PHP Output Help

[rik]

I was flicking through a PHP book (one of the teach in 24 hour ones)
and I came across something I had never seen before in PHP. It was a
method of printing out without using the print method, it was something
like :

<?= $myVar; ?>

Is this an out dated method? Is it compatible with all versions of PHP
(since implementation at least)?

Rick
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[Andy Hassall]

On 9 Aug 2005 07:40:53 -0700, "rik" <ri*******@e-connected.com> wrote:

I was flicking through a PHP book (one of the teach in 24 hour ones)
and I came across something I had never seen before in PHP. It was a
method of printing out without using the print method, it was something
like :

<?= $myVar; ?>

Is this an out dated method?
Well, it's deprecated, as it requires short_open_tags to be enabled.

You might have thought that <?php=$myVar? > would be the long tags equivalent,
but it doesn't work.
Is it compatible with all versions of PHP
(since implementation at least)?

As far as I know - certainly valid a long way back.

I believe it's partly there to make ASP programmers more comfortable when
migrating since ASP has <%=variable%> .

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[Will Woodhull]

It is the "shortcut syntax" for echo: see the manual at
http://us3.php.net/manual/en/function.echo.php
As others have noted, it's deprecated.

[R. Rajesh Jeba Anbiah]

Andy Hassall wrote:

On 9 Aug 2005 07:40:53 -0700, "rik" <ri*******@e-connected.com> wrote:

I was flicking through a PHP book (one of the teach in 24 hour ones)
and I came across something I had never seen before in PHP. It was a
method of printing out without using the print method, it was something
like :

<?= $myVar; ?>

Is this an out dated method?

Well, it's deprecated, as it requires short_open_tags to be enabled.

I dont' think, it's deprecated.

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[Will Woodhull]

R. Rajesh Jeba Anbiah wrote:

Andy Hassall wrote:

Well, it's deprecated, as it requires short_open_tags to be enabled.

I dont' think, it's deprecated.

Well you are right in that 'deprecated' is not used to describe short
tags in the documentation. They are instead described as something to
avoid since they will not validate in XHTML or XML and are no longer
supported in all PHP implementations . By inference, whatever value they
may have had back in the day is no longer sufficient to justify their
use in new code. This is the operative definition of 'to deprecate' (in
this context).

Since the shortcut form of "echo" requires short tags, it too is
something we should leave behind as PHP evolves.

[Chuck Anderson]

Will Woodhull wrote:

R. Rajesh Jeba Anbiah wrote:

Andy Hassall wrote:

Well, it's deprecated, as it requires short_open_tags to be enabled.

I dont' think, it's deprecated.

Well you are right in that 'deprecated' is not used to describe short
tags in the documentation. They are instead described as something to
avoid since they will not validate in XHTML or XML and are no longer
supported in all PHP implementations . By inference, whatever value they
may have had back in the day is no longer sufficient to justify their
use in new code. This is the operative definition of 'to deprecate' (in
this context).

Since the shortcut form of "echo" requires short tags, it too is
something we should leave behind as PHP evolves.

Awwwww crap! I hate this deprecation merry-go-round.

I've got short tags all over my scripts, as I started doing so in the
beginning. It looks a lot nicer and uses a lot less characters (looks
less busy). It's embedded into my personal style now (<? ?> and <?= ?>).

I suppose a quick and easy search and replace could fix it all up if I
ever have the need.

XML? What's XML? ô¿Ô¬

I haven't even begun to explore xml. My sites are all Php, MySQL, HTML,
CSS and JavaScript (and DHTML). It looks like I'll have to delve into it
eventually.

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[Chung Leong]

Why on earth would you want to run a PHP script through a XML
validator? If you ask me, being compliant with some standard just
because the standard is there is stupid.

[Simon Stienen]

On 2005-08-09 19-34-48 Will Woodhull <wi**@thornheng e.org> wrote:

They are instead described as something to
avoid since they will not validate in XHTML or XML

tbh, I don't care whether my PHP files validate against XHTML or XML as
long as their output does.

Regards,
Simon
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[Alvaro G Vicario]

*** Will Woodhull wrote/escribió (9 Aug 2005 10:34:48 -0700):

Well you are right in that 'deprecated' is not used to describe short
tags in the documentation. They are instead described as something to
avoid since they will not validate in XHTML or XML

Which is obviously right: PHP is not XHTML or XML.

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[rik]

I suppose the difference between ASP and PHP is that echo $var; is much
shorter than response.write var so there is less need to have a
shorthnd version of it.

Rick
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