I love the language. I love the community. My only complaint is that
Python for Windows is built with Visual Studio.
It is too difficult to build python, or a module, from source. This is
what open source is all about, isnt it? I even have a copy of visual
studio, and I still cant build modules from source, because my academic
copy is version 7. As a scientist funded by the NSF, I feel compelled to
do all my work using free software (I feel compelled to use free
software, regardless). And I feel compelled to contribute to the
scientific capabilities of my favorite programming language. But this
compiler issue is a big (and seemingly unnecessary) impediment. Will the
BDFL ever split with Visual Studio?
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Why not use ActiveState pythong then?
-Josh
On Thu, 19 Aug 2004 11:42:50 -0400, Darren Dale <dd**@cornell.e du> wrote: I love the language. I love the community. My only complaint is that
Python for Windows is built with Visual Studio.
It is too difficult to build python, or a module, from source. This is
what open source is all about, isnt it? I even have a copy of visual
studio, and I still cant build modules from source, because my academic
copy is version 7. As a scientist funded by the NSF, I feel compelled to
do all my work using free software (I feel compelled to use free
software, regardless). And I feel compelled to contribute to the
scientific capabilities of my favorite programming language. But this
compiler issue is a big (and seemingly unnecessary) impediment. Will the
BDFL ever split with Visual Studio?
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Darren Dale <dd**@cornell.e du> writes: I love the language. I love the community. My only complaint is that
Python for Windows is built with Visual Studio.
It is too difficult to build python, or a module, from source. This is
what open source is all about, isnt it? I even have a copy of visual
studio, and I still cant build modules from source, because my
academic copy is version 7. As a scientist funded by the NSF, I feel
compelled to do all my work using free software (I feel compelled to
use free software, regardless). And I feel compelled to contribute to
the scientific capabilities of my favorite programming language. But
this compiler issue is a big (and seemingly unnecessary)
impediment. Will the BDFL ever split with Visual Studio?
You can build modules using msys/mingw. Instructions can be found at http://sebsauvage.net/python/mingw.html
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Darren Dale wrote: I love the language. I love the community. My only complaint is that
Python for Windows is built with Visual Studio.
It is too difficult to build python, or a module, from source.
In all fairness this is more the problem with Microsoft than
python. If they had a free fully-featured compiler then Python
would be compiled with that.
Microsoft seems to have made some half-hearted attempt in
this direction so that is promising.
I know that there are other compilers for windows but their
market penetration is far less and thus expertise to use them
is hard to come by.
I myself am in a very similar position, have a hard time
deploying extension modules on windows. My usual workaround
is to have a second python available via cygwin where I can
compile everything then then use remote procedural calls
via XMPRPC to connect from the windows python. Clearly
this will work only in certain cases.
Istvan.
Darren Dale wrote: I love the language. I love the community. My only complaint is that
Python for Windows is built with Visual Studio.
It is too difficult to build python, or a module, from source. This is
what open source is all about, isnt it? I even have a copy of visual
studio, and I still cant build modules from source, because my academic
copy is version 7. As a scientist funded by the NSF, I feel compelled to
do all my work using free software (I feel compelled to use free
software, regardless). And I feel compelled to contribute to the
scientific capabilities of my favorite programming language. But this
compiler issue is a big (and seemingly unnecessary) impediment. Will the
BDFL ever split with Visual Studio?
I agree. I don't mind it being built with Visual Studio, but out of the
box mingw compatibility would be cool...
>>>>> "David" == David Fraser <da****@sjsoft. com> writes:
David> I agree. I don't mind it being built with Visual Studio,
David> but out of the box mingw compatibility would be cool... --
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The only thing that needs to be done for mingw compatibility is to
build the import lib, right? It would be nice if the win32 python
shipped with that; it's only 37K gzipped.
I have a batch script to create libpython23.a, for those who are
interested. It requires pexports-0.42h from http://starship.python.net/crew/kern...orts-0.42h.zip
extracted to C:\Program Files\pexports-0.42h, and of course mingw.
Your paths may vary...
copy c:\windows\syst em32\python23.d ll .
c:\progra~1\pex ports-0.42h\bin\pexpo rts python23.dll > python23.def
c:\MinGW\bin\dl ltool --dllname python23.dll --def python23.def --output-lib libpython23.a
copy libpython23.a c:\python23\lib s
del python23.dll
del libpython23.a
Istvan Albert schrieb: In all fairness this is more the problem with Microsoft than
python. If they had a free fully-featured compiler then Python
would be compiled with that.
Isn't the free Borland 5.5 compiler full featured?
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------------------------------------------------------------------- I have a batch script to create libpython23.a, for those who are
interested. It requires pexports-0.42h from
http://starship.python.net/crew/kern...orts-0.42h.zip
extracted to C:\Program Files\pexports-0.42h, and of course mingw.
I have successfully built libpython23.a using
implib.exe provided with the free Borland C/C++ command line
compiler package.
Once this is done, cygwin-gcc can be used to create
_native_ windows modules.
If someone is interested I'll try to collect the
necessary commands and flags from my Makefiles.
Ciao,
Dominic
Dominic wrote: I have successfully built libpython23.a using
implib.exe provided with the free Borland C/C++ command line
compiler package.
Once this is done, cygwin-gcc can be used to create
_native_ windows modules.
If someone is interested I'll try to collect the
necessary commands and flags from my Makefiles.
I'm interested. You should even make your copy of
libpython23.a downloadable too.
Istvan,
Istvan Albert wrote: Darren Dale wrote:
I love the language. I love the community. My only complaint is that
Python for Windows is built with Visual Studio.
It is too difficult to build python, or a module, from source.
In all fairness this is more the problem with Microsoft than
python. If they had a free fully-featured compiler then Python
would be compiled with that.
Microsoft seems to have made some half-hearted attempt in
this direction so that is promising.
There's a difference between free and open source. I agree that having
python compilable using a freely available open source compiler is important
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