Hi all,
I have a VB aplicantion in many places. I need to manage databases over
files on pen drive. What's the database i using to manage this program?
My conditions is this: i have most computer but it's not conected to
internet and i have to actualize this database in a server-computer.
tks a lot,
Marcos
16  1349 
you shoudl just keep your data in an Access database.
the problem of course is that you might not have MS Access running on
the actual server; so you will probably need to build a VB6
application.
you just can't count on .NET being on any server-- mainly because MS
doesn't provide a simple standard mechanism to determine which version
of the framework is on a machine
so I would go to ebay and find a VB6 Professional Edition or something.
hope that helps
-Aaron
Marcos de Lima Carlos wrote:
Hi all,
I have a VB aplicantion in many places. I need to manage databases over
files on pen drive. What's the database i using to manage this program?
My conditions is this: i have most computer but it's not conected to
internet and i have to actualize this database in a server-computer.
tks a lot,
Marcos
The aaronkempf guy doesn't think anybody should use .Net,
and everyone should stay with VB6. Most of the rest of us
don't agree with him.
Can you be clearer about your issue? You have a VB application that is
installed on several machines? What does it do? Does it access one
database or several? When you say pen drive, do you mean a usb key
drive?
As for the database you use as the back-end of the VB application,
it depends on the size of the database, how many concurrent users
you are going to have, etc. Many people use SqlServerExpres s (which
is free). Others use Access. I've done both, it just depends on
the circumstances of the application.
You don't need Internet access to have a desktop app that uses
a database.
If you provide more details, you'll get more feedback, hopefully
from others besides that aaronkempf guy.
Robin S.
----------------------------------
"Marcos de Lima Carlos" <ml*********@ya hoo.com.brwrote in message
news:uV******** *****@TK2MSFTNG P06.phx.gbl...
Hi all,
I have a VB aplicantion in many places. I need to manage databases over
files on pen drive. What's the database i using to manage this program?
My conditions is this: i have most computer but it's not conected to
internet and i have to actualize this database in a server-computer.
tks a lot,
Marcos
you can't guarantee that .NET software is going to be installed on the
server; so you should aim for the 'least common denominator'
-Aaron
RobinS wrote:
The aaronkempf guy doesn't think anybody should use .Net,
and everyone should stay with VB6. Most of the rest of us
don't agree with him.
Can you be clearer about your issue? You have a VB application that is
installed on several machines? What does it do? Does it access one
database or several? When you say pen drive, do you mean a usb key
drive?
As for the database you use as the back-end of the VB application,
it depends on the size of the database, how many concurrent users
you are going to have, etc. Many people use SqlServerExpres s (which
is free). Others use Access. I've done both, it just depends on
the circumstances of the application.
You don't need Internet access to have a desktop app that uses
a database.
If you provide more details, you'll get more feedback, hopefully
from others besides that aaronkempf guy.
Robin S.
----------------------------------
"Marcos de Lima Carlos" <ml*********@ya hoo.com.brwrote in message
news:uV******** *****@TK2MSFTNG P06.phx.gbl...
Hi all,
I have a VB aplicantion in many places. I need to manage databases over
files on pen drive. What's the database i using to manage this program?
My conditions is this: i have most computer but it's not conected to
internet and i have to actualize this database in a server-computer.
tks a lot,
Marcos
You can if you work for the right company. In some companies,
it's regular business to have the .Net framework installed.
In others, it may not be installed, but they're okay with you
installing it for your users.
Robin S.
-----------------------------------
<aa*********@gm ail.comwrote in message
news:11******** *************@f 1g2000cwa.googl egroups.com...
you can't guarantee that .NET software is going to be installed on the
server; so you should aim for the 'least common denominator'
-Aaron
RobinS wrote:
>The aaronkempf guy doesn't think anybody should use .Net,
and everyone should stay with VB6. Most of the rest of us
don't agree with him.
Can you be clearer about your issue? You have a VB application that is
installed on several machines? What does it do? Does it access one
database or several? When you say pen drive, do you mean a usb key
drive?
As for the database you use as the back-end of the VB application,
it depends on the size of the database, how many concurrent users
you are going to have, etc. Many people use SqlServerExpres s (which
is free). Others use Access. I've done both, it just depends on
the circumstances of the application.
You don't need Internet access to have a desktop app that uses
a database.
If you provide more details, you'll get more feedback, hopefully
from others besides that aaronkempf guy.
Robin S.
----------------------------------
"Marcos de Lima Carlos" <ml*********@ya hoo.com.brwrote in message
news:uV******* ******@TK2MSFTN GP06.phx.gbl...
Hi all,
I have a VB aplicantion in many places. I need to manage databases over
files on pen drive. What's the database i using to manage this program?
My conditions is this: i have most computer but it's not conected to
internet and i have to actualize this database in a server-computer.
tks a lot,
Marcos
it just doesn't seem efficient to me.
Microsoft shoudl force the .NET framework upon every machine everywhere
in the world.
as it is; downloading a 300mb file to each of my servers over a dialup
connection is not practical
maybe they can make one installer that will push 1.1 and 1.0 and 2.0 on
there?
or do we really 'only need 3.0'?
is 3.0 going to have a simple apparatus so that we can easily determine
what version is on each machine?
I mean seriously.
how does windows admin A supposed to know what version is on machine X?
please tell me kids... because it's NOT STANDARDIZED; ITS IMPOSSIBLE
FOR A NEWBIE WINDOWS ADMIN TO EVEN DETERMINE WHAT VERSION IS INSTALLED;
SO HOW IN THE FUCK IS IT PRACTICAL TO BUILD APPS ON THIS CRAP?
-Aaron
RobinS wrote:
You can if you work for the right company. In some companies,
it's regular business to have the .Net framework installed.
In others, it may not be installed, but they're okay with you
installing it for your users.
Robin S.
-----------------------------------
<aa*********@gm ail.comwrote in message
news:11******** *************@f 1g2000cwa.googl egroups.com...
you can't guarantee that .NET software is going to be installed on the
server; so you should aim for the 'least common denominator'
-Aaron
RobinS wrote:
The aaronkempf guy doesn't think anybody should use .Net,
and everyone should stay with VB6. Most of the rest of us
don't agree with him.
Can you be clearer about your issue? You have a VB application that is
installed on several machines? What does it do? Does it access one
database or several? When you say pen drive, do you mean a usb key
drive?
As for the database you use as the back-end of the VB application,
it depends on the size of the database, how many concurrent users
you are going to have, etc. Many people use SqlServerExpres s (which
is free). Others use Access. I've done both, it just depends on
the circumstances of the application.
You don't need Internet access to have a desktop app that uses
a database.
If you provide more details, you'll get more feedback, hopefully
from others besides that aaronkempf guy.
Robin S.
----------------------------------
"Marcos de Lima Carlos" <ml*********@ya hoo.com.brwrote in message
news:uV******** *****@TK2MSFTNG P06.phx.gbl...
Hi all,
I have a VB aplicantion in many places. I need to manage databases over
files on pen drive. What's the database i using to manage this program?
My conditions is this: i have most computer but it's not conected to
internet and i have to actualize this database in a server-computer.
tks a lot,
Marcos
<aa*********@gm ail.comwrote in message
news:11******** **************@ f1g2000cwa.goog legroups.com...
it just doesn't seem efficient to me.
Bummer for you.
Microsoft shoudl force the .NET framework upon every machine everywhere
in the world.
Um, it's part of Windows now, so in effect, they're doing this already.
as it is; downloading a 300mb file to each of my servers over a dialup
connection is not practical
Who in the world has a dialup connection these days, especially on a
server?
maybe they can make one installer that will push 1.1 and 1.0 and 2.0 on
there?
or do we really 'only need 3.0'?
is 3.0 going to have a simple apparatus so that we can easily determine
what version is on each machine?
I mean seriously.
how does windows admin A supposed to know what version is on machine X?
A company can install the version(s) they want on every machine. The last
three places I worked had the ability to push software out to the desktops,
in order to make sure all the computers in the company were running the
same versions.
Robin S.
yeah.. so if they've standardized it 'in Windows' then what version is
it??
ROFL
oh yeah; sorry 1.0 for XP? 2.0 for Server 2003 R2.. 1.1 for Server 2003
and 3.0 for Vista?
are you telling me that there is now a standard way to DETERMINE THIS
WITHOUT MAKING THE NT ADMINSTRATORS REMEMBER THAT COMPLEX IF THEN
LOGIC?
Cuz I sure don't see it
THERE ISNT A STANDARD WAY TO INSTALL THE FRAMEWORK ON PEOPLES MACHINES
AND THERE ISNT EVEN A WAY TO DETERMINE WHICH VERSION IS ON MACHINE X.
THE MOST IMPRACTICAL ARCHITECTURE IVE EVER HEARD OF IN MY LIFE
-Aaron
RobinS wrote:
<aa*********@gm ail.comwrote in message
news:11******** **************@ f1g2000cwa.goog legroups.com...
it just doesn't seem efficient to me.
Bummer for you.
Microsoft shoudl force the .NET framework upon every machine everywhere
in the world.
Um, it's part of Windows now, so in effect, they're doing this already.
as it is; downloading a 300mb file to each of my servers over a dialup
connection is not practical
Who in the world has a dialup connection these days, especially on a
server?
maybe they can make one installer that will push 1.1 and 1.0 and 2.0 on
there?
or do we really 'only need 3.0'?
is 3.0 going to have a simple apparatus so that we can easily determine
what version is on each machine?
I mean seriously.
how does windows admin A supposed to know what version is on machine X?
A company can install the version(s) they want on every machine. The last
three places I worked had the ability to push software out to the desktops,
in order to make sure all the computers in the company were running the
same versions.
Robin S.
RobinS escreveu:
The aaronkempf guy doesn't think anybody should use .Net,
and everyone should stay with VB6. Most of the rest of us
don't agree with him.
- My english is so poor... sorry.
Can you be clearer about your issue? You have a VB application that is
installed on several machines?
- Yes, but this machines doesn´t have internet connection.
>What does it do?
-It's a logistic program. This program collected data from one machine
on usb key and i transfer this data from server.
>Does it access one database or several? When you say pen drive, do you mean a usb key
drive?
- Yes. USB key. In Brazil we said "pen drive".
>
As for the database you use as the back-end of the VB application,
it depends on the size of the database, how many concurrent users
you are going to have, etc. Many people use SqlServerExpres s (which
is free). Others use Access. I've done both, it just depends on
the circumstances of the application.
You don't need Internet access to have a desktop app that uses
a database.
- I don't know how to make code for management database for this. Can
you show me some example for this application?
>
If you provide more details, you'll get more feedback, hopefully
from others besides that aaronkempf guy.
Ok tks... :)
Marcos
>
Robin S.
----------------------------------
"Marcos de Lima Carlos" <ml*********@ya hoo.com.brwrote in message
news:uV******** *****@TK2MSFTNG P06.phx.gbl...
>Hi all,
I have a VB aplicantion in many places. I need to manage databases over
files on pen drive. What's the database i using to manage this program?
My conditions is this: i have most computer but it's not conected to
internet and i have to actualize this database in a server-computer.
tks a lot,
Marcos
marcos
listen asshole
im sorry that you dont speak english well.
i was just saying that if you're going to move this from one server to
another, dealing with the .NET framework might not be practical
just use vb6 and mdb file.. everything else is too complex to deal
with other dependencies, etc
..net framework? on a thumbdrive?
what if half the servers dont have the framework?
there isn't even an easy way to determine which version of the
framework is on a particular machine; those dipshits in redmond need
some real-world experience
Marcos de Lima Carlos wrote:
RobinS escreveu:
The aaronkempf guy doesn't think anybody should use .Net,
and everyone should stay with VB6. Most of the rest of us
don't agree with him.
- My english is so poor... sorry.
Can you be clearer about your issue? You have a VB application that is
installed on several machines?
- Yes, but this machines doesn´t have internet connection.
What does it do?
-It's a logistic program. This program collected data from one machine
on usb key and i transfer this data from server.
Does it access one database or several? When you say pen drive, do you mean a usb key
drive?
- Yes. USB key. In Brazil we said "pen drive".
As for the database you use as the back-end of the VB application,
it depends on the size of the database, how many concurrent users
you are going to have, etc. Many people use SqlServerExpres s (which
is free). Others use Access. I've done both, it just depends on
the circumstances of the application.
You don't need Internet access to have a desktop app that uses
a database.
- I don't know how to make code for management database for this. Can
you show me some example for this application?
If you provide more details, you'll get more feedback, hopefully
from others besides that aaronkempf guy.
Ok tks... :)
Marcos
Robin S.
----------------------------------
"Marcos de Lima Carlos" <ml*********@ya hoo.com.brwrote in message
news:uV******** *****@TK2MSFTNG P06.phx.gbl...
Hi all,
I have a VB aplicantion in many places. I need to manage databases over
files on pen drive. What's the database i using to manage this program?
My conditions is this: i have most computer but it's not conected to
internet and i have to actualize this database in a server-computer.
tks a lot,
Marcos
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