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I am trying to develop .NET programs because the development cycle is
multiple times faster.
But our clients complain that in order to use that, they have to install
..NET first and to do that they need to have administrator rights, so here
comes a lot of paperwork to get one of the IT's to come and install it for
them. (Company policy)

So I am beeing asked to drop .NET and start recreating the program avoiding
..NET and use MFC again.
This is not actually on my wishlist, since it takes 7 times more to do that
same thing.

Have other people problems with this too?
Jul 21 '05 #1
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Jay
Tell the IT people to get off their behinds and install the framework
If they are paying you by the hour then they will soon reap the benefits

Jay
Jul 21 '05 #2
Jay
Tell the IT people to get off their behinds and install the framework
If they are paying you by the hour then they will soon reap the benefits

Jay
Jul 21 '05 #3
> But our clients complain that in order to use that, they have to install
.NET first and to do that they need to have administrator rights, so here
comes a lot of paperwork to get one of the IT's to come and install it for
them. (Company policy)
Try to arrange meting with someone over IT's... it is not too difficult to
make .NET Framework minimal requirement on all machines. In all
companies I work for .NET Framework has same status like Service
Packs and Hot Fixes - MUST have. Just talk to the boss.
So I am beeing asked to drop .NET and start recreating the program avoiding .NET and use MFC again.
It sounds me like "Let's all drive bikes. We have too much paperwork if we
wish
to drive car."
This is not actually on my wishlist, since it takes 7 times more to do that same thing.

agree...

--

Pozdrav,
Josip Medved, MCSD
http://www.jmedved.com
Jul 21 '05 #4
> But our clients complain that in order to use that, they have to install
.NET first and to do that they need to have administrator rights, so here
comes a lot of paperwork to get one of the IT's to come and install it for
them. (Company policy)
Try to arrange meting with someone over IT's... it is not too difficult to
make .NET Framework minimal requirement on all machines. In all
companies I work for .NET Framework has same status like Service
Packs and Hot Fixes - MUST have. Just talk to the boss.
So I am beeing asked to drop .NET and start recreating the program avoiding .NET and use MFC again.
It sounds me like "Let's all drive bikes. We have too much paperwork if we
wish
to drive car."
This is not actually on my wishlist, since it takes 7 times more to do that same thing.

agree...

--

Pozdrav,
Josip Medved, MCSD
http://www.jmedved.com
Jul 21 '05 #5
> Tell the IT people to get off their behinds and install the framework.
If they are paying you by the hour then they will soon reap the benefits.


Very good said Jay

Cor
Jul 21 '05 #6
> Tell the IT people to get off their behinds and install the framework.
If they are paying you by the hour then they will soon reap the benefits.


Very good said Jay

Cor
Jul 21 '05 #7
I am also IT, so I have been installing .net on all the machines preparing
for the flood of .NET programs coming oit.
Try to arrange meting with someone over IT's... it is not too difficult to
make .NET Framework minimal requirement on all machines. In all
companies I work for .NET Framework has same status like Service
Packs and Hot Fixes - MUST have. Just talk to the boss.

The big problem is that it is the boss of other companies we try to sell our
software too.
It is the IT form those companies that complain. And in my opinion they
should not, since it is redicilious simple to install.

So,do people here have good arguments that could convince these people to
start installing .NET on all machines default?
One good point would that XP SP2 contains the .NET framework default, but so
far it is not.
So I am beeing asked to drop .NET and start recreating the program
avoiding .NET and use MFC again.


It sounds me like "Let's all drive bikes. We have too much paperwork if we
wish to drive car."

Yes just like that. In reality this means that I will need 7 months to
redesign the proram in VC++ unmanaged code with mfc to recreate the same
program. :-(
I would prefer to add 7 times more functionality to this program in that
same time period.

Jul 21 '05 #8
I am also IT, so I have been installing .net on all the machines preparing
for the flood of .NET programs coming oit.
Try to arrange meting with someone over IT's... it is not too difficult to
make .NET Framework minimal requirement on all machines. In all
companies I work for .NET Framework has same status like Service
Packs and Hot Fixes - MUST have. Just talk to the boss.

The big problem is that it is the boss of other companies we try to sell our
software too.
It is the IT form those companies that complain. And in my opinion they
should not, since it is redicilious simple to install.

So,do people here have good arguments that could convince these people to
start installing .NET on all machines default?
One good point would that XP SP2 contains the .NET framework default, but so
far it is not.
So I am beeing asked to drop .NET and start recreating the program
avoiding .NET and use MFC again.


It sounds me like "Let's all drive bikes. We have too much paperwork if we
wish to drive car."

Yes just like that. In reality this means that I will need 7 months to
redesign the proram in VC++ unmanaged code with mfc to recreate the same
program. :-(
I would prefer to add 7 times more functionality to this program in that
same time period.

Jul 21 '05 #9
> So,do people here have good arguments that could convince these people to
start installing .NET on all machines default?¸
only money... you can charge more for legacy (c++ or else) programs... it
worked
for me...
One good point would that XP SP2 contains the .NET framework default, but so far it is not.
I wait for that moment too...
It sounds me like "Let's all drive bikes. We have too much paperwork if we wish to drive car."

Yes just like that. In reality this means that I will need 7 months to
redesign the proram in VC++ unmanaged code with mfc to recreate the same
program. :-(


Get payed by hour...
Sad thing is that, if they have seen development speed with .NET, it will be
weird to them why it takes longer to make same program... :(

--

Pozdrav,
Josip Medved, MCSD
http://www.jmedved.com
Jul 21 '05 #10

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