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Yes, there are some *really* exciting developments taking place in the next
Access.
Erik mentions the size of the Access dev team, and promises more info about
developments with the JET engine.
Really early days yet, with many months before the next version is out, but
Microsoft has been listening to user feedback, and will be providing some of
the most asked for features, including the ability to create PDFs out of
Access.
--
Allen Browne - Microsoft MVP. Perth, Western Australia.
Tips for Access users - http://allenbrowne.com/tips.html
Reply to group, rather than allenbrowne at mvps dot org.
"AnandaSim" <An*******@gmai l.com> wrote in message
news:11******** **************@ z14g2000cwz.goo glegroups.com.. . I just had a google through this NG but have not seen mention of Erik
Rucker's blog entry and the new Jet:
http://blogs.msdn.com/access/archive...05/477549.aspx
mentioned by Mike Gunderloy
http://www.larkware.com/dg4/TheDailyGrind726.html
Aside from the Sharepoint feature extension, amazing news.
Ananda
Hi Allen,
BTW, use some of your tips all the time...
Allen Browne wrote: Yes, there are some *really* exciting developments taking place in the next
Access.
Erik mentions the size of the Access dev team, and promises more info about
developments with the JET engine.
He makes the point that the team has increased seven fold. I joke that
the team is now seven strong. <grin>
Really early days yet, with many months before the next version is out, but
Microsoft has been listening to user feedback, and will be providing some of
the most asked for features, including the ability to create PDFs out of
Access.
I am a little blasé with adding feature width (Data Access Pages,
SharePoint extensions etc...) and more interested in feature depth
(programmable pdf printing, object dependencies, form and report design
undo).
If Jet can now grow and/or we can see some lean towards LINQ http://msdn.microsoft.com/netframework/future/linq/
and encapsulation of the XML apps (RSS, XML databases, ADO.NET
structures) that would be good.
But how will the solve the VBA vs COM dilemma? I guess Office 12 is
still COM, so how do they nurture VBA or replace it with .NET tools?
We live in exciting times!
Ananda http://accesscoach.wikispaces.org/Microsoft+Access
As Allen says, you can expect some exciting changes.
I think you'll find that the seven-fold increased development team totals
more than seven. <GRIN>
You can expect VBA to be around for a while, but that doesn't rule out some
Dot Net interaction (see the current Visual Studio Tools for Office support
for VB.NET and C# with Word and Excel).
I will have to be convinced that LINQ is an improvement over SQL for
databases. As I understand it, if you have the need, it allows database-like
access to other entities besides databases. Frankly, I have never had such a
need in any Access application on which I worked.
Larry Linson
Microsoft Access MVP
hey screw you guys
ACCESS ALREADY WENT THROUGH THE AMAZING CHANGES THAT YOU ARE WAITING
FOR.
IT IS CALLED 'ACCESS DATA PROJECTS' and 'DATA ACCESS PAGES'. It came
out with offfice 2000; but it really became an awesome product with the
release of Access XP.
you closed-minded MVPs should go and take a long walk off of a short
pier.
I'm sorry that you MVPs _ARENT SMART ENOUGH_ to learn ADP and DAP.
get over it. The future was 5 years ago!!!!
aa*********@gma il.com wrote: hey screw you guys
ACCESS ALREADY WENT THROUGH THE AMAZING CHANGES THAT YOU ARE WAITING
FOR.
IT IS CALLED 'ACCESS DATA PROJECTS' and 'DATA ACCESS PAGES'. It came
out with offfice 2000; but it really became an awesome product with the
release of Access XP.
you closed-minded MVPs should go and take a long walk off of a short
pier.
I'm sorry that you MVPs _ARENT SMART ENOUGH_ to learn ADP and DAP.
get over it. The future was 5 years ago!!!!
But DAPs don't work for anything other than a LAN based web sit. If you
don't think so, go out and find a web host that will allow DAPs.
Bob
He's also flung dung at the wrong people. Neither of the MVPs expressed
disenchantment with ADPs and DAPs. I did and I'm not an MVP.
Ananda
Bob Alston wrote: But DAPs don't work for anything other than a LAN based web sit. If you
don't think so, go out and find a web host that will allow DAPs.
Bob
Hi Larry,
Larry Linson wrote: I think you'll find that the seven-fold increased development team totals
more than seven. <GRIN>
Ok, I'll bite. How many are there? Could we expect to see improvements
to the venerable Expression Builder and have dual fonts - one for the
Design View and one for the SQL View of the Query Design.
You can expect VBA to be around for a while, but that doesn't rule out some
Dot Net interaction (see the current Visual Studio Tools for Office support
for VB.NET and C# with Word and Excel).
Yes, all excited about the dot net interaction. But we need practice and
VSTO is AFAIK not free but an extra cost item to Office?
I will have to be convinced that LINQ is an improvement over SQL for
databases. As I understand it, if you have the need, it allows database-like
access to other entities besides databases. Frankly, I have never had such a
need in any Access application on which I worked.
Not in that regard - although it would be nice. I was impressed that
instead of
strSQL="select * from customers"
db.execute strSQL
in which strSQL is a string and therefore unverifiable,
LINQ to me looks like it can be:
Dim dbNorthwind as Database
Dim tblCustomer as Table
Dim rstCustomers as Recordset
set dbNorthwind = currentDB
set tblCustomer = Northwind.Table
set rstCustomers = SELECT * FROM tblCustomer
well, this is all made up but you get what I mean - instead of using
strings to encapsulate SQL, you instantiate LINQ objects and use an SQL
like syntax to bind resultsets - you aren't writing SQL, you're writing
SQL like syntax.
And the IDE because it knows system and user defined objects, will parse
and verify your syntax.
Unless of course, I completely missed Anders H.'s point - he is such a
brain.
Ananda
"Ananda Sim" wrote He's also flung dung at the wrong people.
Neither of the MVPs expressed
disenchantment with ADPs and DAPs.
I did and I'm not an MVP.
Poor aaron, he drank the Kool-Aid 'way too soon. He wholeheartedly swallowed
the marketing hype on features that never proved their worth. But, clearly,
anyone who makes the grandiose claims he does can not possibly have used
those features to any significant extent.
Without violating my non-disclosure agreement, I think I can safely say he
is going to be disappointed if he is hoping for ADP and DAP to be "the
Access of the future". Lyle Fairfield was initially a strong supporter of
ADP, but has eloquently described ADPs fatal shortcoming, right here in this
newsgroup -- apparently aaron hasn't read Lyle's posts. Or, perhaps data
security is not an issue for aaron.
Larry Linson
Microsoft Access MVP
"Allen Browne" <Al*********@Se eSig.Invalid> wrote in
news:43******** *************** @per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au : Really early days yet, with many months before the next version is
out, but Microsoft has been listening to user feedback, and will
be providing some of the most asked for features, including the
ability to create PDFs out of Access.
I saw that in the Word 12 preview information, too. But I wonder if
that means that Microsoft is abandoning their competitor to PDF?
That would be good news if it's the case.
The one thing I miss in Erik Rucker's post is a mentione of a
commitment to the developer side of things, especially the developer
working with small businesses. Access has de-emphasized that market
since the introduction of A2K, which seemed to me to be very
enterprise-oriented, with all the new features (except for those in
Jet 4 itself) directed towards interoperabilit y with SQL Server.
--
David W. Fenton http://www.bway.net/~dfenton
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