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Well, it seems that Microsoft, or whatever powers that be have decided it's
time for us to have yet another standard keyboard layout change.

I think I see that the point of this one was to reduce the space occupied by
the keys on the right, so the reach to the mouse is not so bad, but the way
they chose to do it?

Ah - I see. Since most of what we type will simply be deleted at some point,
let's make sure the Delete key is big and easy to find with the fingers.
Jumping to the end of the current line of text, on the other hand? Why?
Those characters will probably just get deleted soon anyway. In fact, I don't
know why they didn't just use up the rest of the space allocated to that pesky
space bar that they already took so much of away for those Windows keys no one
ever uses. After all, all the spaces will probably get deleted, too. The
space key could be moved up there where the tilde used to go.
Nov 12 '05 #1
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Having a baad day, Steve?
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NLS Collation/Locale/Keyboard Development
Globalization Infrastructure and Font Technologies

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"Steve Jorgensen" <no****@nospam. nospam> wrote in message
news:52******** *************** *********@4ax.c om...
Well, it seems that Microsoft, or whatever powers that be have decided it's time for us to have yet another standard keyboard layout change.

I think I see that the point of this one was to reduce the space occupied by the keys on the right, so the reach to the mouse is not so bad, but the way they chose to do it?

Ah - I see. Since most of what we type will simply be deleted at some point, let's make sure the Delete key is big and easy to find with the fingers.
Jumping to the end of the current line of text, on the other hand? Why?
Those characters will probably just get deleted soon anyway. In fact, I don't know why they didn't just use up the rest of the space allocated to that pesky space bar that they already took so much of away for those Windows keys no one ever uses. After all, all the spaces will probably get deleted, too. The
space key could be moved up there where the tilde used to go.

Nov 12 '05 #2
rkc

"Steve Jorgensen" <no****@nospam. nospam> wrote in message
news:52******** *************** *********@4ax.c om...
Well, it seems that Microsoft, or whatever powers that be have decided it's time for us to have yet another standard keyboard layout change.


Battle the evil giant. Buy Logitech.
Nov 12 '05 #3
Steve, I will admit to the same frustration.

I find the End key absolutely vital in VBA, and I locate it without looking
because it's immediately above the up arrow key. The newer keyboards do have
a big Delete key right in that spot, and it's a frustration - unnecessary
and counterproducti ve - working across machines with different keyboard
layouts.

--
Allen Browne - Microsoft MVP. Perth, Western Australia.
Tips for Access users - http://allenbrowne.com/tips.html
Reply to group, rather than allenbrowne at mvps dot org.

"Steve Jorgensen" <no****@nospam. nospam> wrote in message
news:52******** *************** *********@4ax.c om...
Well, it seems that Microsoft, or whatever powers that be have decided it's time for us to have yet another standard keyboard layout change.

I think I see that the point of this one was to reduce the space occupied by the keys on the right, so the reach to the mouse is not so bad, but the way they chose to do it?

Ah - I see. Since most of what we type will simply be deleted at some point, let's make sure the Delete key is big and easy to find with the fingers.
Jumping to the end of the current line of text, on the other hand? Why?
Those characters will probably just get deleted soon anyway. In fact, I don't know why they didn't just use up the rest of the space allocated to that pesky space bar that they already took so much of away for those Windows keys no one ever uses. After all, all the spaces will probably get deleted, too. The
space key could be moved up there where the tilde used to go.

Nov 12 '05 #4
No. I'm perfectly capable of bitching about something stupid without being in
a bad mood <g>.

On Sun, 9 Nov 2003 20:15:40 -0800, "Michael \(michka\) Kaplan [MS]"
<mi*****@online .microsoft.com> wrote:
Having a baad day, Steve?


Nov 12 '05 #5
no****@nospam.n ospam (Steve Jorgensen) wrote in
<52************ *************** *****@4ax.com>:
Well, it seems that Microsoft, or whatever powers that be have
decided it's time for us to have yet another standard keyboard
layout change.

I think I see that the point of this one was to reduce the space
occupied by the keys on the right, so the reach to the mouse is
not so bad, but the way they chose to do it?

Ah - I see. Since most of what we type will simply be deleted at
some point, let's make sure the Delete key is big and easy to find
with the fingers. Jumping to the end of the current line of text,
on the other hand? Why? Those characters will probably just get
deleted soon anyway. In fact, I don't know why they didn't just
use up the rest of the space allocated to that pesky space bar
that they already took so much of away for those Windows keys no
one ever uses. After all, all the spaces will probably get
deleted, too. The space key could be moved up there where the
tilde used to go.


Can you point me to a picture of this keyboard? Otherwise, I have
no idea what you're talking about.

As to the Windows keys next to the space bar, I use them all the
time. Doesn't everyone?

--
David W. Fenton http://www.bway.net/~dfenton
dfenton at bway dot net http://www.bway.net/~dfassoc
Nov 12 '05 #6
"David W. Fenton" <dX********@bwa y.net.invalid> wrote in message
news:94******** *************** ****@24.168.128 .78...
Can you point me to a picture of this keyboard? Otherwise, I have
no idea what you're talking about.


http://www.microsoft.com/hardware/mo...?type=Keyboard

The MultiMedia keyboard has a big Delete key right above the Up arrow.
The Internet keyboard has the layout we've used historically.

--
Allen Browne - Microsoft MVP. Perth, Western Australia.
Tips for Access users - http://allenbrowne.com/tips.html
Reply to group, rather than allenbrowne at mvps dot org.
Nov 12 '05 #7
On Tue, 11 Nov 2003 09:00:24 +0800, "Allen Browne"
<Al*********@Se eSig.Invalid> wrote:
"David W. Fenton" <dX********@bwa y.net.invalid> wrote in message
news:94******* *************** *****@24.168.12 8.78...
Can you point me to a picture of this keyboard? Otherwise, I have
no idea what you're talking about.


http://www.microsoft.com/hardware/mo...?type=Keyboard

The MultiMedia keyboard has a big Delete key right above the Up arrow.
The Internet keyboard has the layout we've used historically.


And every new Dell system I work on at any of myt clients' sites has the new
stupid keyboard layout.
Nov 12 '05 #8
Al*********@See Sig.Invalid (Allen Browne) wrote in
<3f************ **********@free news.iinet.net. au>:
"David W. Fenton" <dX********@bwa y.net.invalid> wrote in message
news:94******* *************** *****@24.168.12 8.78...
Can you point me to a picture of this keyboard? Otherwise, I
have no idea what you're talking about.


http://www.microsoft.com/hardware/mo...oductlist.aspx
?type=Keyboa rd

The MultiMedia keyboard has a big Delete key right above the Up
arrow. The Internet keyboard has the layout we've used
historically .


Ack.

I don't want a keyboard with a different layout or with keys that
launch programs and other garbage.

I just want a plain old keyboard, just like the ones that I find
everywhere. If I become accustomed to typing on a custom keyboard
layout, I'll be unable to function efficiently at other people's
computers.

Keyboards have gotten way out of control, in my opinion. It's
virtually impossible to buy a keyboard without extra keys, for any
amount of money.

--
David W. Fenton http://www.bway.net/~dfenton
dfenton at bway dot net http://www.bway.net/~dfassoc
Nov 12 '05 #9
How are you supposed to play Tomb Raider on it? <g>

--
Michael Hopwood (Phobos)
"Allen Browne" <Al*********@Se eSig.Invalid> wrote in message
news:3f******** **************@ freenews.iinet. net.au...
"David W. Fenton" <dX********@bwa y.net.invalid> wrote in message
news:94******** *************** ****@24.168.128 .78...
Can you point me to a picture of this keyboard? Otherwise, I have
no idea what you're talking about.

http://www.microsoft.com/hardware/mo....aspx?type=Key
board
The MultiMedia keyboard has a big Delete key right above the Up arrow.
The Internet keyboard has the layout we've used historically.

--
Allen Browne - Microsoft MVP. Perth, Western Australia.
Tips for Access users - http://allenbrowne.com/tips.html
Reply to group, rather than allenbrowne at mvps dot org.

Nov 12 '05 #10

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