Python Magazine exists! (was: Python intro questions)

[Mark]

Hi,

It seems a lot of people are not aware that a Python Magazine exists.
Visit:

http://www.pyzine.com

to see what we are publishing this quarter and check out our free
articles to see what
kind of articles we publish.

I'd like to repudiate once and for all the claim that:

"Nobody gets paid to write articles about Python"

We can't speak for other publishers/Magazines but this is certainly not
the case at Py.
Every quarter we pay for at least seven articles and quite frankly
would like to pay
for more. We also pay two great editors Kendall Clark and Eric-Peter
Germain to edit
all articles that we publish.

See our Writers Guidelines for more info:

http://www.pyzine.com/writefor.html

We'd also like to point out that our sister publication ZopeMag:

http://www.zopemag.com

publishes on average another 8 articles per quarter of which some are
the rough equivalents of Book Chapters (the parts of our SuperGuides).
Since Zope is written mostly in Python we would argue that much of the
content in ZopeMag are Python articles (but obviously with a focus on
Zope/Plone/CPS/Silva).

If you would like to see more Python articles and would like to support
the only Python
Magazine please consider subscribing.

Regards,

Mark

[Ognen Duzlevski]

Mark <ma**@pyzine.co m> wrote:

It seems a lot of people are not aware that a Python Magazine exists.
Visit: http://www.pyzine.com to see what we are publishing this quarter and check out our free
articles to see what
kind of articles we publish. I'd like to repudiate once and for all the claim that: "Nobody gets paid to write articles about Python"

Hi,

I went to see your magazine and it looks pretty nice. However, you do publish quarterly and in my humble opinion, a
yearly subscription of 49 Euros is crazy.

Ognen

[Mark]

Hello Ognen,

On Jun 25, 2004, at 10:35 AM, Ognen Duzlevski wrote:

I went to see your magazine and it looks pretty nice. However, you do
publish quarterly and in my humble opinion, a
yearly subscription of 49 Euros is crazy.

It all comes down to being able to pay the bills now doesn't it.

Unlike the "old Py" where authors we now have have significant
costs for editing and writing (and the occasional design work as well).

We refuse to run a Magazine where we can not compensate authors for
writing about Python.

We expect that for the next 1 to 2 years we will be publishing at a
loss (this
is based on our experience with ZopeMag) but that eventually we will
break
even and (oh god) maybe even make a modest profit. This would be
impossible
for us to do for less than 49 Euros.

But feel free to call us crazy! :-)

Cheers,

Mark

[Michel Claveau/Hamster]

Hi !

Interesting ; but how do, for to have :
- invoice (fiscal document in paper, obligatory in France)
- adress of supplier (fiscal information, obligatory in France)
- n° intracommunauta ire of TVA (fiscal information, obligatory in
France)
- information of customs (douane ?) (obligatory for purchase in a
foreign country)

Thank you
--
Michel Claveau

[Mark]

Hi,

The default payment for Py and/or ZopeMag is via Credit Card.

Our payment provider (WorldPay) generates a receipt for each transaction
but if you are interested in getting a subscription send me an email
(and not
this list) and I will make sure that you get a PDF invoice which meets
all
European requirements for payment either via Credit Card or Wire
Transfer.

Regards,

Mark

On Jun 25, 2004, at 1:31 PM, Michel Claveau/Hamster wrote:

Hi !

Interesting ; but how do, for to have :
- invoice (fiscal document in paper, obligatory in France)
- adress of supplier (fiscal information, obligatory in France)
- n° intracommunauta ire of TVA (fiscal information, obligatory in
France)
- information of customs (douane ?) (obligatory for purchase in a
foreign country)

Thank you
--
Michel Claveau

--
http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

[Tyler Eaves]

On Fri, 25 Jun 2004 11:08:47 -0400, Mark wrote:

We expect that for the next 1 to 2 years we will be publishing at a
loss (this
is based on our experience with ZopeMag) but that eventually we will
break
even and (oh god) maybe even make a modest profit. This would be
impossible
for us to do for less than 49 Euros.

But feel free to call us crazy! :-)

Cheers,

Mark

Here's the thing, 49 euros is, at current rates, $59.57. Sorry, but $15 an
issue is just too much for a magazine, especially since you don't actually
mail honest-to-goodness dead tree versions. Now, it the cost was more like
$20 a year, I might seriously consider it. It's a simple demand curve. If
hypothetically, you got 4 times as many subscriptions by cutting your
rates to 1/3rd of their present value (and I wouldn't say that isn't
possible, and it may even be conservative), you'd be better off doing so,
as your costs are basically fixed independent of the # of subscribers.

[Dan]

I have to agree with you. $61.42 is way TOO MUCH money just to access
a website for an online 'zine.
In all fairness, Ithere are some low volume (number or subscribers in
the hundreds to a few thousand) technical journals I subscribe to that
are around $20-$30 a year for quarterly in print journals mailed to me
with little advertising. I think Pyzine would get more subscribers if
they made their prices more reasonable.

Dan

Ognen Duzlevski <ma****@ukato.f reeshell.org> wrote in message news:> Hi,

I went to see your magazine and it looks pretty nice. However, you do publish quarterly and in my humble opinion, a
yearly subscription of 49 Euros is crazy.

Ognen

[Kamilche]

Ognen Duzlevski <ma****@ukato.f reeshell.org> wrote in message news:<cb******* ***@chessie.cir r.com>...

I went to see your magazine and it looks pretty nice. However, you do publish quarterly and in my humble opinion, a
yearly subscription of 49 Euros is crazy.

I agree. For an online magazine, $69/year seemed steep.

[Erik Max Francis]

Mark wrote:

We refuse to run a Magazine where we can not compensate authors for
writing about Python.

And if you charge too much, you won't get any subscribers, and you'll
end up not compensating the authors anyway.

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[Ognen Duzlevski]

Mark <ma**@pyzine.co m> wrote:

It all comes down to being able to pay the bills now doesn't it. We expect that for the next 1 to 2 years we will be publishing at a
loss (this
is based on our experience with ZopeMag) but that eventually we will
break
even and (oh god) maybe even make a modest profit. This would be
impossible
for us to do for less than 49 Euros. But feel free to call us crazy! :-)

Hi Mark,

I didn't mean "crazy" in a bad way. I was just comparing to some scientific journals and other professional journals I
am subscribed to. I do think that if the price went down - you would have more subscribers. I know I would consider it
for $20-25/year.

Cheers,
Ognen