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is python more popular than coldfusion?

I realsie that is a very general question as one thing does not directly relate to the other. My issue is that I am ditching coldfusion due to there being next to no work for it, and I am thinking of taking on python as a second language to java in the hope of improving my resume.

Jul 18 '05 #1
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On Wed, 5 Jan 2005 19:59:21 +0800, worzel <as**@sdarta.co m> wrote:

is python more popular than coldfusion?
I don't know if Coldfusion _was_ ever more "popular" than Python, but
Python is definitely more "popular" _now_.

This might be of some help: http://www.tiobe.com/tpci.htm

I realsie that is a very general question as one thing does not directly
relate to the other. My issue is that I am ditching coldfusion due to there
being next to no work for it, and I am thinking of taking on python as a
second language to java in the hope of improving my resume.
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Jul 18 '05 #3
How seriuosly do folk take the TIOBE index? Is it a good way to ague what
you should be keeping up to speed with or just a 'vague' guide?

"Premshree Pillai" <pr************ **@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On Wed, 5 Jan 2005 19:59:21 +0800, worzel <as**@sdarta.co m> wrote:

is python more popular than coldfusion?


I don't know if Coldfusion _was_ ever more "popular" than Python, but
Python is definitely more "popular" _now_.

This might be of some help: http://www.tiobe.com/tpci.htm

I realsie that is a very general question as one thing does not directly
relate to the other. My issue is that I am ditching coldfusion due to
there
being next to no work for it, and I am thinking of taking on python as a
second language to java in the hope of improving my resume.
--
http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

--
Premshree Pillai
http://www.livejournal.com/~premshree

Jul 18 '05 #4
On Wed, 5 Jan 2005 21:09:54 +0800, worzel <as**@sdarta.co m> wrote:
How seriuosly do folk take the TIOBE index? Is it a good way to ague what
you should be keeping up to speed with or just a 'vague' guide?
I use the TIOBE index -- sometimes -- when I give presentations on
Python (and Ruby) to people who haven't heard of the languages.

The index is not something to be relied upon (take a look at the
calculation mechanism). However, more often than not, the indices
seems to reflect what *I* perceive the indices are in reality. So I
kinda use them.

The thing about introducing a "new" language to a bunch of folks used
to their "favorite" language is that they wouldn't care much for a
language it isn't popular, or if it isn't "growing in popularity".

Beyond these things, I don't think anybody uses the index. I mean I
wouldn't tell people to learn languages that hold the top position on
TIOBE ;).

"Premshree Pillai" <pr************ **@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:ma******** *************** *************** @python.org...
On Wed, 5 Jan 2005 19:59:21 +0800, worzel <as**@sdarta.co m> wrote:

is python more popular than coldfusion?


I don't know if Coldfusion _was_ ever more "popular" than Python, but
Python is definitely more "popular" _now_.

This might be of some help: http://www.tiobe.com/tpci.htm

I realsie that is a very general question as one thing does not directly
relate to the other. My issue is that I am ditching coldfusion due to
there
being next to no work for it, and I am thinking of taking on python as a
second language to java in the hope of improving my resume.
--
http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

--
Premshree Pillai
http://www.livejournal.com/~premshree


--
http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

--
Premshree Pillai
http://www.livejournal.com/~premshree
Jul 18 '05 #5
Wth respect to coldfusion, is there much doubt about the fact that Python is
a more prominent and important technology?

How is colfusion percieved by the Python community? Many people belive
coldfusion is becomeing irrelavant and is on its death bed - do Python folk
generally feel this way about it?

Thanks for your input on this by the way.

"Premshree Pillai" <pr************ **@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:ma******** *************** *************** @python.org...
On Wed, 5 Jan 2005 21:09:54 +0800, worzel <as**@sdarta.co m> wrote:
How seriuosly do folk take the TIOBE index? Is it a good way to ague what
you should be keeping up to speed with or just a 'vague' guide?


I use the TIOBE index -- sometimes -- when I give presentations on
Python (and Ruby) to people who haven't heard of the languages.

The index is not something to be relied upon (take a look at the
calculation mechanism). However, more often than not, the indices
seems to reflect what *I* perceive the indices are in reality. So I
kinda use them.

The thing about introducing a "new" language to a bunch of folks used
to their "favorite" language is that they wouldn't care much for a
language it isn't popular, or if it isn't "growing in popularity".

Beyond these things, I don't think anybody uses the index. I mean I
wouldn't tell people to learn languages that hold the top position on
TIOBE ;).

"Premshree Pillai" <pr************ **@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:ma******** *************** *************** @python.org...
> On Wed, 5 Jan 2005 19:59:21 +0800, worzel <as**@sdarta.co m> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> is python more popular than coldfusion?
>
> I don't know if Coldfusion _was_ ever more "popular" than Python, but
> Python is definitely more "popular" _now_.
>
> This might be of some help: http://www.tiobe.com/tpci.htm
>
>>
>> I realsie that is a very general question as one thing does not
>> directly
>> relate to the other. My issue is that I am ditching coldfusion due to
>> there
>> being next to no work for it, and I am thinking of taking on python as
>> a
>> second language to java in the hope of improving my resume.
>> --
>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Premshree Pillai
> http://www.livejournal.com/~premshree


--
http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

--
Premshree Pillai
http://www.livejournal.com/~premshree

Jul 18 '05 #6
On Wed, 5 Jan 2005 21:30:40 +0800, worzel <as**@sdarta.co m> wrote:
Wth respect to coldfusion, is there much doubt about the fact that Python is
a more prominent and important technology?
No doubt in my mind at least.

How is colfusion percieved by the Python community? Many people belive
coldfusion is becomeing irrelavant and is on its death bed - do Python folk
generally feel this way about it?
I have no much idea about Coldfusion, but as far as its *use* is
concerned, it definitely isn't much.

Thanks for your input on this by the way.

"Premshree Pillai" <pr************ **@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:ma******** *************** *************** @python.org...
On Wed, 5 Jan 2005 21:09:54 +0800, worzel <as**@sdarta.co m> wrote:
How seriuosly do folk take the TIOBE index? Is it a good way to ague what
you should be keeping up to speed with or just a 'vague' guide?


I use the TIOBE index -- sometimes -- when I give presentations on
Python (and Ruby) to people who haven't heard of the languages.

The index is not something to be relied upon (take a look at the
calculation mechanism). However, more often than not, the indices
seems to reflect what *I* perceive the indices are in reality. So I
kinda use them.

The thing about introducing a "new" language to a bunch of folks used
to their "favorite" language is that they wouldn't care much for a
language it isn't popular, or if it isn't "growing in popularity".

Beyond these things, I don't think anybody uses the index. I mean I
wouldn't tell people to learn languages that hold the top position on
TIOBE ;).

"Premshree Pillai" <pr************ **@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:ma******** *************** *************** @python.org...
> On Wed, 5 Jan 2005 19:59:21 +0800, worzel <as**@sdarta.co m> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> is python more popular than coldfusion?
>
> I don't know if Coldfusion _was_ ever more "popular" than Python, but
> Python is definitely more "popular" _now_.
>
> This might be of some help: http://www.tiobe.com/tpci.htm
>
>>
>> I realsie that is a very general question as one thing does not
>> directly
>> relate to the other. My issue is that I am ditching coldfusion due to
>> there
>> being next to no work for it, and I am thinking of taking on python as
>> a
>> second language to java in the hope of improving my resume.
>> --
>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Premshree Pillai
> http://www.livejournal.com/~premshree

--
http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

--
Premshree Pillai
http://www.livejournal.com/~premshree


--
http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

--
Premshree Pillai
http://www.livejournal.com/~premshree
Jul 18 '05 #7
thanks, thats pretty much what I expected to hear.

"Premshree Pillai" <pr************ **@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:ma******** *************** *************** @python.org...
On Wed, 5 Jan 2005 21:30:40 +0800, worzel <as**@sdarta.co m> wrote:
Wth respect to coldfusion, is there much doubt about the fact that Python
is
a more prominent and important technology?


No doubt in my mind at least.

How is colfusion percieved by the Python community? Many people belive
coldfusion is becomeing irrelavant and is on its death bed - do Python
folk
generally feel this way about it?


I have no much idea about Coldfusion, but as far as its *use* is
concerned, it definitely isn't much.

Thanks for your input on this by the way.

"Premshree Pillai" <pr************ **@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:ma******** *************** *************** @python.org...
> On Wed, 5 Jan 2005 21:09:54 +0800, worzel <as**@sdarta.co m> wrote:
>> How seriuosly do folk take the TIOBE index? Is it a good way to ague
>> what
>> you should be keeping up to speed with or just a 'vague' guide?
>
> I use the TIOBE index -- sometimes -- when I give presentations on
> Python (and Ruby) to people who haven't heard of the languages.
>
> The index is not something to be relied upon (take a look at the
> calculation mechanism). However, more often than not, the indices
> seems to reflect what *I* perceive the indices are in reality. So I
> kinda use them.
>
> The thing about introducing a "new" language to a bunch of folks used
> to their "favorite" language is that they wouldn't care much for a
> language it isn't popular, or if it isn't "growing in popularity".
>
> Beyond these things, I don't think anybody uses the index. I mean I
> wouldn't tell people to learn languages that hold the top position on
> TIOBE ;).
>
>>
>> "Premshree Pillai" <pr************ **@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:ma******** *************** *************** @python.org...
>> > On Wed, 5 Jan 2005 19:59:21 +0800, worzel <as**@sdarta.co m> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> is python more popular than coldfusion?
>> >
>> > I don't know if Coldfusion _was_ ever more "popular" than Python,
>> > but
>> > Python is definitely more "popular" _now_.
>> >
>> > This might be of some help: http://www.tiobe.com/tpci.htm
>> >
>> >>
>> >> I realsie that is a very general question as one thing does not
>> >> directly
>> >> relate to the other. My issue is that I am ditching coldfusion due
>> >> to
>> >> there
>> >> being next to no work for it, and I am thinking of taking on python
>> >> as
>> >> a
>> >> second language to java in the hope of improving my resume.
>> >> --
>> >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Premshree Pillai
>> > http://www.livejournal.com/~premshree
>>
>> --
>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
>>
>
>
> --
> Premshree Pillai
> http://www.livejournal.com/~premshree


--
http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

--
Premshree Pillai
http://www.livejournal.com/~premshree

Jul 18 '05 #8
>is python more popular than coldfusion?
I realsie that is a very general question as one thing does not directlyrelate to the other. My issue is that I am ditching coldfusion due to
there being next to no work for it, and I am thinking of taking on
python as a second language to java in the hope of improving my

resume.

For your specific purpose of learning a language to get a job, I
suggest visiting the site http://mshiltonj.com/sm/categories/languages/
, where it appears that Python is mentioned about as often as Fortran
or Ada in job listings at dice.com . Apart from Java, two languages in
demand are C++ and Visual Basic. C++ may be easier to learn along with
Java since the syntax is similar, but VB is a very easy language to
learn and use.

Jul 18 '05 #9
OTOH,

Here are the numbers for Average Salary by Languages Used (2 numbers,
staff and management) in ascending order from the 2004 Salary Survey
from Software Development Magazine. I am surprised that there is so
little variation across languages: 13 out of 22 are in the $81-$85K
range. But Python IS tied for first. This may indicate that the
relatively small number of jobs listing Python as a requirement is due
in part to a relatively small supply of Python programmers, not lack of
demand for such programmers.

Delphi/Object Pascal $76K $96K
Cobol $76K $95K
EDI $78K $98K
..NET $79K $98K
Oracle/SQL Server/Sybase/database $80K $100K
SAP/PeopleSoft/Oracle/ERP $81K $100K
C# $81K $100K
Perl/Javascript/PHP/scripting $81K $100K
Lotus Notes/groupware $82K $101K
Java $83K $102K
Fortran $83K $102K
C++ $84K $103K
JavaBeans/ActiveX/component $84K $101K
C $84K $104K
Ada $84K $105K
Biztalk/Crossworlds/bus. integration $84K $99K
SOAP $85K $103K
J2EE $85K $105K
CORBA/COM/middleware $87K $106K
J2ME $88K $104K
Python $89K $105K
Java messaging $89K $106K

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