property value is too large (error 3309)

[sparks]

I have a table in 2003 that has 221 fields defined.
I tried to add another variable and got this error.
I was surprised when it didn't say too many fields defined.

I look at the error description and it says size greater than the
largest permissible size of 2K.

what value does this 2k refer to?

if I do a size on the table it shows 1901.
If I try to size the defined field sizes,, text, byte, long integer I
get 2387 that is over 2k before I try to add anything.

so what is the 2k that I have exceded ?
Is there any way around this?
I need to add 5 more fields to this table.

thanks for any help or info

Jerry

[pietlinden]

sparks wrote:

I have a table in 2003 that has 221 fields defined.
I tried to add another variable and got this error.
I was surprised when it didn't say too many fields defined.

Why do you have 221 fields in a single table?
Is this table describing a single entity? If so, what?

[salad]

sparks wrote:

I have a table in 2003 that has 221 fields defined.
I tried to add another variable and got this error.
I was surprised when it didn't say too many fields defined.

I look at the error description and it says size greater than the
largest permissible size of 2K.

what value does this 2k refer to?

if I do a size on the table it shows 1901.
If I try to size the defined field sizes,, text, byte, long integer I
get 2387 that is over 2k before I try to add anything.

so what is the 2k that I have exceded ?
Is there any way around this?
I need to add 5 more fields to this table.

thanks for any help or info

Jerry

In help, look for Specifications. Why MS used Specifications for it's
naming convention is unknown. Perhaps to keep this info hidden away
from developers. Anyway, here's from the A97 help file on
Specifications - Tables. See which one is causing you the problem
below...hint... second to last.

Table specifications

Attribute Maximum
Number of characters in a table name 64
Number of characters in a field name 64
Number of fields in a table 255
Number of open tables 1,024. The actual number may be less because of
tables open internally by Microsoft Access.
Table size 1 gigabyte
Number of characters in a Text field 255
Number of characters in a Memo field 65,535 when entering data through
the user interface;
1 gigabyte when entering data programmaticall y.
Size of an OLE Object field 1 gigabyte
Number of indexes in a table 32
Number of fields in an index 10
Number of characters in a validation message 255
Number of characters in a validation rule 2,048
Number of characters in a table or field description 255
Number of characters in a record (excluding Memo and OLE Object fields)
2,000
Number of characters in a field property setting 255

[Terry Kreft]

The record size is too big and the number of fields in your table is
ridiculous, I've never come across a properly designed table with anywhere
near this number of fields.
--

Terry Kreft
"sparks" <js******@swbel l.netwrote in message
news:p6******** *************** *********@4ax.c om...

I have a table in 2003 that has 221 fields defined.
I tried to add another variable and got this error.
I was surprised when it didn't say too many fields defined.

I look at the error description and it says size greater than the
largest permissible size of 2K.

what value does this 2k refer to?

if I do a size on the table it shows 1901.
If I try to size the defined field sizes,, text, byte, long integer I
get 2387 that is over 2k before I try to add anything.

so what is the 2k that I have exceded ?
Is there any way around this?
I need to add 5 more fields to this table.

thanks for any help or info

Jerry

[sparks]

Thank you VERY MUCH for pointing me to specifications.
I tried looking up the error and chrs in a record.
This makes a lot more since..

the one page they are doing is out of 10 pages of true and false
questions...
Some of the pages have 200+ questions

of course they refuse to redo the pages and the statisticians cry when
they have to import multible tables. WHY they might have to do a
transpose or something...who ooooooo

These forms are designed by doctors and they are never
wrong...remembe r that above all else
its GOD, doctor, Jesus in that order LOL

and they can't see the problem in

a h
b i
c j

------page break (WITH 4 INCHES OF BLANK SPACE ON THE BOTTOM)------

d k
e l

(etc)

I need to remember its monday and get back to work :)



On Sat, 29 Jul 2006 18:04:23 GMT, salad <oi*@vinegar.co mwrote:

>sparks wrote:

>I have a table in 2003 that has 221 fields defined.
I tried to add another variable and got this error.
I was surprised when it didn't say too many fields defined.

I look at the error description and it says size greater than the
largest permissible size of 2K.

what value does this 2k refer to?

if I do a size on the table it shows 1901.
If I try to size the defined field sizes,, text, byte, long integer I
get 2387 that is over 2k before I try to add anything.

so what is the 2k that I have exceded ?
Is there any way around this?
I need to add 5 more fields to this table.

thanks for any help or info

Jerry

In help, look for Specifications. Why MS used Specifications for it's
naming convention is unknown. Perhaps to keep this info hidden away
from developers. Anyway, here's from the A97 help file on
Specificatio ns - Tables. See which one is causing you the problem
below...hint.. .second to last.

Table specifications

Attribute Maximum
Number of characters in a table name 64
Number of characters in a field name 64
Number of fields in a table 255
Number of open tables 1,024. The actual number may be less because of
tables open internally by Microsoft Access.
Table size 1 gigabyte
Number of characters in a Text field 255
Number of characters in a Memo field 65,535 when entering data through
the user interface;
1 gigabyte when entering data programmaticall y.
Size of an OLE Object field 1 gigabyte
Number of indexes in a table 32
Number of fields in an index 10
Number of characters in a validation message 255
Number of characters in a validation rule 2,048
Number of characters in a table or field description 255
Number of characters in a record (excluding Memo and OLE Object fields)
2,000
Number of characters in a field property setting 255

[Terry Kreft]

Yes, I find it worrying that I regard most of the doctors I have ever met as
a) Arrogant to the point of requiring a good slap round the back of the
head
b) Stupid (also, to the point of requiring a good slap round the back of
the head)
--

Terry Kreft
"sparks" <js******@swbel l.netwrote in message
news:87******** *************** *********@4ax.c om...

Thank you VERY MUCH for pointing me to specifications.
I tried looking up the error and chrs in a record.
This makes a lot more since..

the one page they are doing is out of 10 pages of true and false
questions...
Some of the pages have 200+ questions

of course they refuse to redo the pages and the statisticians cry when
they have to import multible tables. WHY they might have to do a
transpose or something...who ooooooo

These forms are designed by doctors and they are never
wrong...remembe r that above all else
its GOD, doctor, Jesus in that order LOL

and they can't see the problem in

a h
b i
c j

------page break (WITH 4 INCHES OF BLANK SPACE ON THE BOTTOM)------

d k
e l

(etc)

I need to remember its monday and get back to work :)



On Sat, 29 Jul 2006 18:04:23 GMT, salad <oi*@vinegar.co mwrote:

sparks wrote:

I have a table in 2003 that has 221 fields defined.
I tried to add another variable and got this error.
I was surprised when it didn't say too many fields defined.

I look at the error description and it says size greater than the
largest permissible size of 2K.

what value does this 2k refer to?

if I do a size on the table it shows 1901.
If I try to size the defined field sizes,, text, byte, long integer I
get 2387 that is over 2k before I try to add anything.

so what is the 2k that I have exceded ?
Is there any way around this?
I need to add 5 more fields to this table.

thanks for any help or info

Jerry

In help, look for Specifications. Why MS used Specifications for it's
naming convention is unknown. Perhaps to keep this info hidden away
from developers. Anyway, here's from the A97 help file on
Specifications - Tables. See which one is causing you the problem
below...hint... second to last.

Table specifications

Attribute Maximum
Number of characters in a table name 64
Number of characters in a field name 64
Number of fields in a table 255
Number of open tables 1,024. The actual number may be less because of
tables open internally by Microsoft Access.
Table size 1 gigabyte
Number of characters in a Text field 255
Number of characters in a Memo field 65,535 when entering data through
the user interface;
1 gigabyte when entering data programmaticall y.
Size of an OLE Object field 1 gigabyte
Number of indexes in a table 32
Number of fields in an index 10
Number of characters in a validation message 255
Number of characters in a validation rule 2,048
Number of characters in a table or field description 255
Number of characters in a record (excluding Memo and OLE Object fields)
2,000
Number of characters in a field property setting 255

[David W. Fenton]

sparks <js******@swbel l.netwrote in
news:87******** *************** *********@4ax.c om:

These forms are designed by doctors and they are never
wrong...remembe r that above all else
its GOD, doctor, Jesus in that order

Huh. The doctors I worked with would have put God in 2nd place.

--
David W. Fenton http://www.dfenton.com/
usenet at dfenton dot com http://www.dfenton.com/DFA/

[salad]

sparks wrote:

Thank you VERY MUCH for pointing me to specifications.
I tried looking up the error and chrs in a record.
This makes a lot more since..

\
You're welcome. The help topic does seem to be hidden. It would have
been nice if MS put that help topic in the errors section, tables,
forms, etc too.

[sparks]

Oh we have one doctor here that has a new license plate

IAMGD

On Sat, 29 Jul 2006 22:26:11 +0100, "Terry Kreft"
<te*********@mp s.co.ukwrote:

>The record size is too big and the number of fields in your table is
ridiculous, I've never come across a properly designed table with anywhere
near this number of fields.

[Terry Kreft]

I'm not at all surprised.

BTW may I say that, now that I am aware that you are working with, if that's
the right word, doctors, that any harshness or judgemental tone in my OP I
now realise to be entirely unreasonable. You have my sympathies and may
your pain be shortlived.
--

Terry Kreft
"sparks" <js******@swbel l.netwrote in message
news:q1******** *************** *********@4ax.c om...

Oh we have one doctor here that has a new license plate

IAMGD

On Sat, 29 Jul 2006 22:26:11 +0100, "Terry Kreft"
<te*********@mp s.co.ukwrote:

The record size is too big and the number of fields in your table is
ridiculous, I've never come across a properly designed table with

anywhere

near this number of fields.