How do you compare Python to Lisp? What specific advantages do you
think that one has over the other?
Note I'm not a Python person and I have no axes to grind here. This is
just a question for my general education.
Mark
Dec 8 '06
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George Sakkis wrote:
JS******@gmail. com wrote:
>1. Lisp is the only industrial strength language
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^
You keep using that phrase. I don't think it means what you think it
means.
[Vizzini has just cut the rope The Dread Pirate Roberts is climbing up]
Vizzini: HE DIDN'T FALL? INCONCEIVABLE.
Inigo Montoya: You keep using that word. I do not think it means what
you think it means.
Brian Adkins wrote:
George Sakkis wrote:
>JS******@gmail. com wrote:
>>1. Lisp is the only industrial strength language
Neither Lisp nor Python is an "industrial strength language".
The infrastructure is too weak. Hosting providers and distro
makers aren't concerned over whether Python works. They
care if C, C++, Java, PHP, and Perl work, but not Python or LISP.
Ask them.
John Nagle
John Nagle wrote:
Neither Lisp nor Python is an "industrial strength language".
The infrastructure is too weak. Hosting providers and distro
makers aren't concerned over whether Python works. They
care if C, C++, Java, PHP, and Perl work, but not Python or LISP.
Ask them.
John Nagle
In your excitement to post a sweeping and inaccurate generalization (you
missed diss'ing Ruby), I think you may have missed the point of my post.
I surely wasn't trying to restart a dead thread, I just thought it was
funny that there was a similarity to a line from Princess Bride in the
thread (see relevant part below that you cut out).
If you want to restart a debate, please go back and reply to some
serious post in the thread - don't hijack mine for your own evil
purposes and cut out the good parts - did you even see the movie?
George Sakkis wrote:
You keep using that phrase. I don't think it means what you think it
means.
[Vizzini has just cut the rope The Dread Pirate Roberts is climbing up]
Vizzini: HE DIDN'T FALL? INCONCEIVABLE.
Inigo Montoya: You keep using that word. I do not think it means what
you think it means.
Brian Adkins wrote:
John Nagle wrote:
> Neither Lisp nor Python is an "industrial strength language".
The infrastructure is too weak. Hosting providers and distro
makers aren't concerned over whether Python works. They
care if C, C++, Java, PHP, and Perl work, but not Python or LISP.
Ask them.
John Nagle
In your excitement to post a sweeping and inaccurate generalization (you
missed diss'ing Ruby), I think you may have missed the point of my post.
I surely wasn't trying to restart a dead thread, I just thought it was
funny that there was a similarity to a line from Princess Bride in the
thread (see relevant part below that you cut out).
If you want to restart a debate, please go back and reply to some
serious post in the thread - don't hijack mine for your own evil
purposes and cut out the good parts - did you even see the movie?
Yes. I think George did, too. (I was wondering what you were up to.)
:)
kt
>
George Sakkis wrote:
You keep using that phrase. I don't think it means what you think it
means.
[Vizzini has just cut the rope The Dread Pirate Roberts is climbing up]
Vizzini: HE DIDN'T FALL? INCONCEIVABLE.
Inigo Montoya: You keep using that word. I do not think it means what
you think it means.
--
Well, I've wrestled with reality for 35 years, Doctor, and
I'm happy to state I finally won out over it.
-- Elwood P. Dowd
In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant.
-- Elwood's Mom
Brian Adkins wrote:
John Nagle wrote:
If you want to restart a debate, please go back and reply to some
serious post in the thread - don't hijack mine for your own evil
purposes and cut out the good parts - did you even see the movie?
If you want to post jokes, try rec.humor.funny . Although
they mave moderation and you may not
John Nagle
John Nagle wrote:
Hosting providers and distro
makers aren't concerned over whether Python works. They
care if C, C++, Java, PHP, and Perl work, but not Python or LISP.
Ask them.
Do you have any real experience with recent linux distros? Or with any
_real_ hosting providers?
Because what you've said is clearly not true. Just because the
situation isn't as easy _for you_ as you would like, doesn't mean that
Python is being ignored to the extent you're trying to claim.
-alex23
"alex23" <wu*****@gmail. comwrites:
Hosting providers and distro
makers aren't concerned over whether Python works. They
care if C, C++, Java, PHP, and Perl work, but not Python or LISP.
Ask them.
Do you have any real experience with recent linux distros? Or with any
_real_ hosting providers?
Care to name a "real" hosting provider that cares whether Python works?
alex23 wrote:
John Nagle wrote:
>Hosting providers and distro
makers aren't concerned over whether Python works. They
care if C, C++, Java, PHP, and Perl work, but not Python or LISP.
Ask them.
Do you have any real experience with recent linux distros? Or with any
_real_ hosting providers?
Because what you've said is clearly not true. Just because the
situation isn't as easy _for you_ as you would like, doesn't mean that
Python is being ignored to the extent you're trying to claim.
-alex23
alex23 - please don't feed the trolls.
Brian Adkins wrote:
alex23 wrote:
>John Nagle wrote:
>>Hosting providers and distro
makers aren't concerned over whether Python works. They
care if C, C++, Java, PHP, and Perl work, but not Python or LISP.
Ask them.
Do you have any real experience with recent linux distros? Or with any
_real_ hosting providers?
Do you? You're writing from a gmail account, not your own site.
I have four hosting accounts with EZpublishing and a dedicated server
at Aplus.net. I spent weeks trying to find a hosting provider that
would provide a Python environment that "just works", like everyone
does for Perl. What you typically get is a basic Python 2.4,
and a refusal to install more packages, because it's so time-consuming.
Or a quote of $50 to $150 per hour to install Python packages.
There are a very few hosting providers that actually want to provide
Python hosting, such as Hard Hat Hosting. But most don't.
>>
Because what you've said is clearly not true. Just because the
situation isn't as easy _for you_ as you would like, doesn't mean that
Python is being ignored to the extent you're trying to claim.
I don't see any evidence to back up this unsubstantiated claim.
John Nagle
John Nagle wrote:
Brian Adkins wrote:
>alex23 wrote:
>>John Nagle wrote:
Hosting providers and distro
makers aren't concerned over whether Python works. They
care if C, C++, Java, PHP, and Perl work, but not Python or LISP.
Ask them.
Do you have any real experience with recent linux distros? Or with any
_real_ hosting providers?
Do you? You're writing from a gmail account, not your own site.
I have four hosting accounts with EZpublishing and a dedicated server
at Aplus.net. I spent weeks trying to find a hosting provider that
would provide a Python environment that "just works", like everyone
does for Perl. What you typically get is a basic Python 2.4,
and a refusal to install more packages, because it's so time-consuming.
Or a quote of $50 to $150 per hour to install Python packages.
There are a very few hosting providers that actually want to provide
Python hosting, such as Hard Hat Hosting. But most don't.
>>>
Because what you've said is clearly not true. Just because the
situation isn't as easy _for you_ as you would like, doesn't mean that
Python is being ignored to the extent you're trying to claim.
I don't see any evidence to back up this unsubstantiated claim.
John Nagle
Ok, since you provided some details you appear less troll-like, so I'll
ignore my own advice.
With prices of dedicated servers and virtual private servers so cheap,
why would anyone get a hosting account without root access? Once you
have root, just install whatever you want. It shouldn't take more than a
few minutes to install Python or whatever language you desire.
If "apt-get install" doesn't give you a recent enough version, just
download the source and compile it.
Brian
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