how is python not the same as java?

[gavino]

both are interpreted oo langauges......

[George Sakkis]

how are BMWs not the same with Yugos ?

both have four wheels and burn gasoline....... ..........

[John Henry]

gavino wrote:

both are interpreted oo langauges......

I remember the days when I got all excited about Java (many many moons
ago when Java first came out). I brought a whole truckload of books on
it, even spent 5 days attending a seminar on the subject. To my great
disappointment, I never got very far with it. Not being a
"profession al programmer" by training, I found it very difficult to go
very far with Java. Everything was so "un-natural" for me. So, I
felt back to my little C-corner.

Last year, I got a chance to attend a 5 day class on Python. Hated it
- for the first 5 minutes (what the ****, they are using white space
for what????) but from that pont on, never look back.

Not considering myself an advance Python programmer. Don't matter, I
am very proficient with it. It allows me to get things done - in a
whole lot less time then I have to do otherwise.

Learning new things about it everyday, finding new and usefull open
source packages for it everyday.

My Java books? They hit the trash dump long ago....

[Steve Holden]

Ben Finney wrote:

Steve Holden <st***@holdenwe b.comwrites:

>Java is horrible, Oython is not.

Is that the predecessor to Python, the one that could only be
expressed in vowel noises?

You're taking the oiss, right?

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[Michele Simionato]

gavino wrote:

both are interpreted oo langauges......

Notice that gavino has a long history of asking trollish questions in
Lisp and Scheme
newsgroups and he displays the typical behavior of a troll.

Michele Simionato

[Ben Finney]

Steve Holden <st***@holdenwe b.comwrites:

Ben Finney wrote:

Steve Holden <st***@holdenwe b.comwrites:

Java is horrible, Oython is not.

Is that the predecessor to Python, the one that could only be
expressed in vowel noises?

You're taking the oiss, right?

Oardon. I never meant to ooke fun at your tyoing imoediment.

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[Bruno Desthuilliers]

gavino wrote:

both are interpreted oo langauges......

Being "interprete d" or whatever is a feature of an *implementation *, not
of a language.

FWIW, CPython (the reference implementation) is compiled to byte-code,
that is then executed by a virtual machine. And Sun's Java
implementation works the same.

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bruno desthuilliers
python -c "print '@'.join(['.'.join([w[::-1] for w in p.split('.')]) for
p in 'o****@xiludom. gro'.split('@')])"

[Bruno Desthuilliers]

Jorge Vargas wrote:

On 9 Nov 2006 16:44:40 -0800, gavino <bo******@yahoo .comwrote:

>both are interpreted oo langauges......

that is not correct java is compiled and the VM interprets the code

So are CPython and IronPython.
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bruno desthuilliers
python -c "print '@'.join(['.'.join([w[::-1] for w in p.split('.')]) for
p in 'o****@xiludom. gro'.split('@')])"

[Paul Boddie]

Ray wrote:

p.*******@ieee. org wrote:

Jython exists.

And Pava (or Pyava) doesn't, you mean?

Proof of concept only: http://www.boddie.org.uk/python/javaclass.html

If there were any really compelling libraries for Java that really had
to be available for CPython programs, I'd probably have worked around
the "platform issues" mentioned in the above document by now. However,
most people should just use Jython if they want Python and Java
interoperabilit y, and gcj if they want to write Java for use with
CPython (just as the PyLucene people have done).

Paul

[robert]

gavino wrote:

both are interpreted oo langauges......

Thinks the first FAQs and tutorials about Python answer this question in detail.

Theoreticalls you'd start off thinking this:
* Java is a stiff typing language (as old C/C++/Pascal... and even Perl are also ).
* Python is a dynamic typing language - regarding almost all aspects.
From that each language can try to achieve some benefits of the other basic paradigm by becoming cramped.

Practically:
* you will type a Python programs >5x faster than the equivalent in Java.
* This is true, at least when we assume that test code has to be done for a good program anyway
(and/otherwise "pychecker" will neutralize most first-glance disadvantages of Python)
* Jave (typed code) ist executed faster. Yet Python is even faster when using little C, Pyrex, ...

That is probably what counts.

Robert

[Neil Cerutti]

On 2006-11-10, gavino <bo******@yahoo .comwrote:

both are interpreted oo langauges......

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