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I've been working to become competent at making websites. My learning path
has been:

html -css- paintshop pro -javascript -php/mysql

I'm getting somewhat proficient at php/mysql (although I have plenty to
learn - I haven't even started on gd library) and want to think about my
next step.

Any suggestions?
XML and then AJAX?
PERL?
Some sort of vector drawing.paintin g to do logo's etc.?

Any advice appreciated.
Nov 13 '06 #1
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Mason wrote:
I've been working to become competent at making websites. My learning path
has been:

html -css- paintshop pro -javascript -php/mysql

I'm getting somewhat proficient at php/mysql (although I have plenty to
learn - I haven't even started on gd library) and want to think about my
next step.

Any suggestions?
XML and then AJAX?
PERL?
Some sort of vector drawing.paintin g to do logo's etc.?

Any advice appreciated.
Your path is dependent upon your destination.
Where do you want to go?

It looks like you're wanting to become proficient in
the fundamentals - so while PERL, AJAX, Java, etc
are all good things to know - you absolutely *must*
learn about XML.

It's worth pointing out that regular old HTML is
deprecated. It's obsolete. It's tech from an eon
gone by. XHTML is the new standard - more workable
with XML, XSLT, and XForms.
Nov 13 '06 #2
Sanders Kaufman wrote:
Mason wrote:
>I've been working to become competent at making websites. My learning
path has been:

html -css- paintshop pro -javascript -php/mysql

I'm getting somewhat proficient at php/mysql (although I have plenty
to learn - I haven't even started on gd library) and want to think
about my next step.

Any suggestions?
XML and then AJAX?
PERL?
Some sort of vector drawing.paintin g to do logo's etc.?

Any advice appreciated.


Your path is dependent upon your destination.
Where do you want to go?

It looks like you're wanting to become proficient in the fundamentals -
so while PERL, AJAX, Java, etc are all good things to know - you
absolutely *must* learn about XML.

It's worth pointing out that regular old HTML is deprecated. It's
obsolete. It's tech from an eon gone by. XHTML is the new standard -
more workable with XML, XSLT, and XForms.
Which will be very nice when the browsers learn how to get it right.

Hold it - they haven't even learned how to get plain old HTML right yet!

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Nov 13 '06 #3
Jerry Stuckle wrote:
Sanders Kaufman wrote:
>It's worth pointing out that regular old HTML is deprecated. It's
obsolete. It's tech from an eon gone by. XHTML is the new standard -
more workable with XML, XSLT, and XForms.

Which will be very nice when the browsers learn how to get it right.
Hold it - they haven't even learned how to get plain old HTML right yet!
You're right.
There's no sense in learning any technology because
all of them are imperfect.

F******g troll.
-PLONK-
Nov 13 '06 #4
..oO(Sanders Kaufman)
>It's worth pointing out that regular old HTML is
deprecated. It's obsolete.
No. It's still a perfectly valid technology.
It might even see a version 5.
>It's tech from an eon
gone by. XHTML is the new standard
IE doesn't support it.

Micha
Nov 13 '06 #5
Michael Fesser wrote:
.oO(Sanders Kaufman)
>It's worth pointing out that regular old HTML is
deprecated. It's obsolete.

No. It's still a perfectly valid technology.
So is steam power - but the question was "what's next?".

It might even see a version 5.
That's what XHTML v1.0 is.

>It's tech from an eon
gone by. XHTML is the new standard

IE doesn't support it.
ALL web browsers that support HTML3 support XHTML.

Nov 13 '06 #6
..oO(Sanders Kaufman)
>Michael Fesser wrote:
>It might even see a version 5.

That's what XHTML v1.0 is.
Reinventing HTML
http://dig.csail.mit.edu/breadcrumbs/node/166
>ALL web browsers that support HTML3 support XHTML.
IE only accepts it when you deliver it as text/html, but then it's no
XHTML anymore. It's written in an HTML-compatible syntax, it's delivered
as HTML and parsed as HTML.

If you really want to use XHTML in a proper way then you have to use the
correct content type application/xhtml+xml.

Micha
Nov 13 '06 #7
Michael Fesser wrote:
.oO(Sanders Kaufman)
>ALL web browsers that support HTML3 support XHTML.

IE only accepts it when you deliver it as text/html, but then it's no
That's because XHTML is text, and it is html.

XHTML anymore. It's written in an HTML-compatible syntax, it's delivered
as HTML and parsed as HTML.
And that's what makes it work.

If you really want to use XHTML in a proper way then you have to use the
correct content type application/xhtml+xml.
That's one way.
But one of the reasons it was developed was to
ensure that the web content can be deliverd in a
greater number of ways, and to a greater number of
clients... including and especially, HTML clients.
Nov 13 '06 #8
..oO(Sanders Kaufman)
>Michael Fesser wrote:
>IE only accepts it when you deliver it as text/html, but then it's no

That's because XHTML is text, and it is html.
XHTML can be much more than that, but not as text/html.
>XHTML anymore. It's written in an HTML-compatible syntax, it's delivered
as HTML and parsed as HTML.

And that's what makes it work.
Then there's no reason to use XHTML currently, simply because it doesn't
provide any benefits over HTML.

OTOH XHTML _does_ have its benefits, but only if it's interpreted as
such and not as HTML. This, as said, requires a modern browser.
>If you really want to use XHTML in a proper way then you have to use the
correct content type application/xhtml+xml.

That's one way.
But one of the reasons it was developed was to
ensure that the web content can be deliverd in a
greater number of ways, and to a greater number of
clients... including and especially, HTML clients.
Properly written HTML can do the same.

Micha
Nov 13 '06 #9
On Mon, 13 Nov 2006 23:06:02 GMT, Sanders Kaufman <bu***@kaufman. net>
wrote:
>Jerry Stuckle wrote:
>Sanders Kaufman wrote:
>>It's worth pointing out that regular old HTML is deprecated. It's
obsolete. It's tech from an eon gone by. XHTML is the new standard -
more workable with XML, XSLT, and XForms.

Which will be very nice when the browsers learn how to get it right.
Hold it - they haven't even learned how to get plain old HTML right yet!

You're right.
There's no sense in learning any technology because
all of them are imperfect.

F******g troll.
-PLONK-
What a stimulating discussion.

-PLONK-
Nov 14 '06 #10

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