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Big Bill wrote: http://www.promcars.co.uk/pages/bonnie.php
I don't believe they should be there, can I take them out without
stopping the includes from functioning? I'm the (hapless) optimiser on
this one... I have to correct where they've spelled my name wrong
too...sigh...
BB
Body tags (or any tags for that matter) have nothing to do with whether an
include functions or not.
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I'm a php newbie so take it with a grain of salt, but I put my body tag
in my header.inc file and functions perfectly. All that matters is
where the body tag ends up in the final generated HTML code.
--gary
"Big Bill" <kr***@cityscap e.co.uk> wrote: http://www.promcars.co.uk/pages/bonnie.php
I don't believe they should be there, can I take them out without
stopping the includes from functioning? I'm the (hapless) optimiser
on this one... I have to correct where they've spelled my name
wrong too...sigh...
Bill, look at it this way...
If every page has the same image at the top of the screen, the same
menu on the left of the screen, and then they have the same opening
<div class="maincont ent"> tag, the best way to handle this is how?
Furthermore, if they ALL have the same <link > tag including the
same CSS file, the same javascript include tags, why not create one
file and just include it after inserting the
<title>,
<meta name="keywords" ...
<meta name="descripti on" ...
and they all will contain the same things here, unless you dynamically
load the left menu, topmenu items, et al. And even then, the included
file could identify which page gets loaded, and dim out the appropriate
menu items.
</head>
<body><div id="topbanner"> ...</div>
<div id="leftmenu">. ..</div>
<div id="maincontent ">
tags. Furthermore, if each page reads it's keywords and description
and title from a database, you could configure it all inside one include
file, and use the page name/folder/or whatever to identify which record
to load and your whole presentation could come from a database.
Jim Carlock
Post replies to the group.
On Sat, 01 Apr 2006 05:14:54 GMT, "Jim Carlock" <an*******@127. 0.0.1>
wrote: "Big Bill" <kr***@cityscap e.co.uk> wrote: http://www.promcars.co.uk/pages/bonnie.php
I don't believe they should be there, can I take them out without
stopping the includes from functioning? I'm the (hapless) optimiser
on this one... I have to correct where they've spelled my name
wrong too...sigh...
Bill, look at it this way...
If every page has the same image at the top of the screen, the same
menu on the left of the screen, and then they have the same opening
<div class="maincont ent"> tag, the best way to handle this is how?
Furthermore, if they ALL have the same <link > tag including the
same CSS file, the same javascript include tags, why not create one
file and just include it after inserting the
<title>,
<meta name="keywords" ...
<meta name="descripti on" ...
and they all will contain the same things here, unless you dynamically
load the left menu, topmenu items, et al. And even then, the included
file could identify which page gets loaded, and dim out the appropriate
menu items.
</head>
<body><div id="topbanner"> ...</div>
<div id="leftmenu">. ..</div>
<div id="maincontent ">
tags. Furthermore, if each page reads it's keywords and description
and title from a database, you could configure it all inside one include
file, and use the page name/folder/or whatever to identify which record
to load and your whole presentation could come from a database.
Jim Carlock
Post replies to the group.
Perhaps I should have put "Multiple body tags in one page due to php
includes using them, one pair per include". Is that any clearer?
That's the problem the page has if you look at it, multiple instances
of the body tag. I don't believe they should be there as obviously an
include shouldn't need to be topped and tailed with a body tag if it's
one of several includes in an existing page with its own body tags
anyway.
BB
-- http://www.kruse.co.uk/seo-articles.htm http://www.here-be-posters.co.uk/mot...rs-sitemap.htm http://www.crystal-liaison.com/crystal-world/index.html
"Big Bill" <kr***@cityscap e.co.uk> wrote: Perhaps I should have put "Multiple body tags in one page
due to php includes using them, one pair per include". Is that
any clearer?
There's only supposed to be one <head> section and only one
<body> section in any document. Including more than one of
either/or (1) throws a browser into quirks mode, (2) creates an
invalid document, (3) makes debugging harder, (4) adds more
unnecessary content to the page, making the page bigger, which
in turn slows down the delivery of the page and (5) it serves no
purpose.
I see no reason for placing multiple <body> tags in any HTML
document.
Hope that helps.
Jim Carlock
Post replies to the group.
Big Bill wrote: On Sat, 01 Apr 2006 05:14:54 GMT, "Jim Carlock" <an*******@127. 0.0.1>
wrote:
"Big Bill" <kr***@cityscap e.co.uk> wrote:
http://www.promcars.co.uk/pages/bonnie.php
I don't believe they should be there, can I take them out without
stopping the includes from functioning? I'm the (hapless) optimiser
on this one... I have to correct where they've spelled my name
wrong too...sigh...
Bill, look at it this way...
If every page has the same image at the top of the screen, the same
menu on the left of the screen, and then they have the same opening
<div class="maincont ent"> tag, the best way to handle this is how?
Furthermore , if they ALL have the same <link > tag including the
same CSS file, the same javascript include tags, why not create one
file and just include it after inserting the
<title>,
<meta name="keywords" ...
<meta name="descripti on" ...
and they all will contain the same things here, unless you dynamically
load the left menu, topmenu items, et al. And even then, the included
file could identify which page gets loaded, and dim out the appropriate
menu items.
</head>
<body><div id="topbanner"> ...</div>
<div id="leftmenu">. ..</div>
<div id="maincontent ">
tags. Furthermore, if each page reads it's keywords and description
and title from a database, you could configure it all inside one include
file, and use the page name/folder/or whatever to identify which record
to load and your whole presentation could come from a database.
Jim Carlock
Post replies to the group.
Perhaps I should have put "Multiple body tags in one page due to php
includes using them, one pair per include". Is that any clearer?
That's the problem the page has if you look at it, multiple instances
of the body tag. I don't believe they should be there as obviously an
include shouldn't need to be topped and tailed with a body tag if it's
one of several includes in an existing page with its own body tags
anyway.
BB
Bill,
No, multiple <head> and <body> tags in a document are invalid.
include() effectively just does a "copy and paste" of the new file into the
existing one. So if both files have <body> tags then you end up with two <body>
tags, as you found.
And it's time to fire the idiots who places these tags in included files!
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Jerry Stuckle
JDS Computer Training Corp. js*******@attgl obal.net
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On Sat, 01 Apr 2006 08:31:49 GMT, "Jim Carlock" <an*******@127. 0.0.1>
wrote: "Big Bill" <kr***@cityscap e.co.uk> wrote: Perhaps I should have put "Multiple body tags in one page
due to php includes using them, one pair per include". Is that
any clearer?
There's only supposed to be one <head> section and only one
<body> section in any document. Including more than one of
either/or (1) throws a browser into quirks mode, (2) creates an
invalid document, (3) makes debugging harder, (4) adds more
unnecessary content to the page, making the page bigger, which
in turn slows down the delivery of the page and (5) it serves no
purpose.
I see no reason for placing multiple <body> tags in any HTML
document.
Me neither. I have to educate the webmaster, it seems.
BB
-- http://www.kruse.co.uk/seo-articles.htm http://www.here-be-posters.co.uk/mot...rs-sitemap.htm http://www.crystal-liaison.com/crystal-world/index.html
On Sat, 01 Apr 2006 08:45:38 -0500, Jerry Stuckle
<js*******@attg lobal.net> wrote: Perhaps I should have put "Multiple body tags in one page due to php
includes using them, one pair per include". Is that any clearer?
That's the problem the page has if you look at it, multiple instances
of the body tag. I don't believe they should be there as obviously an
include shouldn't need to be topped and tailed with a body tag if it's
one of several includes in an existing page with its own body tags
anyway.
BB
Bill,
No, multiple <head> and <body> tags in a document are invalid.
include() effectively just does a "copy and paste" of the new file into the
existing one. So if both files have <body> tags then you end up with two <body>
tags, as you found.
And it's time to fire the idiots who places these tags in included files!
Ah, little problem there, you see, it was he who suggested that I be
hired for the optimisation... he has done some stuff in the past I've
worked on that has had great visual appeal but he does need to be
pulled up on a few things.
BB
-- http://www.kruse.co.uk/seo-articles.htm http://www.here-be-posters.co.uk/mot...rs-sitemap.htm http://www.crystal-liaison.com/crystal-world/index.html
Me neither. I have to educate the webmaster, it seems.
I would be questing him as a web master if he is using multipal <body>
tags within his documents. Actually I would be running in the opposite
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http://www.promcars.co.uk/pages/rebecca.php
this is not the way it's supposed to be, is it... ok then for me just
to remove the body tags from the include files, it'll all work ok? I
don't know php and I'm working with a webmaster who, I suspect,
doesn't know it too well either.
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