Who controls improvements in Access

[Salad]

I've always thought that the talking heads, the people that write Access
mags, the "gurus" that tout themselves as being the true masters of
Access tell MS what they want.

How does a lowly real-world developer, not some talking head pundit
touter, ever get MS to hear them?

Years ago they had something like a Wishlist, but I've always thought
that's pretty much a circular file.

[rkc]

Tony Toews wrote:

<ji********@com pumarc.com> wrote in message
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In microsoft.publi c.access I read some posts by Sharkbyte and thought,
"His writing style looks familiar." I noticed Sharkbyte was
knowledgeab le enough that he/she has probably posted to
comp.database s.ms-access. I did a usage study based on somewhat unique
phrases found in his/her posts like "I do know" and "I have found that"
using Google with double quotes around the search string.

<shrug>
Tony

Agreed.

[David W. Fenton]

ji********@comp umarc.com wrote in
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In microsoft.publi c.access I read some posts by Sharkbyte and
thought, "His writing style looks familiar." I noticed Sharkbyte
was knowledgeable enough that he/she has probably posted to
comp.databases. ms-access. I did a usage study based on somewhat
unique phrases found in his/her posts like "I do know" and "I have
found that" using Google with double quotes around the search
string. I chose about ten such phrases and believe it or not,
David W. Fenton's correlation was three times higher than anyone
else's; he had matched every single one of the ten phrases exactly
somewhere in comp.databases. ms-access. I realize this method does
not prove the identity of Sharkbyte (perhaps Sharkbyte was
strongly influenced by the language in David's posts), but the
correlation was somewhat of a surprise. Also, the volume of
David's posts could be a contributing factor. As a tangent to
that study I noticed that Larry Linson, who has been a strong
contributor to this group for many, many years, and Don Mellon,
who provides comic relief, share many of the same language
ideosyncrasies even when Larry is not being impersonated. I don't
know what to make of all this, especially since about five other
personae correlated well with these two but not as strongly.
Maybe "I" just had too much time on my hands. But the possibility
of Larry and Don being the same person would put this particular
thread in an interesting light. Also note that there will never
be repercussions when you imitate yourself :-). If any of these
hypotheses are correct (and that's all that they are), I suspect
the personae will be more careful in the future. I should also
check to see if the personae ganged up on someone, causing someone
to be surrounded and outgunned by one person

On the issue of identity, examine the headers of Sharkbyte's posts
and you'll see they have nothing in common with mine.

Likewise, view the entire Google archive of all my posts in Usenet,
ever, and you'll see I've always signed my full name, in every forum
I've every posted.

If the correlation routine you're using doesn't examine these
factors, then it's not very smart.

I don't need to do any correlations to recognize someone who is
enough like Don Mellon to deserve being plonked.

<PLONK>

--
David W. Fenton http://www.bway.net/~dfenton
dfenton at bway dot net http://www.bway.net/~dfassoc

[Stephen Lebans]

David I thought this post was produced by Don which is why I did not
bother to respond. Whenever I see TeraNews in the Message header of this
type of post I just assume it is Don.

I was hoping James himself would respond in correction. Perhaps he
missed this thread as the post seems to be quite out of character for
James.

--

Stephen Lebans
http://www.lebans.com
Access Code, Tips and Tricks
Please respond only to the newsgroups so everyone can benefit.
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ji********@comp umarc.com wrote in
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I don't need to do any correlations to recognize someone who is
enough like Don Mellon to deserve being plonked.

<PLONK>

--
David W. Fenton http://www.bway.net/~dfenton
dfenton at bway dot net http://www.bway.net/~dfassoc

[jimfortune]

Stephen Lebans wrote:

I was hoping James himself would respond in correction. Perhaps he
missed this thread as the post seems to be quite out of character for
James.

Stephen, I thank you for your polite words. Although out of character,
the post was, alas, mine. I apologize for any offense taken by David
or others from it. Like David, I've always signed and used only my own
name. So far, no one has ever impersonated me that I am aware of. It
is the first time anyone has ever plonked me though. I guess I
deserved it. It was still quite a surprise to see so many of
Sharkbyte's phrases used by David. I was simply trying to get a handle
on who is doing what. The jokesters in this NG, personally, have been
quite an annoyance. Plus, I take extra care to indulge those who have
made positive contributions to this NG. I feel like I have also made
some positive contributions and thank those that have helped to make
this NG such a great place.

James A. Fortune

[Larry Linson]

<ji********@com pumarc.com> wrote

. . . As a tangent to that study I noticed
that Larry Linson, who has been a strong
contributor to this group for many, many
years, and Don Mellon, who provides
comic relief, share many of the same language
ideosyncrasies even when Larry is not
being impersonated.

It is true that if you Google a bit, you'll find that I've been posting to
this newsgroup since its creation. Because I posted from several different
domains over the years, you'll find I have used some different userids, but
none not identifiable to me.

I'm flattered that anyone, even Don P Mellon, might be sufficiently
impressed to adopt my language patterns, but I have not impersonated him. I
don't know if he is still listed there, but a few years back, a People
Search at Yahoo showed a Don P Mellon and a Marsha Mellon in Ennis, Montana,
an area served by the apparently-valid e-mail domain Don used in his posts.
Perhaps all those posts were someone else impersonating _an innocent party
in Ennis_?

But, alas, what a disappointment: I thought my style was "inimitable ".
<GRUMBLE>

Larry Linson