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New to VB.NET, designing my first form with an MS manual at my side, placing
objects and writing code.

For good reason I just:

SAVED All (!!)
deleted all objects leaving only a grey form,
ran my program to see the result,
then UNDO to get my objects back.

No Undo.
No objects.
Empty form.
No object code.

What - - happened? Does this auto-save when a program is run? If so fine,
but as a backup, I hope. It couldn’t be overwriting my own Save, it just
can’t be.

Been searching 20 minutes, starting to get nervous. Just like to get my work
back. Help appreciated. Thanks!
Jan 27 '07 #1
10 1326
Autosave appears to be an option. On the Tools/Options/ dialog check []
Show all Settings

Under Projects and Solutions "Before building" you have Save all changes set
I'd bet. You might consider changing it to Prompt to Save all Changes.
Alternatively (or additionally) you might not want to delete all the
controls off your form. You can always clone a copy of a file so you never
risk destroying a working version until you see the new one operate
reliably.
"jonigr" <jo****@discuss ions.microsoft. comwrote in message
news:6F******** *************** ***********@mic rosoft.com...
New to VB.NET, designing my first form with an MS manual at my side,
placing
objects and writing code.

For good reason I just:

SAVED All (!!)
deleted all objects leaving only a grey form,
ran my program to see the result,
then UNDO to get my objects back.

No Undo.
No objects.
Empty form.
No object code.

What - - happened? Does this auto-save when a program is run? If so fine,
but as a backup, I hope. It couldn't be overwriting my own Save, it just
can't be.

Been searching 20 minutes, starting to get nervous. Just like to get my
work
back. Help appreciated. Thanks!

Jan 27 '07 #2
Right on Tom, Build & Run “Save changes” seems to be the default, I changed
it right away.

I suspected some controls UNder a TabControl page I made, that’s why I
removed everything. Very confusing for a newbie unable to simply save a
complete “file” (project? Solution?) under a different name while working.

Turns out I did Save As… my *Form* a few times and managed to get an old one
back with most controls on it.

Is that what you mean by “cloning a copy”? Or you mean copy/pasting the
complete folder in Windows Explorer? But that you can’t do while working……?

Thanks……… .

Joni

"Tom Leylan" wrote:
Autosave appears to be an option. On the Tools/Options/ dialog check []
Show all Settings

Under Projects and Solutions "Before building" you have Save all changes set
I'd bet. You might consider changing it to Prompt to Save all Changes.
Alternatively (or additionally) you might not want to delete all the
controls off your form. You can always clone a copy of a file so you never
risk destroying a working version until you see the new one operate
reliably.
"jonigr" <jo****@discuss ions.microsoft. comwrote in message
news:6F******** *************** ***********@mic rosoft.com...
New to VB.NET, designing my first form with an MS manual at my side,
placing
objects and writing code.

For good reason I just:

SAVED All (!!)
deleted all objects leaving only a grey form,
ran my program to see the result,
then UNDO to get my objects back.

No Undo.
No objects.
Empty form.
No object code.

What - - happened? Does this auto-save when a program is run? If so fine,
but as a backup, I hope. It couldn't be overwriting my own Save, it just
can't be.

Been searching 20 minutes, starting to get nervous. Just like to get my
work
back. Help appreciated. Thanks!


Jan 27 '07 #3
If you have saved your changes, you *can* copy the complete folder.
I zip mine up periodically when I hit certain milestones in case I muck
it up later. Works even if I have the project open.

Robin S.
----------------------
"jonigr" <jo****@discuss ions.microsoft. comwrote in message
news:89******** *************** ***********@mic rosoft.com...
Right on Tom, Build & Run "Save changes" seems to be the default, I
changed
it right away.

I suspected some controls UNder a TabControl page I made, that's why I
removed everything. Very confusing for a newbie unable to simply save
a
complete "file" (project? Solution?) under a different name while
working.

Turns out I did Save As. my *Form* a few times and managed to get an
old one
back with most controls on it.

Is that what you mean by "cloning a copy"? Or you mean copy/pasting
the
complete folder in Windows Explorer? But that you can't do while
working..?

Thanks....

Joni

"Tom Leylan" wrote:
>Autosave appears to be an option. On the Tools/Options/ dialog check
[]
Show all Settings

Under Projects and Solutions "Before building" you have Save all
changes set
I'd bet. You might consider changing it to Prompt to Save all
Changes.
Alternativel y (or additionally) you might not want to delete all the
controls off your form. You can always clone a copy of a file so you
never
risk destroying a working version until you see the new one operate
reliably.
"jonigr" <jo****@discuss ions.microsoft. comwrote in message
news:6F******* *************** ************@mi crosoft.com...
New to VB.NET, designing my first form with an MS manual at my
side,
placing
objects and writing code.

For good reason I just:

SAVED All (!!)
deleted all objects leaving only a grey form,
ran my program to see the result,
then UNDO to get my objects back.

No Undo.
No objects.
Empty form.
No object code.

What - - happened? Does this auto-save when a program is run? If so
fine,
but as a backup, I hope. It couldn't be overwriting my own Save, it
just
can't be.

Been searching 20 minutes, starting to get nervous. Just like to
get my
work
back. Help appreciated. Thanks!



Jan 27 '07 #4
It works indeed. Why I thought it didn't I don't know, perhaps because you
can't *rename* while working. Those misconceptions that sneak in and settle
"at a young age"!

Thank you Robin.

"RobinS" wrote:
If you have saved your changes, you *can* copy the complete folder.
I zip mine up periodically when I hit certain milestones in case I muck
it up later. Works even if I have the project open.

Robin S.
----------------------
"jonigr" <jo****@discuss ions.microsoft. comwrote in message
news:89******** *************** ***********@mic rosoft.com...
Right on Tom, Build & Run "Save changes" seems to be the default, I
changed
it right away.

I suspected some controls UNder a TabControl page I made, that's why I
removed everything. Very confusing for a newbie unable to simply save
a
complete "file" (project? Solution?) under a different name while
working.

Turns out I did Save As. my *Form* a few times and managed to get an
old one
back with most controls on it.

Is that what you mean by "cloning a copy"? Or you mean copy/pasting
the
complete folder in Windows Explorer? But that you can't do while
working..?

Thanks....

Joni

"Tom Leylan" wrote:
Autosave appears to be an option. On the Tools/Options/ dialog check
[]
Show all Settings

Under Projects and Solutions "Before building" you have Save all
changes set
I'd bet. You might consider changing it to Prompt to Save all
Changes.
Alternatively (or additionally) you might not want to delete all the
controls off your form. You can always clone a copy of a file so you
never
risk destroying a working version until you see the new one operate
reliably.
"jonigr" <jo****@discuss ions.microsoft. comwrote in message
news:6F******** *************** ***********@mic rosoft.com...
New to VB.NET, designing my first form with an MS manual at my
side,
placing
objects and writing code.

For good reason I just:

SAVED All (!!)
deleted all objects leaving only a grey form,
ran my program to see the result,
then UNDO to get my objects back.

No Undo.
No objects.
Empty form.
No object code.

What - - happened? Does this auto-save when a program is run? If so
fine,
but as a backup, I hope. It couldn't be overwriting my own Save, it
just
can't be.

Been searching 20 minutes, starting to get nervous. Just like to
get my
work
back. Help appreciated. Thanks!


Jan 27 '07 #5
Oddly enough by cloning I mean "copy and paste" into the same project which
it can't do. Hmmm. I wonder if it ever could? I assume not. I thought we
could save a copy and it would give it the name Copy of..." still in the
project.

So alternatively (as was pointed out) it is probably best to copy the folder
containing the project. Make it a compressed folder and it's zipped up and
easy to make as many of them as required.

You might also consider using version control software. There are added
benefits to doing that.
"jonigr" <jo****@discuss ions.microsoft. comwrote in message
news:89******** *************** ***********@mic rosoft.com...
Right on Tom, Build & Run "Save changes" seems to be the default, I
changed
it right away.

I suspected some controls UNder a TabControl page I made, that's why I
removed everything. Very confusing for a newbie unable to simply save a
complete "file" (project? Solution?) under a different name while working.

Turns out I did Save As. my *Form* a few times and managed to get an old
one
back with most controls on it.

Is that what you mean by "cloning a copy"? Or you mean copy/pasting the
complete folder in Windows Explorer? But that you can't do while
working..?

Thanks....

Joni

"Tom Leylan" wrote:
>Autosave appears to be an option. On the Tools/Options/ dialog check []
Show all Settings

Under Projects and Solutions "Before building" you have Save all changes
set
I'd bet. You might consider changing it to Prompt to Save all Changes.
Alternativel y (or additionally) you might not want to delete all the
controls off your form. You can always clone a copy of a file so you
never
risk destroying a working version until you see the new one operate
reliably.
"jonigr" <jo****@discuss ions.microsoft. comwrote in message
news:6F******* *************** ************@mi crosoft.com...
New to VB.NET, designing my first form with an MS manual at my side,
placing
objects and writing code.

For good reason I just:

SAVED All (!!)
deleted all objects leaving only a grey form,
ran my program to see the result,
then UNDO to get my objects back.

No Undo.
No objects.
Empty form.
No object code.

What - - happened? Does this auto-save when a program is run? If so
fine,
but as a backup, I hope. It couldn't be overwriting my own Save, it
just
can't be.

Been searching 20 minutes, starting to get nervous. Just like to get my
work
back. Help appreciated. Thanks!



Jan 27 '07 #6
It's probably because you assumed if you had it open, you had it locked.
That's not usually an invalid assumption. For example, if you were
*running*
your app, you probably couldn't do this. Like if you have an Access
database
open, it's dicey whether it can be copied.

To be honest, I use WinZip, and it tells you if it couldn't get a valid
copy,
and that's how I knew it worked. I zip up my projects a lot, because
sometimes I muck something up and wish I could go back one step.
It wasn't some mysterious knowledge I gleaned somewhere, it was
trial and error.

Or, as Microsoft puts it, "iterative experimentation ". (I love that.
I saw it in one of their WPF articles. I swear, I'm going to put it
on my resume.)

Have fun.
Robin S.
------------------------------
"jonigr" <jo****@discuss ions.microsoft. comwrote in message
news:8C******** *************** ***********@mic rosoft.com...
It works indeed. Why I thought it didn't I don't know, perhaps because
you
can't *rename* while working. Those misconceptions that sneak in and
settle
"at a young age"!

Thank you Robin.

"RobinS" wrote:
>If you have saved your changes, you *can* copy the complete folder.
I zip mine up periodically when I hit certain milestones in case I
muck
it up later. Works even if I have the project open.

Robin S.
----------------------
"jonigr" <jo****@discuss ions.microsoft. comwrote in message
news:89******* *************** ************@mi crosoft.com...
Right on Tom, Build & Run "Save changes" seems to be the default, I
changed
it right away.

I suspected some controls UNder a TabControl page I made, that's
why I
removed everything. Very confusing for a newbie unable to simply
save
a
complete "file" (project? Solution?) under a different name while
working.

Turns out I did Save As. my *Form* a few times and managed to get
an
old one
back with most controls on it.

Is that what you mean by "cloning a copy"? Or you mean copy/pasting
the
complete folder in Windows Explorer? But that you can't do while
working..?

Thanks....

Joni

"Tom Leylan" wrote:

Autosave appears to be an option. On the Tools/Options/ dialog
check
[]
Show all Settings

Under Projects and Solutions "Before building" you have Save all
changes set
I'd bet. You might consider changing it to Prompt to Save all
Changes.
Alternativel y (or additionally) you might not want to delete all
the
controls off your form. You can always clone a copy of a file so
you
never
risk destroying a working version until you see the new one
operate
reliably.
"jonigr" <jo****@discuss ions.microsoft. comwrote in message
news:6F******* *************** ************@mi crosoft.com...
New to VB.NET, designing my first form with an MS manual at my
side,
placing
objects and writing code.

For good reason I just:

SAVED All (!!)
deleted all objects leaving only a grey form,
ran my program to see the result,
then UNDO to get my objects back.

No Undo.
No objects.
Empty form.
No object code.

What - - happened? Does this auto-save when a program is run? If
so
fine,
but as a backup, I hope. It couldn't be overwriting my own Save,
it
just
can't be.

Been searching 20 minutes, starting to get nervous. Just like to
get my
work
back. Help appreciated. Thanks!



Jan 28 '07 #7
Robin,

I can say, with a great deal of certainty, that an Access database can be
copied while it is locked by an application. It cannot be moved but it can
be copied. :)

Bruce

"RobinS" <Ro****@NoSpam. yah.nonewrote in message
news:0N******** *************** *******@comcast .com...
It's probably because you assumed if you had it open, you had it locked.
That's not usually an invalid assumption. For example, if you were
*running*
your app, you probably couldn't do this. Like if you have an Access
database
open, it's dicey whether it can be copied.

To be honest, I use WinZip, and it tells you if it couldn't get a valid
copy,
and that's how I knew it worked. I zip up my projects a lot, because
sometimes I muck something up and wish I could go back one step.
It wasn't some mysterious knowledge I gleaned somewhere, it was
trial and error.

Or, as Microsoft puts it, "iterative experimentation ". (I love that.
I saw it in one of their WPF articles. I swear, I'm going to put it
on my resume.)

Have fun.
Robin S.
------------------------------
"jonigr" <jo****@discuss ions.microsoft. comwrote in message
news:8C******** *************** ***********@mic rosoft.com...
>It works indeed. Why I thought it didn't I don't know, perhaps because
you
can't *rename* while working. Those misconceptions that sneak in and
settle
"at a young age"!

Thank you Robin.

"RobinS" wrote:
>>If you have saved your changes, you *can* copy the complete folder.
I zip mine up periodically when I hit certain milestones in case I muck
it up later. Works even if I have the project open.

Robin S.
----------------------
"jonigr" <jo****@discuss ions.microsoft. comwrote in message
news:89****** *************** *************@m icrosoft.com...
Right on Tom, Build & Run "Save changes" seems to be the default, I
changed
it right away.

I suspected some controls UNder a TabControl page I made, that's why I
removed everything. Very confusing for a newbie unable to simply save
a
complete "file" (project? Solution?) under a different name while
working.

Turns out I did Save As. my *Form* a few times and managed to get an
old one
back with most controls on it.

Is that what you mean by "cloning a copy"? Or you mean copy/pasting
the
complete folder in Windows Explorer? But that you can't do while
working..?

Thanks....

Joni

"Tom Leylan" wrote:

Autosave appears to be an option. On the Tools/Options/ dialog check
[]
Show all Settings

Under Projects and Solutions "Before building" you have Save all
changes set
I'd bet. You might consider changing it to Prompt to Save all
Changes.
Alternative ly (or additionally) you might not want to delete all the
controls off your form. You can always clone a copy of a file so you
never
risk destroying a working version until you see the new one operate
reliably.
"jonigr" <jo****@discuss ions.microsoft. comwrote in message
news:6F****** *************** *************@m icrosoft.com...
New to VB.NET, designing my first form with an MS manual at my
side,
placing
objects and writing code.

For good reason I just:

SAVED All (!!)
deleted all objects leaving only a grey form,
ran my program to see the result,
then UNDO to get my objects back.

No Undo.
No objects.
Empty form.
No object code.

What - - happened? Does this auto-save when a program is run? If so
fine,
but as a backup, I hope. It couldn't be overwriting my own Save, it
just
can't be.

Been searching 20 minutes, starting to get nervous. Just like to
get my
work
back. Help appreciated. Thanks!



Jan 28 '07 #8
Yes, it *can*, but should it? I have had problems with that
in the past. I've gotten "locked" messages a couple of times,
and sometimes it appears that data being updated was lost.
Maybe it was because the network at the company where I worked
was soooooooooooooo o slooooooooooooo ooooow. Accessing information
across the network was like being nibbled to death by ducks.

Robin S.
--------------------------------------
"Bruce W. Darby" <kr******@atcom cast.netwrote in message
news:Qr******** *************** *******@comcast .com...
Robin,

I can say, with a great deal of certainty, that an Access database can be
copied while it is locked by an application. It cannot be moved but it
can be copied. :)

Bruce

"RobinS" <Ro****@NoSpam. yah.nonewrote in message
news:0N******** *************** *******@comcast .com...
>It's probably because you assumed if you had it open, you had it locked.
That's not usually an invalid assumption. For example, if you were
*running*
your app, you probably couldn't do this. Like if you have an Access
database
open, it's dicey whether it can be copied.

To be honest, I use WinZip, and it tells you if it couldn't get a valid
copy,
and that's how I knew it worked. I zip up my projects a lot, because
sometimes I muck something up and wish I could go back one step.
It wasn't some mysterious knowledge I gleaned somewhere, it was
trial and error.

Or, as Microsoft puts it, "iterative experimentation ". (I love that.
I saw it in one of their WPF articles. I swear, I'm going to put it
on my resume.)

Have fun.
Robin S.
------------------------------
"jonigr" <jo****@discuss ions.microsoft. comwrote in message
news:8C******* *************** ************@mi crosoft.com...
>>It works indeed. Why I thought it didn't I don't know, perhaps because
you
can't *rename* while working. Those misconceptions that sneak in and
settle
"at a young age"!

Thank you Robin.

"RobinS" wrote:

If you have saved your changes, you *can* copy the complete folder.
I zip mine up periodically when I hit certain milestones in case I
muck
it up later. Works even if I have the project open.

Robin S.
----------------------
"jonigr" <jo****@discuss ions.microsoft. comwrote in message
news:89***** *************** **************@ microsoft.com.. .
Right on Tom, Build & Run "Save changes" seems to be the default, I
changed
it right away.

I suspected some controls UNder a TabControl page I made, that's why
I
removed everything. Very confusing for a newbie unable to simply
save
a
complete "file" (project? Solution?) under a different name while
working.

Turns out I did Save As. my *Form* a few times and managed to get an
old one
back with most controls on it.

Is that what you mean by "cloning a copy"? Or you mean copy/pasting
the
complete folder in Windows Explorer? But that you can't do while
working..?

Thanks....

Joni

"Tom Leylan" wrote:

Autosave appears to be an option. On the Tools/Options/ dialog
check
[]
Show all Settings

Under Projects and Solutions "Before building" you have Save all
changes set
I'd bet. You might consider changing it to Prompt to Save all
Changes.
Alternativel y (or additionally) you might not want to delete all
the
controls off your form. You can always clone a copy of a file so
you
never
risk destroying a working version until you see the new one operate
reliably.
"jonigr" <jo****@discuss ions.microsoft. comwrote in message
news:6F***** *************** **************@ microsoft.com.. .
New to VB.NET, designing my first form with an MS manual at my
side,
placing
objects and writing code.

For good reason I just:

SAVED All (!!)
deleted all objects leaving only a grey form,
ran my program to see the result,
then UNDO to get my objects back.

No Undo.
No objects.
Empty form.
No object code.

What - - happened? Does this auto-save when a program is run? If
so
fine,
but as a backup, I hope. It couldn't be overwriting my own Save,
it
just
can't be.

Been searching 20 minutes, starting to get nervous. Just like to
get my
work
back. Help appreciated. Thanks!




Jan 28 '07 #9
Well, from where I work, as the supervisor of a small tech support
department, yes, we should be able to copy it. We have a business
relationship with a company that markets a GPS system for golf carts. That
system is designed to keep our software alive and kicking, which means that
the .mdb is locked and cannot be modified or moved, etc. If we need to have
the course upload the database to us because of a problem, then making a
copy of it to the desktop, then uploading it to our web server is the only
way to do it without shutting down the GPS system. Shut down the GPS system
on a day when the course if filled with players using that system to keep
their scores can result in a VERY bad day for the course. :) I've never seen
a 'copy' operation lose or corrupt data in the .mdb and I've been using this
copy method at least three times a week. I 'have' seen the slowness that you
indicate when the location of the database is not within the same building
as software running the application. Seems like anything more than about
'across the parking lot' causes Access to slow down to a crawl.

Bruce

P.S. Being nibbled to death by ducks would be a 'fowl' way to die, I must
admit... :) OK...OK... no stones....

"RobinS" <Ro****@NoSpam. yah.nonewrote in message
news:qe******** *************** *******@comcast .com...
Yes, it *can*, but should it? I have had problems with that
in the past. I've gotten "locked" messages a couple of times,
and sometimes it appears that data being updated was lost.
Maybe it was because the network at the company where I worked
was soooooooooooooo o slooooooooooooo ooooow. Accessing information
across the network was like being nibbled to death by ducks.

Jan 28 '07 #10

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Let's talk about the concept of autonomous AI software engineers and no-code agents. These AIs are designed to manage the entire lifecycle of a software development projectplanning, coding, testing, and deploymentwithout human intervention. Imagine an AI that can take a project description, break it down, write the code, debug it, and then...
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isladogs
by: isladogs | last post by:
The next Access Europe User Group meeting will be on Wednesday 1 May 2024 starting at 18:00 UK time (6PM UTC+1) and finishing by 19:30 (7.30PM). In this session, we are pleased to welcome a new presenter, Adolph Dupr who will be discussing some powerful techniques for using class modules. He will explain when you may want to use classes...
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by: conductexam | last post by:
I have .net C# application in which I am extracting data from word file and save it in database particularly. To store word all data as it is I am converting the whole word file firstly in HTML and then checking html paragraph one by one. At the time of converting from word file to html my equations which are in the word document file was convert...
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by: adsilva | last post by:
A Windows Forms form does not have the event Unload, like VB6. What one acts like?
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by: 6302768590 | last post by:
Hai team i want code for transfer the data from one system to another through IP address by using C# our system has to for every 5mins then we have to update the data what the data is updated we have to send another system

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