Comment to the Microsoft Access world

[ipellew]

Hi;

I 'e been developing a little application based on MS Access (I am
usually in Informix) and have to say the Web is full of sites that
offer little in the way of help.

I have to say that this forum has been the only place I can find help,
Usually sharp and to the point. As I would expect.

The Access web ring just seems full of, well, advertising.
The Microsoft Access pages are just hard work to get what one wants.
So where is the definitive reference?

You guys here offering advice and help deserve a medal.
Mind it takes effort to get at how to do something!
EG, how do you view debug print? Ya ya I know now.

Regards
Ian

[Thelma Lubkin]

ip*****@pipemed ia.co.uk wrote:
: The Microsoft Access pages are just hard work to get what one wants.
: So where is the definitive reference?

: You guys here offering advice and help deserve a medal.

This newsgroup is an amazing resource, and it comes without the
insults heaped on non-experts that many other tech-groups delight in.

For me the other 'definitive resource' has been google. I have managed
to get a lot of help from the Microsoft Help pages, but I usually have
to find the relevant page by asking google, not the Microsoft search
facility.

I've also found a lot of valuable information on websites of
some of the regulars here: e.g. google gets me to Allen Browne's
site again and again--thank you, Allen Browne.

--thelma
: Regards
: Ian

[Randy Harris]

* Thelma Lubkin:

ip*****@pipemed ia.co.uk wrote:
: The Microsoft Access pages are just hard work to get what one wants.
: So where is the definitive reference?

: You guys here offering advice and help deserve a medal.

This newsgroup is an amazing resource, and it comes without the
insults heaped on non-experts that many other tech-groups delight in.

For me the other 'definitive resource' has been google. I have managed
to get a lot of help from the Microsoft Help pages, but I usually have
to find the relevant page by asking google, not the Microsoft search
facility.

I've also found a lot of valuable information on websites of
some of the regulars here: e.g. google gets me to Allen Browne's
site again and again--thank you, Allen Browne.

--thelma
: Regards
: Ian

Wow Thelma, you read my mind. You've expressed my sentiments with
precision. I've been hanging around here for years, learning much, not
only from answers to my own questions but those of others. It's truly
and incredible resource. With rare exception there is none of the
condescension that seems to be required, both of, and by, the digerati
in most public newsgroups.

I too have advised others on numerous occasions not to waste their time
attempting to search the Microsoft site for answers, google does a far
superior job of that.

--
Randy Harris
tech at promail dot com
I'm pretty sure I know everything that I can remember.

[Larry Linson]

<ip*****@pipeme dia.co.ukwrote

I have to say that this forum has been
the only place I can find help, usually
sharp and to the point. As I would expect.

At the free news server news.microsoft. com, you'll find several
Microsoft-sponsored newsgroups with very good content -- much of which is
from people who also participate here. Those newsgroups are also accessible
from the links you'll find at http://office.microsoft.com.

The Access web ring just seems full of,
well, advertising.

I gave up on the webring years ago when a couple of sites figured how to
prevent you from leaving once you reached their site... there used to be
some good help and examples, but it was always a matter of "scrolling"
through sites until you found something of interest and that might take a
long, long time.

The Microsoft Access . . . pages are just hard
work to get what one wants. So where is the
definitive reference?

At Microsoft, I find good information at the "Office Online" site,
http://office.microsoft.com, including good beginner-to-intermediate online
training courses, and "templates. " If you can guess the right search words,
the Knowledge Base at http://support.microsoft.com is useful, but some
prefer using Google to search over the Knowledge Base search.

A good starting point for Access information and links is the FAQ for this
newsgroup at http://www.mvps.org/access. Tony Toews'
http://www.granite.ab.ca/accsmstr.htm, Jeff Conrad's
http://home.bendbroadband.com/conrad...essjunkie.html, Allen
Browne's http://allenbrowne.com/tips.html, Albert Kallal's
http://www.members.shaw.ca/AlbertKallal, and many other sites by
participants here are full of good, useful information (and I've left out
many that I use frequently... no slight intended).

You guys here offering advice and help deserve a medal.
Mind it takes effort to get at how to do something!
EG, how do you view debug print? Ya ya I know now.

I'm glad you find this newsgroup useful, and hope my suggestions lead you to
other good information.

Larry Linson
Microsoft Access MVP