Correct abstraction for TK

[luke.hoersten]

I'm looking for a good example of how to correctly abstract TK code
from the rest of my program. I want to just get some user info and
then get 4 values from the GUI. Right now I've written it OOP per the
examples on python.org but it doesn't seem to be meshing very well
with the rest of my project.

Can anyone suggest some examples so that I can get more ideas?

Thanks,
Luke

[Adonis Vargas]

lu***********@g mail.com wrote:

I'm looking for a good example of how to correctly abstract TK code
from the rest of my program. I want to just get some user info and
then get 4 values from the GUI. Right now I've written it OOP per the
examples on python.org but it doesn't seem to be meshing very well
with the rest of my project.

Can anyone suggest some examples so that I can get more ideas?

Thanks,
Luke

I would not consider this to be 'correct' as many have different
philosophies on how to tackle certain projects. My way of doing
programming with GUI is writing it in 'tiers' (using this word loosely).

i.e.

import Tkinter as tk

class UsersInfo:

pass

class Events(UserInfo ):

pass

class GUI(Events):

pass

This way your GUI class sends events to the Events class to act upon the
UserInfo class. For the GUI class here all you do is code the actual
display and the callbacks only. Then in the Events class you code the
actions you want to happen when you interact the the GUI. Since the GUI
class inherits the Events class, in the GUI class you would simply call
a method found in the Events class when an event is triggered. Now the
Events class which inherits the UserInfo class, you can start using the
class to store/modify the user data you desire. Now your code is
separated into more comprehensible, and easier to manage sections. In
this example I am using inheritance, but if you prefer delegation, then
that too can be done here. Also, by doing this it will simplify the
moving to more robust graphic toolkits with little modification.

Hope this helps.

Adonis

[Paul Rubin]

lu***********@g mail.com writes:

I'm looking for a good example of how to correctly abstract TK code
from the rest of my program. I want to just get some user info and
then get 4 values from the GUI. Right now I've written it OOP per the
examples on python.org but it doesn't seem to be meshing very well
with the rest of my project.

Simplest: just have gui operations call the application code. The
application main loop is just the gui event loop. Example (first tk
program I ever wrote, and one of my first python programs):

http://www.nightsong.com/phr/python/calc.py

That might be enough for what you're doing.

Fancier: put gui in separate thread. Be careful, it's not reentrant;
all communication with the application has to be through queues, sort
of like writing a miniature web server. Most straightforward is to
pass tuples like (function, args, **kwargs) through the queues, where
the opposite end invokes the function on the arg list. There are some
recipes in the Python cookbook for triggering the event loop on a
periodic timeout from inside tkinter.

See also "model-view-controller" for a more complex design approach
intended to separate the interface from the application logic.

Finally, consider total separation by embedding an http server in the
application, so the gui is a web browser and you write a web app.
It's often easier to code a simple html interface than to mess with
the damn Tk widgets and trying to get them to look decent on the
screen, plus it lets you easily put the client on a remote machine,
support multiple clients simultaneously, etc.

[Luke Hoersten]

Thanks for all the suggestions guys. I'm realizing that I need to
chose more of a specific paradigm. With closures, I was able to stay
away from unneeded classes before but Tk brings it to a whole other
level.

Thanks again,
Luke

On Jul 3, 2:50 am, Paul Rubin <http://phr...@NOSPAM.i nvalidwrote:

luke.hoers...@g mail.com writes:

I'm looking for a good example of how to correctly abstract TK code
from the rest of my program. I want to just get some user info and
then get 4 values from the GUI. Right now I've written it OOP per the
examples on python.org but it doesn't seem to be meshing very well
with the rest of my project.

Simplest: just have gui operations call the application code. The
application main loop is just the gui event loop. Example (first tk
program I ever wrote, and one of my first python programs):

http://www.nightsong.com/phr/python/calc.py

That might be enough for what you're doing.

Fancier: put gui in separate thread. Be careful, it's not reentrant;
all communication with the application has to be through queues, sort
of like writing a miniature web server. Most straightforward is to
pass tuples like (function, args, **kwargs) through the queues, where
the opposite end invokes the function on the arg list. There are some
recipes in the Python cookbook for triggering the event loop on a
periodic timeout from inside tkinter.

See also "model-view-controller" for a more complex design approach
intended to separate the interface from the application logic.

Finally, consider total separation by embedding an http server in the
application, so the gui is a web browser and you write a web app.
It's often easier to code a simple html interface than to mess with
the damn Tk widgets and trying to get them to look decent on the
screen, plus it lets you easily put the client on a remote machine,
support multiple clients simultaneously, etc.