Makin search on the other site and getting data and writing in xml

[altemurbugra]

Hi
is it possible to make search on for example on google without api with
a list of words
1- there is word list
2- the script will take the words from the list by turn
3-it iwll make the search
4-will get results
5-will write the results as xml file.

i dont mean only google, for other sites aswell

I hope we get a result

[Fredrik Lundh]

<al**********@g mail.comwrote:

is it possible to make search on for example on google without api with
a list of words
1- there is word list
2- the script will take the words from the list by turn
3-it iwll make the search
4-will get results
5-will write the results as xml file.

http://www.google.com/terms_of_service.html

"You may not send automated queries of any sort to Google's system without express
permission in advance from Google."

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[altemurbugra]

I dont mean only google, also other sites aswell

[Adam Jones]

al**********@gm ail.com wrote:

I dont mean only google, also other sites aswell

Google expressly forbids doing any form of automated search outside of
their api. If you want to write a script that will run Google searches,
you have to use the api to do so. As far as I know most of the other
search sites have the same requirement.

Yes, it is possible to query a bunch of search sites and dump the
results into an xml file. It is not even all that hard. In fact, I bet
running a search on the relevant terms will probably produce something
that almost does what you want.

-Adam

[altemurbugra]

Thank you very much for your explications. I dont mean a search engine.
for example a dictionary site for searching words.

[altemurbugra]

For example i give you an example about making search on one of the
site and get the result.

# #!/usr/bin/python
# # -*- coding: windows-1254; -*-
#
# import urllib
# dictionary = {} # wow, it's actually a dictionary
# words = ['apple', 'banana', 'cheese']
# for word in words:
# dictionary[word] =
urllib.urlopen( "http://www.example.com/look.php?w=" + word).read()
#
# print dictionary

i dont know how i can get the words from a txt file for searching by
turn

[altemurbugra]

And also writing the result as a html or xml file

[Steven D'Aprano]

On Mon, 25 Sep 2006 13:51:55 +0200, Fredrik Lundh wrote:

http://www.google.com/terms_of_service.html

"You may not send automated queries of any sort to Google's system without express
permission in advance from Google."

I'm not just being a pedantic weasel here, but what's an automated query?
Google's ToS is a legal document (maybe), and if both parties don't agree
on the meanings of terms, well, then it is a lousy legal document and a
recipe for trouble.

Google don't define "automated query"it, and I don't think they can. In
fact, the closest they come to defining it is to list three things they
want to prevent, NONE of which have anything to do with the distinction
between automated and non-automated.

(What on earth is "meta-searching"? If you're going to use terms which
don't have a commonly understood meaning, define what they mean.)

If I want to search for "foo", and I type "foo" into the Firefox search
box, is that an automated query?

What if I type "gg: foo" into Konqueror's address bar, which expands to
"http://www.google.com/search?q=foo"? Is it okay if I type the URL by hand
myself?

Can I use the browser to save the search page to a local HTML file? If
Google says no, how can they possibly hope to stop me?

What if I type this command into my shell?

elinks --dump "http://www.google.com/search?q=foo" output.html

What if I type

wget "http://www.google.com/search?q=foo"

into the shell? Surely that's no more automated than typing "foo"
into Google's search box. (wget doesn't in fact work, as Google recognises
its user-agent string and blocks it, EVEN in cases where I am using wget
manually. What, can't Google themselves tell the difference between
automatic and non-automatic searching?)

Where is the line I must not cross?

The thing is, Google doesn't want people "reselling" their services, and I
respect Google's intention. But trying to draw a distinction between
"automated" and "non-automated" requests is difficult if not impossible,
as can be seen by the heavy-handed way Google blocks the manual use of
wget. I don't condone the gross abuse of Google's service, but I don't
think an artificial distinction between automated and non-automated is a
useful way to go about it.

Of course, what I think isn't important. If Google wants to write legal
contracts that won't stand up in court (speaking as somebody who isn't a
lawyer and whose legal advice is worthless), they can. But the point is, I
see no ethical nor legal reason why a user can't create a script which is
called MANUALLY by the user and does what a browser does, namely send and
receive data from websites (which may or may not include Google).

And that, it seems to me, is what the Original Poster wanted.

--
Steven D'Aprano

[Fredrik Lundh]

al**********@gm ail.com wrote:

i dont know how i can get the words from a txt file for searching by
turn

checking the "reading and writing files" section in the tutorial might
be somewhat helpful:

http://docs.python.org/tut/node9.htm...00000000000000

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[Steve Holden]

Steven D'Aprano wrote:

On Mon, 25 Sep 2006 13:51:55 +0200, Fredrik Lundh wrote:

> http://www.google.com/terms_of_service.html

"You may not send automated queries of any sort to Google's system without express
permission in advance from Google."

I'm not just being a pedantic weasel here, but what's an automated query?
Google's ToS is a legal document (maybe), and if both parties don't agree
on the meanings of terms, well, then it is a lousy legal document and a
recipe for trouble.

Google don't define "automated query"it, and I don't think they can. In
fact, the closest they come to defining it is to list three things they
want to prevent, NONE of which have anything to do with the distinction
between automated and non-automated.

The fact remains that Google can chop your searching ability off at the
knees if *they* determine that you have broken the terms of service, so
whether you agree or not becomes slightly academic.

regards
Steve
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