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TC
I'd like to open a discussion about the state of the industry. For the
past year, I've been unable to find competent Access developers
available for hire. I'm worried about that.

I think there's great demand right now, and that's keeping the good
developers busy, but that's not enough to explain the situation.
Whenever I post an Access job, I get lots of responses from .NET
developers, back-end database people, and web developers. They all have
the attitude that "I don't really do Access application development,
but Access is easy, so I can handle your job." (No!) The message I'm
getting is that people are choosing to build their skills in .NET, in
back-end database work, and in web development, even though the market
is well-served in those fields, but they aren't building their skills
in Access fast enough to keep up with the demand.

If that is indeed what is happening, I can't find a good explanation
why. Sure, Access has a lightweight reputation, and people don't see it
as a career-maker -- but that has always been the case, yet somehow
there have always been plenty of Access developers in the past. What
has changed now? I can't help but wonder if Access's star has faded to
the point where job seekers eschew it as old technology. That would be
a shame, because I think it will be a very long time before Access
loses its market niche.

Anyway, those are my comments. I wonder if other Access professionals
have made similar (or conflicting) observations.
-TC

Jan 19 '06
57 3790
rkc
Jack Withenshaw wrote:
Lyle,
Many of your postings are cryptic or weird and your sense of humour and
political leanings are hard to understand. Sometimes, I guess, you post
after a drink or two and don't find your own postings so funny in the
morning. However, part of what you say here rings sad but true.


Which part?
Jan 20 '06 #11
rkc
Lyle Fairfield wrote:
Where did Dev, Keri, Pete, Rebecca, Dimitri, Clive, John, Radu, Gary,
George, Chris, Paul, Vanderghast go?


They've all moved to Greece and are living with the gods on Mt. Olympus.
Their brilliance was blinding ordinary people.

Jan 20 '06 #12
Despite the malice you might have recently read in the newsgroups about me,
I am a very good Access developer. Over the last few years, I have
extensively provided help and support in the newsgroups. On a professional
level, I have taught numerous courses in Access, Excel and Word. Currently,
I am in business to provide customers a resource for help with Access, Excel
and Word. I strive to see that my customers are well satisfied and my fees
are very reasonable. I have provided help to business clients and also over
1100 Access users who came to me from seeing my name in the newsgroups. You
can read some of the comments I have gotten from business clients and Access
users below my signature line.
--
PC Datasheet
Your Resource For Help With Access, Excel And Word Applications
Over 1100 users have come from the newsgroups requesting help.
re******@pcdata sheet.com

Here are some comments made by customers I Helped ---

"Steve demonstrated creativity, efficiency and professionalism of the
highest standard. His database programming expertise was invaluable
to us. Steve was a pleasure to work with and displayed a
team-oriented approach to work."
Geordie -- Director of Information Services.

"Wow. This is nice. Very nice. This should help us immensely! Thank you
so much for your help."
Kathy -- Educational Manager at a large Medical Center

"I'm having a real hard time simplifying this stuff for myself and I'm
pleading with my boss to take a loan or whatever we have to do
to get you more hours to handle this properly. I love working with
your guidance. It's almost as if I need you on the phone for every little
thing that pops into my
mind."
John --- IT Manager

".....From that point, Steve, with my input, laid out the overall design and
the steps towards the implementation of the final product which I
delivered to my client just last week. Now, my client wants me to write
additional database systems for them, thanks to Steve who made me
a hero!!"
Jim --- Developer

"Steve is an unique find."
Confidential Customer
And here are some comments made by people from the newsgroups that came to
me and paid me to help them ---

I like it a lot. It does exactly what I want, very good job. Thankyou and I
repeat GOOD JOB

OK, Perfect, well done. See you when I need something more.

Your very helpful email speaks volumes about your level of professionalism .
I will definitely keep your contact information for anyone who needs these
types of services - we very frequently get local businesses
contacting us looking for exactly the type of service you provide.

One word: Wow. I had no clue it could be such an "aesthetica lly pleasing"
interface. I figured it'd just be a big chart. That's amazing. You've really
helped me cause out a lot, and you've done a tremendous job with this demo.
With this, I can more easily explain how a database could help us out.

Thanks for looking ahead. That is the reason I really feel safe working with
you. couple of the programmers who do work for me, need to be checked to
told to do every step of the way. With you, I just need to tell you what I
need to be done, and you will think ahead of all the problems that might
occur in the process.


"TC" <go*********@ya hoo.com> wrote in message
news:11******** **************@ g47g2000cwa.goo glegroups.com.. .
I'd like to open a discussion about the state of the industry. For the
past year, I've been unable to find competent Access developers
available for hire. I'm worried about that.

I think there's great demand right now, and that's keeping the good
developers busy, but that's not enough to explain the situation.
Whenever I post an Access job, I get lots of responses from .NET
developers, back-end database people, and web developers. They all have
the attitude that "I don't really do Access application development,
but Access is easy, so I can handle your job." (No!) The message I'm
getting is that people are choosing to build their skills in .NET, in
back-end database work, and in web development, even though the market
is well-served in those fields, but they aren't building their skills
in Access fast enough to keep up with the demand.

If that is indeed what is happening, I can't find a good explanation
why. Sure, Access has a lightweight reputation, and people don't see it
as a career-maker -- but that has always been the case, yet somehow
there have always been plenty of Access developers in the past. What
has changed now? I can't help but wonder if Access's star has faded to
the point where job seekers eschew it as old technology. That would be
a shame, because I think it will be a very long time before Access
loses its market niche.

Anyway, those are my comments. I wonder if other Access professionals
have made similar (or conflicting) observations.
-TC

Jan 20 '06 #13

Jack Withenshaw wrote:
Lyle,
... Sometimes, I guess, you post after a drink or two ....


Are you the guy up on the hill with the binoculars?

Jan 20 '06 #14
BB
Like PeteCresswell above, I'm an Access developer who wouldn't mind
helping you out. I'm a freelancer working from my home and have been
working with Access from version 1.0. I also do VB, SQL Server, MySQL,
PHP, etc. and never went to .NET because my clients didn't see the
benefit (and frankly, neither did I).

Anyway, are you looking for full-timers or can I help you from the
comfort of my kitchen table and slippers?

Jan 20 '06 #15
Ha ... you need to learn the art of working full time in your slippers and a
comfy pair of sweats like me.

Linda

"BB" <bb***@hotmail. com> wrote in message
news:11******** **************@ g47g2000cwa.goo glegroups.com.. .
Like PeteCresswell above, I'm an Access developer who wouldn't mind
helping you out. I'm a freelancer working from my home and have been
working with Access from version 1.0. I also do VB, SQL Server, MySQL,
PHP, etc. and never went to .NET because my clients didn't see the
benefit (and frankly, neither did I).

Anyway, are you looking for full-timers or can I help you from the
comfort of my kitchen table and slippers?

Jan 20 '06 #16
On 19 Jan 2006 11:30:46 -0800, "TC" <go*********@ya hoo.com> wrote:

Our company is in constant hiring mode. Access development is 25-50%
of our Custom Software division. We can still find them, but they are
indeed less available than a few years back. My screener easily goes
through a hundred resumes only to forward 5 to me. 1 of those makes it
to an interview.
I think many developers don't want to miss out on the .Net wave and
become dinosaurs.
As noted by others we clean up a lot of applications started by
good-willing amateurs.

-Tom.

I'd like to open a discussion about the state of the industry. For the
past year, I've been unable to find competent Access developers
available for hire. I'm worried about that.

I think there's great demand right now, and that's keeping the good
developers busy, but that's not enough to explain the situation.
Whenever I post an Access job, I get lots of responses from .NET
developers, back-end database people, and web developers. They all have
the attitude that "I don't really do Access application development,
but Access is easy, so I can handle your job." (No!) The message I'm
getting is that people are choosing to build their skills in .NET, in
back-end database work, and in web development, even though the market
is well-served in those fields, but they aren't building their skills
in Access fast enough to keep up with the demand.

If that is indeed what is happening, I can't find a good explanation
why. Sure, Access has a lightweight reputation, and people don't see it
as a career-maker -- but that has always been the case, yet somehow
there have always been plenty of Access developers in the past. What
has changed now? I can't help but wonder if Access's star has faded to
the point where job seekers eschew it as old technology. That would be
a shame, because I think it will be a very long time before Access
loses its market niche.

Anyway, those are my comments. I wonder if other Access professionals
have made similar (or conflicting) observations.
-TC


Jan 20 '06 #17
TC
I'm pleased to see so many thoughtful responses to my post. I must say,
however, that you guys haven't given me much reason for optimism.

Tom, I think I need to adopt a screening process like yours. Do you use
an employment agency?
-TC

Jan 20 '06 #18

"PC Datasheet" <no****@nospam. spam> schreef in bericht news:Iz******** ***********@new sread1.news.atl .earthlink.net. ..
--
PC Datasheet
Your Resource For Help With Access, Excel And Word Applications
Over 1100 users have come from the newsgroups requesting help.
re******@pcdata sheet.com

<snipped resume>
Before you believe all the nonsense that he wrote here look at:
http://home.tiscali.nl/arracom/whoissteve.html (updated)

Arno R
Jan 20 '06 #19
"TC" <go*********@ya hoo.com> wrote in message
news:11******** **************@ g47g2000cwa.goo glegroups.com.. .
I'd like to open a discussion about the state of the industry. For the
past year, I've been unable to find competent Access developers
available for hire. I'm worried about that.


I have the opposite problem. There isn't much in the way of freelance in my
neck of the woods (NW England), if it wasn't for my salaried job I'd starve
:o)

I have done the occasional freelance job but it's always been done remotely
via the web.

Keith.
www.keithwilby.com
Jan 20 '06 #20

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