Why is the Tooltip Bug Still not Fixed in VS2008?

[Charles Law]

I have to take this personally now. Tooltips have been flakey since the dawn
of .NET, but to still have to put up with a disappearing tooltip in VS 2008
is getting beyond a joke. Tooltips have always done this, so isn't it about
time they were fixed?

I have a tooltip that I assign to a button control on my form. I hover over
the button and up pops the tooltip. I move away and the tooltp fades. I
hover again, and back comes the tooltip. Great.

So now I click the button, and the next time I hover: no tooltip. Never to
be seen again. They did this in 2002, 2003 and 2005. And now 2008.

Does anyone have a workaround, or will I have to roll my own yet again?

Thanks for any help.

Charles

[Family Tree Mike]

The steps you outlined work fine for me. The tool tip shows up fine after
the process that the button executes is finished. I'm using VS 2008, C#, on
Vista, hold the mayo...
"Charles Law" <bl***@nowhere. comwrote in message
news:ui******** ******@TK2MSFTN GP04.phx.gbl...

>I have to take this personally now. Tooltips have been flakey since the
dawn of .NET, but to still have to put up with a disappearing tooltip in VS
2008 is getting beyond a joke. Tooltips have always done this, so isn't it
about time they were fixed?

I have a tooltip that I assign to a button control on my form. I hover
over the button and up pops the tooltip. I move away and the tooltp fades.
I hover again, and back comes the tooltip. Great.

So now I click the button, and the next time I hover: no tooltip. Never to
be seen again. They did this in 2002, 2003 and 2005. And now 2008.

Does anyone have a workaround, or will I have to roll my own yet again?

Thanks for any help.

Charles

[Charles Law]

Hi Mike

Thanks for the quick reply. I'm using VB in VS2008. I have a module level
variable

Private m_Tooltip As New Tooltip

and then in the Form_Load event:

With m_Tooltip
.SetToolTip(MyB utton, "My text.")
.ToolTipTitle = "My Title"
.ToolTipIcon = ToolTipIcon.Inf o
End With

I wave the mouse over the button and the tooltip appears. When I click the
button I can't get the tooltip again. Even if I click the button and slide
the mouse off, so the click event doesn't fire, I still lose the tooltip.

Charles
"Family Tree Mike" <Fa************ @ThisOldHouse.c omwrote in message
news:Ok******** ******@TK2MSFTN GP05.phx.gbl...

The steps you outlined work fine for me. The tool tip shows up fine after
the process that the button executes is finished. I'm using VS 2008, C#,
on Vista, hold the mayo...
"Charles Law" <bl***@nowhere. comwrote in message
news:ui******** ******@TK2MSFTN GP04.phx.gbl...

>>I have to take this personally now. Tooltips have been flakey since the
dawn of .NET, but to still have to put up with a disappearing tooltip in
VS 2008 is getting beyond a joke. Tooltips have always done this, so isn't
it about time they were fixed?

I have a tooltip that I assign to a button control on my form. I hover
over the button and up pops the tooltip. I move away and the tooltp
fades. I hover again, and back comes the tooltip. Great.

So now I click the button, and the next time I hover: no tooltip. Never
to be seen again. They did this in 2002, 2003 and 2005. And now 2008.

Does anyone have a workaround, or will I have to roll my own yet again?

Thanks for any help.

Charles

[GS]

I suspect most of us use a simpler tooltip
just set the mybutton.tootip property to whatever.. no tootiptitle used
I do have another tooptip for detailed info for the purpose of additonal
help at times. nonetheless never seem to have problem your described.
Window Xp, express vs 2005, 2008

"Charles Law" <bl***@nowhere. comwrote in message
news:Ox******** ******@TK2MSFTN GP02.phx.gbl...

Hi Mike

Thanks for the quick reply. I'm using VB in VS2008. I have a module level
variable

Private m_Tooltip As New Tooltip

and then in the Form_Load event:

With m_Tooltip
.SetToolTip(MyB utton, "My text.")
.ToolTipTitle = "My Title"
.ToolTipIcon = ToolTipIcon.Inf o
End With

I wave the mouse over the button and the tooltip appears. When I click the
button I can't get the tooltip again. Even if I click the button and slide
the mouse off, so the click event doesn't fire, I still lose the tooltip.

Charles
"Family Tree Mike" <Fa************ @ThisOldHouse.c omwrote in message
news:Ok******** ******@TK2MSFTN GP05.phx.gbl...

The steps you outlined work fine for me. The tool tip shows up fine

after

the process that the button executes is finished. I'm using VS 2008,

C#,

on Vista, hold the mayo...
"Charles Law" <bl***@nowhere. comwrote in message
news:ui******** ******@TK2MSFTN GP04.phx.gbl...

>I have to take this personally now. Tooltips have been flakey since the
dawn of .NET, but to still have to put up with a disappearing tooltip in
VS 2008 is getting beyond a joke. Tooltips have always done this, so

isn't

>it about time they were fixed?

I have a tooltip that I assign to a button control on my form. I hover
over the button and up pops the tooltip. I move away and the tooltp
fades. I hover again, and back comes the tooltip. Great.

So now I click the button, and the next time I hover: no tooltip. Never
to be seen again. They did this in 2002, 2003 and 2005. And now 2008.

Does anyone have a workaround, or will I have to roll my own yet again?

Thanks for any help.

Charles

[Family Tree Mike]

Your code works fine for me. The button click event shows a message box.
While the message box is visible, there are no tooltips on my form, which
makes sense, as the message box is modal. When I dismiss the message box,
the tool tip shows up upon hovering over the button.

Sorry, I don't know what to tell ya!

"Charles Law" <bl***@nowhere. comwrote in message
news:Ox******** ******@TK2MSFTN GP02.phx.gbl...

Hi Mike

Thanks for the quick reply. I'm using VB in VS2008. I have a module level
variable

Private m_Tooltip As New Tooltip

and then in the Form_Load event:

With m_Tooltip
.SetToolTip(MyB utton, "My text.")
.ToolTipTitle = "My Title"
.ToolTipIcon = ToolTipIcon.Inf o
End With

I wave the mouse over the button and the tooltip appears. When I click the
button I can't get the tooltip again. Even if I click the button and slide
the mouse off, so the click event doesn't fire, I still lose the tooltip.

Charles
"Family Tree Mike" <Fa************ @ThisOldHouse.c omwrote in message
news:Ok******** ******@TK2MSFTN GP05.phx.gbl...

>The steps you outlined work fine for me. The tool tip shows up fine
after the process that the button executes is finished. I'm using VS
2008, C#, on Vista, hold the mayo...
"Charles Law" <bl***@nowhere. comwrote in message
news:ui******* *******@TK2MSFT NGP04.phx.gbl.. .

>>>I have to take this personally now. Tooltips have been flakey since the
dawn of .NET, but to still have to put up with a disappearing tooltip in
VS 2008 is getting beyond a joke. Tooltips have always done this, so
isn't it about time they were fixed?

I have a tooltip that I assign to a button control on my form. I hover
over the button and up pops the tooltip. I move away and the tooltp
fades. I hover again, and back comes the tooltip. Great.

So now I click the button, and the next time I hover: no tooltip. Never
to be seen again. They did this in 2002, 2003 and 2005. And now 2008.

Does anyone have a workaround, or will I have to roll my own yet again?

Thanks for any help.

Charles

[Pavel Minaev]

"Charles Law" <bl***@nowhere. comwrote in message
news:ui******** ******@TK2MSFTN GP04.phx.gbl...

>I have to take this personally now. Tooltips have been flakey since the
dawn of .NET, but to still have to put up with a disappearing tooltip in VS
2008 is getting beyond a joke. Tooltips have always done this, so isn't it
about time they were fixed?

I would suggest you to report it as a bug to VS Connect. For one thing,
you'll find out whether other people can validate it or not. And if they
can, and it annoys a sufficiently large number of people, they'll vote for
its importance, which is more likely to draw Microsoft's attention in the
end.

[Charles Law]

Hi Pavel

Thanks, I might do that then.

Cheers

Charles
"Pavel Minaev" <in****@gmail.c omwrote in message
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"Charles Law" <bl***@nowhere. comwrote in message
news:ui******** ******@TK2MSFTN GP04.phx.gbl...

>>I have to take this personally now. Tooltips have been flakey since the
dawn of .NET, but to still have to put up with a disappearing tooltip in
VS 2008 is getting beyond a joke. Tooltips have always done this, so isn't
it about time they were fixed?

I would suggest you to report it as a bug to VS Connect. For one thing,
you'll find out whether other people can validate it or not. And if they
can, and it annoys a sufficiently large number of people, they'll vote for
its importance, which is more likely to draw Microsoft's attention in the
end.

[Charles Law]

It shouldn't, but does it matter that the form on which the button lives is
a modal form of a parent? When I ShowDialog for an instance of my child
form, I pass the parent as the owner.

Charles
"Family Tree Mike" <Fa************ @ThisOldHouse.c omwrote in message
news:uc******** ******@TK2MSFTN GP06.phx.gbl...

Your code works fine for me. The button click event shows a message box.
While the message box is visible, there are no tooltips on my form, which
makes sense, as the message box is modal. When I dismiss the message box,
the tool tip shows up upon hovering over the button.

Sorry, I don't know what to tell ya!

"Charles Law" <bl***@nowhere. comwrote in message
news:Ox******** ******@TK2MSFTN GP02.phx.gbl...

>Hi Mike

Thanks for the quick reply. I'm using VB in VS2008. I have a module level
variable

Private m_Tooltip As New Tooltip

and then in the Form_Load event:

With m_Tooltip
.SetToolTip(MyB utton, "My text.")
.ToolTipTitle = "My Title"
.ToolTipIcon = ToolTipIcon.Inf o
End With

I wave the mouse over the button and the tooltip appears. When I click
the button I can't get the tooltip again. Even if I click the button and
slide the mouse off, so the click event doesn't fire, I still lose the
tooltip.

Charles
"Family Tree Mike" <Fa************ @ThisOldHouse.c omwrote in message
news:Ok******* *******@TK2MSFT NGP05.phx.gbl.. .

>>The steps you outlined work fine for me. The tool tip shows up fine
after the process that the button executes is finished. I'm using VS
2008, C#, on Vista, hold the mayo...
"Charles Law" <bl***@nowhere. comwrote in message
news:ui****** ********@TK2MSF TNGP04.phx.gbl. ..
I have to take this personally now. Tooltips have been flakey since the
dawn of .NET, but to still have to put up with a disappearing tooltip in
VS 2008 is getting beyond a joke. Tooltips have always done this, so
isn't it about time they were fixed?

I have a tooltip that I assign to a button control on my form. I hover
over the button and up pops the tooltip. I move away and the tooltp
fades. I hover again, and back comes the tooltip. Great.

So now I click the button, and the next time I hover: no tooltip. Never
to be seen again. They did this in 2002, 2003 and 2005. And now 2008.

Does anyone have a workaround, or will I have to roll my own yet again?

Thanks for any help.

Charles

[Charles Law]

I would, but my System.Windows. Forms.Button doesn't have a Tooltip property.

Charles
"GS" <gs************ **********@msne ws.Nomail.comwr ote in message
news:eL******** ******@TK2MSFTN GP05.phx.gbl...

>I suspect most of us use a simpler tooltip
just set the mybutton.tootip property to whatever.. no tootiptitle used
I do have another tooptip for detailed info for the purpose of additonal
help at times. nonetheless never seem to have problem your described.
Window Xp, express vs 2005, 2008

"Charles Law" <bl***@nowhere. comwrote in message
news:Ox******** ******@TK2MSFTN GP02.phx.gbl...

>Hi Mike

Thanks for the quick reply. I'm using VB in VS2008. I have a module level
variable

Private m_Tooltip As New Tooltip

and then in the Form_Load event:

With m_Tooltip
.SetToolTip(MyB utton, "My text.")
.ToolTipTitle = "My Title"
.ToolTipIcon = ToolTipIcon.Inf o
End With

I wave the mouse over the button and the tooltip appears. When I click
the
button I can't get the tooltip again. Even if I click the button and
slide
the mouse off, so the click event doesn't fire, I still lose the tooltip.

Charles
"Family Tree Mike" <Fa************ @ThisOldHouse.c omwrote in message
news:Ok******* *******@TK2MSFT NGP05.phx.gbl.. .

The steps you outlined work fine for me. The tool tip shows up fine

after

the process that the button executes is finished. I'm using VS 2008,

C#,

on Vista, hold the mayo...
"Charles Law" <bl***@nowhere. comwrote in message
news:ui******** ******@TK2MSFTN GP04.phx.gbl...
I have to take this personally now. Tooltips have been flakey since the
dawn of .NET, but to still have to put up with a disappearing tooltip
in
VS 2008 is getting beyond a joke. Tooltips have always done this, so

isn't

>>it about time they were fixed?

I have a tooltip that I assign to a button control on my form. I hover
over the button and up pops the tooltip. I move away and the tooltp
fades. I hover again, and back comes the tooltip. Great.

So now I click the button, and the next time I hover: no tooltip.
Never
to be seen again. They did this in 2002, 2003 and 2005. And now 2008.

Does anyone have a workaround, or will I have to roll my own yet
again?

Thanks for any help.

Charles

[Family Tree Mike]

I believe that what GS is describing is the standard process of draging the
tooltip control onto your form. This gives an additional "ToolTip on
ToolTip1" property on each control on your form. I too have never set the
tooltip object inside my form, but rather do it from the properties in the
designer.

"Charles Law" <bl***@nowhere. comwrote in message
news:eZ******** ******@TK2MSFTN GP02.phx.gbl...

>I would, but my System.Windows. Forms.Button doesn't have a Tooltip
property.

Charles
"GS" <gs************ **********@msne ws.Nomail.comwr ote in message
news:eL******** ******@TK2MSFTN GP05.phx.gbl...

>>I suspect most of us use a simpler tooltip
just set the mybutton.tootip property to whatever.. no tootiptitle used
I do have another tooptip for detailed info for the purpose of additonal
help at times. nonetheless never seem to have problem your described.
Window Xp, express vs 2005, 2008

"Charles Law" <bl***@nowhere. comwrote in message
news:Ox******* *******@TK2MSFT NGP02.phx.gbl.. .

>>Hi Mike

Thanks for the quick reply. I'm using VB in VS2008. I have a module
level
variable

Private m_Tooltip As New Tooltip

and then in the Form_Load event:

With m_Tooltip
.SetToolTip(MyB utton, "My text.")
.ToolTipTitle = "My Title"
.ToolTipIcon = ToolTipIcon.Inf o
End With

I wave the mouse over the button and the tooltip appears. When I click
the
button I can't get the tooltip again. Even if I click the button and
slide
the mouse off, so the click event doesn't fire, I still lose the
tooltip.

Charles
"Family Tree Mike" <Fa************ @ThisOldHouse.c omwrote in message
news:Ok****** ********@TK2MSF TNGP05.phx.gbl. ..
The steps you outlined work fine for me. The tool tip shows up fine

after

>the process that the button executes is finished. I'm using VS 2008,

C#,

>on Vista, hold the mayo...
"Charles Law" <bl***@nowhere. comwrote in message
news:ui******* *******@TK2MSFT NGP04.phx.gbl.. .
I have to take this personally now. Tooltips have been flakey since
the
dawn of .NET, but to still have to put up with a disappearing tooltip
in
VS 2008 is getting beyond a joke. Tooltips have always done this, so

isn't

>>>it about time they were fixed?

I have a tooltip that I assign to a button control on my form. I
hover
over the button and up pops the tooltip. I move away and the tooltp
fades. I hover again, and back comes the tooltip. Great.

So now I click the button, and the next time I hover: no tooltip.
Never
to be seen again. They did this in 2002, 2003 and 2005. And now 2008.

Does anyone have a workaround, or will I have to roll my own yet
again?

Thanks for any help.

Charles