Python 2.5 licensing: stop this change

[Steve Holden]

As the only director of the Python Software Foundation to vote against a
recent Board motion to implement the change in licensing terms described in

http://pyfound.blogspot.com/2006/04/...ng-change.html

I would like to place on record my protest against this change. I think
it will harm the Python language and ultimately be counter-productive,
reducing the user base and discouraging open source programmers from
contributing to the code base.

If you disagree with this proposed change it's not too late to do
something about it. If this change goes ahead it will be the end of
Python as we know it.

regards
Steve
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[Kent Johnson]

be************@ lycos.com wrote:

Aww, but I liked the idea of copying Perl 6 REs, and porting python to
the toy CPU :-)

I think if PSF is going to support porting of Python to "toy" CPUs then
the Digi-Comp should be the first target. This will breathe new life
into these toys which for years have been relegated to the backs of
closets and dusty attics. Having a modern programming language available
will bring them out of the dark ages of counters and logic tables and
make them useful for such purposes as web servers and biological
research. And for the developers or others who need to target this
platform, it is again in production.
http://paperforest.blogspot.com/2006...gi-comp-1.html

Kent

[garylinux]

Look at the date.
Worry about this if it is still around tomarrow

[Grant Edwards]

On 2006-04-01, Steve Holden <st***@holdenwe b.com> wrote:

As the only director of the Python Software Foundation to vote against a
recent Board motion to implement the change in licensing terms described in

http://pyfound.blogspot.com/2006/04/...ng-change.html

Good one Steve.

I particularly liked the Comments section.

:)

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[Grant Edwards]

On 2006-04-01, Piet van Oostrum <pi**@cs.uu.n l> wrote:

>> "Fuzzyman" <fu******@gmail .com> (F) wrote:

F> Can I ask for clarification. The charge applies to any commercial use
F> of a derivative work based on the Python source code ?

F> Normal applications that use Python, including bunding the standard
F> CPython as an executable, using tools like py2exe, won't be covered.
F> Right ?

As I understand it, distributing Python is also covered. For a commercial
vendor $1.25 is peanuts, but for the PSA it is a significant amount (think
about all the Mac OSX copies if Apple decides to switch to 2.5).

I just found last night that my spankin' new Thinkpad came with
Python 2.2 pre-installed underneath an "IBMTOOLS" directory on
the C: drive.

Don't let Lenovo slide by without paying...

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[Roy Smith]

In article <ma************ *************** ************@py thon.org>,
Steve Holden <st***@holdenwe b.com> wrote:

As the only director of the Python Software Foundation to vote against a
recent Board motion to implement the change in licensing terms described in

http://pyfound.blogspot.com/2006/04/...ng-change.html

I would like to place on record my protest against this change. I think
it will harm the Python language and ultimately be counter-productive,
reducing the user base and discouraging open source programmers from
contributing to the code base.

If you disagree with this proposed change it's not too late to do
something about it. If this change goes ahead it will be the end of
Python as we know it.

regards
Steve

Absolutely agree. This is a disaster. Specifying the use of $US will shut
out our friends who use quatloos or gold pressed latinum for currency. Bad
idea.

[reedobrien]

That isn't in the published 2.5 License.

http://docs.python.org/dev/ref/node110.html

Thanks for the scare..

~r

[Martin P. Hellwig]

Fuzzyman wrote:
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From the site:
"Advanced Program for Research In Licensing, whose First Object-Oriented
License"

string = "Advanced Program for Research In Licensing, whose First
Object-Oriented License"
for letter in string:
if ord(letter) in range(65,91):
print(letter),

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mph

[EP]

>

Hmmm... after due consideration (and reading the announcmement
properly), I support this license change in full.

If I could read past the first paragraph do you think I would really
hang onto this newsgroup asking stupid questions?!

The personal harm caused readers of this announcement should entitle
each reader to a free beer (or for those with bad hearts, a
nitroglycerin pill) at the expense of the perpetrator - though I imagine
the PSF team of lawyers retained for license enforcement may take up the
case on his side - money talks.
- As an aside, I should mention that I have countered the announced
licensing change with a patent application for the use of 3, 4, or 5
spaces as an indent for purposes of establishing a code block. I have
written a tidy little program that will count indent spaces in all
Python programs and expect to negotiate royalty settlements on a per
space basis ($.0001 per space proposed). Anyone who prefers to avoid a
call from my legal team can simply send me their source code for royalty
calculation, and provide a credit card or bank account number. Thanks.

EP

[walterbyrd]

Is this an April fool's joke?

Please post a link to the original article. Not just a post to a blog.

[Grant Edwards]

On 2006-04-01, walterbyrd <wa********@ina me.com> wrote:

Is this an April fool's joke?

Did you read the blog entry?

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