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Hello,

I am trying to create threaded python project and I'm running into some
weird Python variable scoping.

I am using the "thread" module (I know, it's old and I should be using
threading)... but for example:

<code>
import thread
def extract_archive (session, user, archive, dest=None):
job_id = sunlib.job.new( ...)
def thread_extract_ archive():
if not os.path.exists( archive):
<...do stuff...>
if not os.path.isfile( archive):
<...do stuff...>
if dest == None:
dest = os.path.dirname (archive)
<...do more stuff...>
thread.start_ne w_thread(thread _extract_archiv e, ())
return job_id
</code>

It appears that thread_extract_ archive() inherits many of the variables
that are passed or defined in extract_archive (). I find this scary,
although very convenient because my thread process needs to reference a
number of items. The problem popped up when I added the "if dest ==
None" bit. Python barks that "dest" is an uninitialized variable.
That would make sense to me, but what I find odd is that
thread_extract_ archive() does not have any trouble accessing the
session, user, or archive variables. The only difference is that I
pass these variables to other functions (e.g. os.path.isfile) , and I am
doing a simple pythonic test on "dest."

What scares me is that my thread has access to extract_archive ()
variables, but only if I access them in a certain way.

Any thoughts? Is there a way to use the more improved "threading"
module and pass my thread the entire variable scope of the parent
process like I am able to do above?

Thanks,

Luxore.

Nov 10 '05 #1
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"Luxore" <al**********@g mail.com> wrote:
I am trying to create threaded python project and I'm running into some
weird Python variable scoping.
the "weird scoping" you're seeing has nothing to do with threads
(read on)
I am using the "thread" module (I know, it's old and I should be using
threading)... but for example:

<code>
import thread
def extract_archive (session, user, archive, dest=None):
job_id = sunlib.job.new( ...)
def thread_extract_ archive():
if not os.path.exists( archive):
<...do stuff...>
if not os.path.isfile( archive):
<...do stuff...>
if dest == None:
dest = os.path.dirname (archive)
<...do more stuff...>
thread.start_ne w_thread(thread _extract_archiv e, ())
return job_id
</code>

It appears that thread_extract_ archive() inherits many of the variables
that are passed or defined in extract_archive (). I find this scary,
although very convenient because my thread process needs to reference a
number of items. The problem popped up when I added the "if dest ==
None" bit. Python barks that "dest" is an uninitialized variable.
That would make sense to me, but what I find odd is that
thread_extract_ archive() does not have any trouble accessing the
session, user, or archive variables. The only difference is that I
pass these variables to other functions (e.g. os.path.isfile) , and I am
doing a simple pythonic test on "dest."


no, the difference is that you're assigning to "dest" in the inner function.
anything you assign to is considered to be a local variable:

http://docs.python.org/ref/naming.html

If a name is bound in a block, it is a local variable of that block.
If a name is bound at the module level, it is a global variable. /.../
If a variable is used in a code block but not defined there, it is a
free variable.

for more on nested scopes, read the above page carefully, and, if
you want even more details, this page:

http://www.python.org/peps/pep-0227.html

</F>

Nov 11 '05 #2

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