string that will sort after all strings of Roman letters.

[Academia]

I want a string of characters that will sort after all strings of Roman
letters.

Something that will display using a font like the one this note is written
with.

Is there such a thing?

I tried using a string starting with { because in ASCII it comes after the
letters but that sorts before the letters.

Can you help?
thanks
ps

I tried to state this so I wouldn't get replies about the many cultures,
alphabets, etc.

I'm talking simple English Last names as strings before the special string.

[Cor Ligthert[MVP]]

Hi,

You are not writing in Roman characters so it is in fact impossible to
answer your question in my idea. First try out what are Roman characters and
tell us what you mean. For sure they are not used in the English language.

As well are it not the characters I see in this message. Everyone has his
own font settings which change the way a character is showed.

Roman characters are/were used in Latin. Probably you mean the standard
characters (26) as used in most North/West Europe languages.

Because that you don't want to hear about cultures, is your question the
same as a question like how to eat a Coke but you dont't want to hear about
drinking.

However you can reach your goal. You write as some people who comes from a
country where English is standard spoken however for sure not an
Englishman/woman.

Therefore if you don't want to use cultures convert your characters to bytes
and delete the first bit of that. Then you have real ASCII and can sort it
like that (however there are still more characters in that). If that is not
enough than filter all the bits from the byte that does not fullfil that.
Not that difficult to do, it is the same way as it was done half a century
ago.

Cor

[Andrew Morton]

Academia wrote:

I want a string of characters that will sort after all strings of
Roman letters.

Something that will display using a font like the one this note is
written with.

Is there such a thing?

I tried using a string starting with { because in ASCII it comes
after the letters but that sorts before the letters.

I think you want to see the help for String.CompareO rdinal and perhaps
Array.Sort using a user-supplied IComparer.

Andrew

[Academia]

I looked at that .
Maybe I can ask it differently:
How can I find the numeric values of the various character objects that can
be in the strings I'm using. These strings come from an English US .TXT
file.

I need to find a character that has a bigger value than Thanks "z"

Thanks

"Andrew Morton" <ak*@in-press.co.uk.inv alidwrote in message
news:%2******** ********@TK2MSF TNGP03.phx.gbl. ..

Academia wrote:

>I want a string of characters that will sort after all strings of
Roman letters.

Something that will display using a font like the one this note is
written with.

Is there such a thing?

I tried using a string starting with { because in ASCII it comes
after the letters but that sorts before the letters.

I think you want to see the help for String.CompareO rdinal and perhaps
Array.Sort using a user-supplied IComparer.

Andrew

[Academia]

Maybe I can ask it differently:
How can I find the numeric values of the various character objects that can
be in the strings I'm using. These strings come from an English US .TXT
file.

I need to find a character that has a bigger value than Thanks "z"

Thanks

"Cor Ligthert[MVP]" <no************ @planet.nlwrote in message
news:AE******** *************** ***********@mic rosoft.com...

Hi,

You are not writing in Roman characters so it is in fact impossible to
answer your question in my idea. First try out what are Roman characters
and tell us what you mean. For sure they are not used in the English
language.

As well are it not the characters I see in this message. Everyone has his
own font settings which change the way a character is showed.

Roman characters are/were used in Latin. Probably you mean the standard
characters (26) as used in most North/West Europe languages.

Because that you don't want to hear about cultures, is your question the
same as a question like how to eat a Coke but you dont't want to hear
about drinking.

However you can reach your goal. You write as some people who comes from a
country where English is standard spoken however for sure not an
Englishman/woman.

Therefore if you don't want to use cultures convert your characters to
bytes and delete the first bit of that. Then you have real ASCII and can
sort it like that (however there are still more characters in that). If
that is not enough than filter all the bits from the byte that does not
fullfil that. Not that difficult to do, it is the same way as it was done
half a century ago.

Cor

[Cor Ligthert[MVP]]

Academia.

Those characters are all in the ASCII characterset. You get those by first
filtering the first bit from a to a Byte converted Character.

At the moment MSDN seems down but you find probably all you need in this
search.
(Have a look at ASCII because that is converting to the characters in the
first 127 range)

http://search.msdn.microsoft.com/sea...coding+to+byte

Cor

[Academia]

Well then I'm confused. VS2005 help has ASCII Table of codes and { is 123
(7D) but when the ComboBox sorts the { shows up at the top of the list
instead of the bottom.

I understand that inside the code they are Unicode but don't they sort the
same as ASCII.

Do I have to do as you suggest below some how?
Thanks for the help
"Cor Ligthert[MVP]" <no************ @planet.nlwrote in message
news:D7******** *************** ***********@mic rosoft.com...

Academia.

Those characters are all in the ASCII characterset. You get those by first
filtering the first bit from a to a Byte converted Character.

At the moment MSDN seems down but you find probably all you need in this
search.
(Have a look at ASCII because that is converting to the characters in the
first 127 range)

http://search.msdn.microsoft.com/sea...coding+to+byte

Cor

[Jack Jackson]

By default .NET does not sort strings by ASCII values. There are
various discussions of the different string sort methods on MSDN, here
is one link:
<http://msdn2.microsoft .com/en-us/library/ms973919.aspx>

On Wed, 17 Oct 2007 16:09:39 -0400, "Academia"
<ac************ @a-znet.comwrote:

>Well then I'm confused. VS2005 help has ASCII Table of codes and { is 123
(7D) but when the ComboBox sorts the { shows up at the top of the list
instead of the bottom.

I understand that inside the code they are Unicode but don't they sort the
same as ASCII.

Do I have to do as you suggest below some how?
Thanks for the help
"Cor Ligthert[MVP]" <no************ @planet.nlwrote in message
news:D7******* *************** ************@mi crosoft.com...

>Academia.

Those characters are all in the ASCII characterset. You get those by first
filtering the first bit from a to a Byte converted Character.

At the moment MSDN seems down but you find probably all you need in this
search.
(Have a look at ASCII because that is converting to the characters in the
first 127 range)

http://search.msdn.microsoft.com/sea...coding+to+byte

Cor

[Academia]

I read that once. I'd have to spend sometime to understand it completely but
I don't think I need to know all that.

ASCII would do just fine for what I need.

In the site I saw how to explictly set the StringCompariso n value but not
kow to make the combobox use a given value.

Is there some system wide parameter I can set that would make all sorts
default to StringCompariso n.Ordinal (I believe that is the value I need)?

Thanks for pointing out the site, I'll spend more time studying it ,out of
curiosity, but for my application only ASCII is needed. Or maybe I should
say: only en-us is all I need - I don't understand this enough to know the
difference yet.

Thanks again

"Jack Jackson" <ja********@peb bleridge.comwro te in message
news:pt******** *************** *********@4ax.c om...

By default .NET does not sort strings by ASCII values. There are
various discussions of the different string sort methods on MSDN, here
is one link:
<http://msdn2.microsoft .com/en-us/library/ms973919.aspx>

On Wed, 17 Oct 2007 16:09:39 -0400, "Academia"
<ac************ @a-znet.comwrote:

>>Well then I'm confused. VS2005 help has ASCII Table of codes and { is 123
(7D) but when the ComboBox sorts the { shows up at the top of the list
instead of the bottom.

I understand that inside the code they are Unicode but don't they sort the
same as ASCII.

Do I have to do as you suggest below some how?
Thanks for the help
"Cor Ligthert[MVP]" <no************ @planet.nlwrote in message
news:D7****** *************** *************@m icrosoft.com...

>>Academia.

Those characters are all in the ASCII characterset. You get those by
first
filtering the first bit from a to a Byte converted Character.

At the moment MSDN seems down but you find probably all you need in this
search.
(Have a look at ASCII because that is converting to the characters in
the
first 127 range)

http://search.msdn.microsoft.com/sea...coding+to+byte

Cor

[Academia]

"Cor Ligthert[MVP]" <no************ @planet.nlwrote in message
news:AE******** *************** ***********@mic rosoft.com...

Hi,

You are not writing in Roman characters so it is in fact impossible to
answer your question in my idea. First try out what are Roman characters
and tell us what you mean. For sure they are not used in the English
language.

Is "Latin characters" the correct nomenclature?

Thanks