index not used?

[Dan Pelleg]

I'm trying to access a table with about 120M rows. It's a vertical version
of a table with 360 or so columns. The new columns are: original item col,
original item row, and the value.

I created an index:

CREATE INDEX idx on table (col, row)

however, selects are still very slow. It seems it still needs a sequential
scan:

EXPLAIN SELECT * FROM table WHERE col=1 AND row=10;
QUERY PLAN
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Seq Scan on table (cost=100000000 .00..102612533. 00 rows=1 width=14)
Filter: ((col = 1) AND ("row" = 10))

What am I doing wrong?

--
Dan Pelleg

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[Dan Pelleg]

Scott Marlowe writes:

On Wed, 2004-10-20 at 08:06, Dan Pelleg wrote:

I'm trying to access a table with about 120M rows. It's a vertical version
of a table with 360 or so columns. The new columns are: original item col,
original item row, and the value.

I created an index:

CREATE INDEX idx on table (col, row)

however, selects are still very slow. It seems it still needs a sequential
scan:

EXPLAIN SELECT * FROM table WHERE col=1 AND row=10;
QUERY PLAN
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Seq Scan on table (cost=100000000 .00..102612533. 00 rows=1 width=14)
Filter: ((col = 1) AND ("row" = 10))

What am I doing wrong?

What type are row and col? If they're bigint (i.e. not int / int4) then
you might need to quote the value to get the query to use an index:

SELECT * FROM table WHERE col='1' AND row='10';

also, have you vacuumed / analyzed the table? I'm assuming yes.

They're not bigints:

CREATE TABLE table (col int2, row integer, val double precision)

Yes, I vacuumed and analyzed, right after creating the index. Should I try
and issue a few queries beforehand?

--Dan

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[Scott Marlowe]

On Wed, 2004-10-20 at 08:06, Dan Pelleg wrote:

I'm trying to access a table with about 120M rows. It's a vertical version
of a table with 360 or so columns. The new columns are: original item col,
original item row, and the value.

I created an index:

CREATE INDEX idx on table (col, row)

however, selects are still very slow. It seems it still needs a sequential
scan:

EXPLAIN SELECT * FROM table WHERE col=1 AND row=10;
QUERY PLAN
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Seq Scan on table (cost=100000000 .00..102612533. 00 rows=1 width=14)
Filter: ((col = 1) AND ("row" = 10))

What am I doing wrong?

What type are row and col? If they're bigint (i.e. not int / int4) then
you might need to quote the value to get the query to use an index:

SELECT * FROM table WHERE col='1' AND row='10';

also, have you vacuumed / analyzed the table? I'm assuming yes.
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[Scott Marlowe]

On Wed, 2004-10-20 at 09:45, Dan Pelleg wrote:

Scott Marlowe writes:

> On Wed, 2004-10-20 at 08:06, Dan Pelleg wrote:

> > I'm trying to access a table with about 120M rows. It's a vertical version
> > of a table with 360 or so columns. The new columns are: original item col,
> > original item row, and the value.
> >
> > I created an index:
> >
> > CREATE INDEX idx on table (col, row)
> >
> > however, selects are still very slow. It seems it still needs a sequential
> > scan:
> >
> > EXPLAIN SELECT * FROM table WHERE col=1 AND row=10;
> > QUERY PLAN
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > Seq Scan on table (cost=100000000 .00..102612533. 00 rows=1 width=14)
> > Filter: ((col = 1) AND ("row" = 10))
> >
> > What am I doing wrong?

>
> What type are row and col? If they're bigint (i.e. not int / int4) then
> you might need to quote the value to get the query to use an index:
>
> SELECT * FROM table WHERE col='1' AND row='10';
>
> also, have you vacuumed / analyzed the table? I'm assuming yes.

They're not bigints:

CREATE TABLE table (col int2, row integer, val double precision)

Yes, I vacuumed and analyzed, right after creating the index. Should I try
and issue a few queries beforehand?

but one is an int2 (i.e. not int / int4) so you'll need to quote that
value to get an index to work. Note this is fixed in 8.0 I understand.
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[Dan Pelleg]

Scott Marlowe writes:

On Wed, 2004-10-20 at 09:45, Dan Pelleg wrote:

Scott Marlowe writes:

> On Wed, 2004-10-20 at 08:06, Dan Pelleg wrote:
> > I'm trying to access a table with about 120M rows. It's a vertical version
> > of a table with 360 or so columns. The new columns are: original item col,
> > original item row, and the value.
> >
> > I created an index:
> >
> > CREATE INDEX idx on table (col, row)
> >
> > however, selects are still very slow. It seems it still needs a sequential
> > scan:
> >
> > EXPLAIN SELECT * FROM table WHERE col=1 AND row=10;
> > QUERY PLAN
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > Seq Scan on table (cost=100000000 .00..102612533. 00 rows=1 width=14)
> > Filter: ((col = 1) AND ("row" = 10))
> >
> > What am I doing wrong?
>
> What type are row and col? If they're bigint (i.e. not int / int4) then
> you might need to quote the value to get the query to use an index:
>
> SELECT * FROM table WHERE col='1' AND row='10';
>
> also, have you vacuumed / analyzed the table? I'm assuming yes.

They're not bigints:

CREATE TABLE table (col int2, row integer, val double precision)

Yes, I vacuumed and analyzed, right after creating the index. Should I try
and issue a few queries beforehand?

but one is an int2 (i.e. not int / int4) so you'll need to quote that
value to get an index to work. Note this is fixed in 8.0 I understand.

Bingo.

=> explain select * from table where col='302' and row =100600400;
QUERY PLAN
---------------------------------------------------------------------
Index Scan using idx2 on table (cost=0.00..5.2 7 rows=1 width=14)
Index Cond: ((col = 302::smallint) AND ("row" = 100600400))
(2 rows)

=> explain select * from table where col=302 and row =100600400;
QUERY PLAN
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Seq Scan on table (cost=100000000 .00..102612533. 00 rows=1 width=14)
Filter: ((col = 302) AND ("row" = 100600400))
(2 rows)

Wow, that sure is a big difference for such a small "change" in the
query. Thank you very much!

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[Gaetano Mendola]

Scott Marlowe wrote:

On Wed, 2004-10-20 at 08:06, Dan Pelleg wrote:

I'm trying to access a table with about 120M rows. It's a vertical version
of a table with 360 or so columns. The new columns are: original item col,
original item row, and the value.

I created an index:

CREATE INDEX idx on table (col, row)

however, selects are still very slow. It seems it still needs a sequential
scan:

EXPLAIN SELECT * FROM table WHERE col=1 AND row=10;
QUERY PLAN
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Seq Scan on table (cost=100000000 .00..102612533. 00 rows=1 width=14)
Filter: ((col = 1) AND ("row" = 10))

What am I doing wrong?

What type are row and col? If they're bigint (i.e. not int / int4) then
you might need to quote the value to get the query to use an index:

SELECT * FROM table WHERE col='1' AND row='10';

also, have you vacuumed / analyzed the table? I'm assuming yes.

I assume not, seen that cost...
Regards
Gaetano Mendola

[Gaetano Mendola]

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Scott Marlowe wrote:
| On Fri, 2004-10-22 at 17:11, Gaetano Mendola wrote:
|
|>Scott Marlowe wrote:
|>
|>>On Wed, 2004-10-20 at 08:06, Dan Pelleg wrote:
|>>
|>>
|>>>I'm trying to access a table with about 120M rows. It's a vertical version
|>>>of a table with 360 or so columns. The new columns are: original item col,
|>>>original item row, and the value.
|>>>
|>>>I created an index:
|>>>
|>>>CREATE INDEX idx on table (col, row)
|>>>
|>>>however, selects are still very slow. It seems it still needs a sequential
|>>>scan:
|>>>
|>>>EXPLAIN SELECT * FROM table WHERE col=1 AND row=10;
|>>> QUERY PLAN
|>>>------------------------------------------------------------------------------
|>>>Seq Scan on table (cost=100000000 .00..102612533. 00 rows=1 width=14)
|>>> Filter: ((col = 1) AND ("row" = 10))
|>>>
|>>>What am I doing wrong?
|>>
|>>
|>>What type are row and col? If they're bigint (i.e. not int / int4) then
|>>you might need to quote the value to get the query to use an index:
|>>
|>>SELECT * FROM table WHERE col='1' AND row='10';
|>>
|>>also, have you vacuumed / analyzed the table? I'm assuming yes.
|>
|>I assume not, seen that cost...
|>
|
|
| Actually, that cost would likely be caused by set enable_seqscan = off
| wouldn't it?

That's true. This is the second time in these last days that I see someone "tune"
postgres setting enable_seqscan = off.
G.

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