State holidays

[Bob]

In .NET, is there an easy way to determine State Holidays, such as
Thanksgiving, Memorial day, etc?
Any reference is appreciated.

[Herfried K. Wagner [MVP]]

* "One Handed Man [ OHM# ]" <OneHandedMan@& REMOVE&TO%MAIL% MEBTInternet.co m> scripsit:

Thats what I said, read me post again !

Sorry, should be a reply to Cor.

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Herfried K. Wagner [MVP]
<http://www.mvps.org/dotnet>

[Herfried K. Wagner [MVP]]

* "Tom Leylan" <ge*@iamtiredof spam.com> scripsit:

Concepts like "holidays" are virtually meaningless. Given the knowledge
that a particular day in a particular country is a "holiday" what can you
rely on as being a fact that you can use? Meaning, are the banks closed?
Government offices? Do people working get 1.5 times their regular pay rate?
It only means it is a holiday and that in itself means nothing.
It would be nice for a calendar application, but, for example in
Austria, there are school holidays, but many schools have their holidays
at different time. It would be nearly impossible to create a list of
holidays which apply to a certain person.
If you think it is important then it would probably need to be set up as a
service. You could query an online source that given a date and a country
it could return whether it was a recognized holiday or not. You would have
to calculate the holidays that change days and you would have to know what
year the holiday became effective so that if somebody posts a date in the
past you could check if it was "Independen ce Day" in the United States (for
instance) in 1601, prior to it being a country.
ACK. A, for example, web service, would be a good idea. This will help
keeping the list "up to date".
Given you probably won't have all the information for "every" country you
would have to be able to return "True", "False" and "I don't know" and the
don't know answer will be the reply to the majority of queries. Let's try
one for instance... "Tibet, Jan 16, 1804" so tell me if it was a holiday or
not.

;-)))

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Herfried K. Wagner [MVP]
<http://www.mvps.org/dotnet>

[Herfried K. Wagner [MVP]]

* "Cor" <no*@non.com> scripsit:

I started this when I first thought this question from the OP is a
ridiculous question because there are so many regions in the world.

But because .Net has region settings where in is every comma, every winter
and summertime, every type of datestring,etc etc, than this I think is only
a little but good extention.

Regions <> countries. Holidays are defined in countries or even parts
of them. I think that's the main problem.

--
Herfried K. Wagner [MVP]
<http://www.mvps.org/dotnet>

[Herfried K. Wagner [MVP]]

* "Cor" <no*@non.com> scripsit:

You have to argue with me about that Herfried, not with OHM,
Sorry...
But you lost to much I think the last times.

Sorry again, I don't understand.

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Herfried K. Wagner [MVP]
<http://www.mvps.org/dotnet>

[Tom Leylan]

I read the thread...

The problem is (and I don't know what Windows does to know what state one is
in or what state one might be referring to) but even Daylight Savings does
not apply to the state of Hawaii and Arizona (except for the Navajo Indian
Reservation) nor does it apply in Guam, Puerto Rico, the Virgin Islands or
part of the state of Indiana.

On certain years it was extended (1974 and 1975) and the rules have been
changed since the rule was enacted. The same things are true in other
countries. The fact is that nobody knows "for certain" at any point in time
in the past for a given country whether or not the country (or some part of
it) did or didn't abide by the rule.

It's a problem but it is an unfortunate fact. Windows doesn't know what
time it is in Arizona... you have to rely on the system clock or accept an
offset from the official world time. The local time and certainly holidays
aren't standardized.

"Cor" <no*@non.com> wrote in message
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Hi Tom,

I started this when I first thought this question from the OP is a
ridiculous question because there are so many regions in the world.

But because .Net has region settings where in is every comma, every winter
and summertime, every type of datestring,etc etc, than this I think is only a little but good extention.

Cor

ps National, Public holidays

[Tom Leylan]

Oh no doubt... lots of classes would be useful. Your wrote and I simply
agreed that it cannot be made part of the .Net framework... though clearly
some sort of template could be supplied. Perhaps an ICalendar interface if
there isn't one already.

There are banks that are open on Saturday and some are open on Sunday. Any
good help desk system should check how many people are on staff rather than
relying on "Saturday is closed" as a rule. If it determined that zero
operators were scheduled it would be able to handle situations where some
people work on Saturday. And it would be better able to calculate during
the weekdays when the number of operators rises and falls.
"One Handed Man [ OHM# ]" <OneHandedMan@& REMOVE&TO%MAIL% MEBTInternet.co m>
wrote in message news:%2******** **********@TK2M SFTNGP09.phx.gb l...

Even so, a generic Holiday class would be usefull where you could load
custom dates in and have an IsHoliday member function. Lots of applications use this kind of information. For example, a help desk system might use if
for calculating reponse time and removing weekends and bank holidays etc.

OHM
Tom Leylan wrote:

Cor,

Concepts like "holidays" are virtually meaningless. Given the
knowledge that a particular day in a particular country is a
"holiday" what can you rely on as being a fact that you can use?
Meaning, are the banks closed? Government offices? Do people working
get 1.5 times their regular pay rate? It only means it is a holiday
and that in itself means nothing.

If you think it is important then it would probably need to be set up
as a service. You could query an online source that given a date and
a country it could return whether it was a recognized holiday or not.
You would have to calculate the holidays that change days and you
would have to know what year the holiday became effective so that if
somebody posts a date in the past you could check if it was
"Independen ce Day" in the United States (for instance) in 1601, prior
to it being a country.

Given you probably won't have all the information for "every" country
you would have to be able to return "True", "False" and "I don't
know" and the don't know answer will be the reply to the majority of
queries. Let's try one for instance... "Tibet, Jan 16, 1804" so
tell me if it was a holiday or not.

Regards - OHM# On**********@BT Internet.com

[Tom Leylan]

It might be a good idea if people looked these things up before they travel
too far down the road :-)

Even Thanksgiving is only the 4th Thursday in November "today in the US" it
was not always that day and it isn't that day in Canada. I'm not arguing
about it BTW I'm simply pointing out that it's usefulness as "informatio n"
depends upon what the app is expected to do.
"Marc Miller" <mm*****@epix.n et> wrote in message
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Bob,

Thanksgiving is always the 4th Thursday in November, Labor Day is always the 1st Monday in September and Memorial Day is always the last Monday in May.

For any others, search past year's calendars for the patterns.

M. Miller
"Bob" <bo******@yahoo .com> wrote in message
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In .NET, is there an easy way to determine State Holidays, such as
Thanksgiving, Memorial day, etc?
Any reference is appreciated.

[Cor]

Hi Tom,

Here in Europe we dont have that long our summertime, but it is in the
Windows system and nobody here has a problem with it. Only the guys at
Microsoft because the cannot make a good table on the web.

Cor

Even Thanksgiving is only the 4th Thursday in November "today in the US" it was not always that day and it isn't that day in Canada. I'm not arguing
about it BTW I'm simply pointing out that it's usefulness as "informatio n"
depends upon what the app is expected to do.

[Cor]

Hi Herfried,

I am talking about public holidays, like Easter, Chrismass, and all that not
school holidays or other.

Cor

[Cor]

Herfried,

I thought Austria had is own local setting or is that a part of Bohemia?

Cor