There's an interesting interview with Gary Edwards, one of the
leaders of the team developing the Open Document Format (used in
StarOffice8, OpenOffice2, etc.) See: http://madpenguin.org/cms/html/62/5304.html
One comment Gary made was particularly bold:
"...OpenDocumen t is now before the ISO (International Standards
Organization) board for ratification. From there, there is no doubt
in my mind that OpenDocument is heading to the W3C for ratification
as the successor to HTML and XHTML."
Any comments/thoughts on this particular statement by Gary? And any
comments on the remainder of the interview?
Jon 4 1753
Jon wrote: There's an interesting interview with Gary Edwards, one of the leaders of the team developing the Open Document Format (used in StarOffice8, OpenOffice2, etc.) See:
http://madpenguin.org/cms/html/62/5304.html
One comment Gary made was particularly bold:
"...OpenDocumen t is now before the ISO (International Standards Organization) board for ratification. From there, there is no doubt in my mind that OpenDocument is heading to the W3C for ratification as the successor to HTML and XHTML."
Any comments/thoughts on this particular statement by Gary? And any comments on the remainder of the interview?
Jon
HAha, OpenDoment Format a successor of XHTML,
what makes him think that?
XHTML is a very new technology and it has to prove its power before we
can talk about succesors of xhtml.
On Thu, 13 Oct 2005 19:57:23 +0200, Tjerk Wolterink
<tj***@wolterin kwebdesign.com> wrote: Jon wrote:
"...OpenDocumen t is now before the ISO (International Standards Organization) board for ratification. From there, there is no doubt in my mind that OpenDocument is heading to the W3C for ratification as the successor to HTML and XHTML."
Any comments/thoughts on this particular statement
The smartest thing TB-L ever did when first drawing up HTML wasn't what
he put in, but what he left out. HTML is not usable as a document
transfer format. This has turned out to be an unbelievable good thing,
with hindsight. The rightness of this decision can be seen by M$oft's
attempts to push it the other way, whenever they try to pretend Word is
a HTML authoring tool.
If HTML _had_ been a document format, then it would have killed "the
web" stone dead. It would have stormed the global consciousness in just
the same way that TeX did. Your grandmother now buys knitting wool
online - now _that_ is a synergy between open protocol stacks and
device-independent rendering. This only happened because HTML sticks to
what it does and doesn't try to be a feature-bucket for every bloatware
application around.
XHTML is a very new technology
It's over 5 years old. How much longer do you need to wait?
Andy Dingley wrote: "...OpenDocumen t is now before the ISO (International Standards Organization) board for ratification. From there, there is no doubt in my mind that OpenDocument is heading to the W3C for ratification as the successor to HTML and XHTML."
Any comments/thoughts on this particular statement
I must say I found the Open Document format excessively complicated.
As far as I could see, to use it on my Linux laptop
requires either OpenOffice or KOffice;
OpenOffice is effectively unuseable on my machine,
while I have not yet worked out what KOffice is exactly,
or how to run it.
(There does not appear to be an application called koffice on Fedora-4,
although there are innumerable koffice* RPMs.)
If HTML _had_ been a document format, then it would have killed "the web" stone dead. It would have stormed the global consciousness in just the same way that TeX did. Your grandmother now buys knitting wool online - now _that_ is a synergy between open protocol stacks and device-independent rendering. This only happened because HTML sticks to what it does and doesn't try to be a feature-bucket for every bloatware application around.
While I agree with your conclusion, your remark seems very unfair to TeX,
which succeeds for precisely the same reason as HTML,
namely that it just does what it says on the tin,
and does not eg try to include graphics as many pressed Knuth to do.
--
Timothy Murphy
e-mail (<80k only): tim /at/ birdsnest.maths .tcd.ie
tel: +353-86-2336090, +353-1-2842366
s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland
Andy Dingley wrote: The smartest thing TB-L ever did when first drawing up HTML wasn't what he put in, but what he left out. HTML is not usable as a document transfer format.
Actually it can be -- just. Not very usefully, but for an interim period
[between the slow demise of early attempts to get arbitrary SGML onto the
Web (eg Panorama) and the appearance of XML] it had its uses, and it was
better than some of the alternatives :-)
This has turned out to be an unbelievable good thing, with hindsight. The rightness of this decision can be seen by M$oft's attempts to push it the other way, whenever they try to pretend Word is a HTML authoring tool.
If HTML _had_ been a document format, then it would have killed "the web" stone dead. It would have stormed the global consciousness in just the same way that TeX did.
Interestingly, LaTeX and ConTeXt have been having a growth period, as
people discover they make excellent batch formatting tools for text
converted out of XML via XSLT, as an alternative to XSL for making PDFs.
Your grandmother now buys knitting wool online - now _that_ is a synergy between open protocol stacks and device-independent rendering. This only happened because HTML sticks to what it does and doesn't try to be a feature-bucket for every bloatware application around.
It took a lot of battering, though, trying to prevent interested parties
adding hundreds of extra meaningless elements. When you have a few spare
minutes, browse the logs of the IETF HTML WG which are preserved for
posterity at https://listserv.heanet.ie/html-wg.html XHTML is a very new technology
It's over 5 years old. How much longer do you need to wait?
XHTML will probably go the same way as HTML. Useful for displaying stuff
in browsers, but long-term not a sensible format for storing documents.
///Peter
--
XML FAQ: http://xml.silmaril.ie/ This thread has been closed and replies have been disabled. Please start a new discussion. Similar topics |
by: mike |
last post by:
regards:
Is it possible to use java XML api to translate
a HTML document into a XHTML document(mobile profile)
thank you
best wishes
|
by: mike |
last post by:
Is there any way I can change the content type when I open a new window
other than opening a script in the open statement?
mywin =
window.open('','rpt','width=600,height=425,top=50,left=0,scrollbars=yes,toolbar=yes,resizable=yes,dependent=no');
mywin.document.write("Content-type:image/svg+xml");
In this example I would be changing the content type to svg.
|
by: Matt Kruse |
last post by:
http://www.JavascriptToolbox.com/bestpractices/
I started writing this up as a guide for some people who were looking for
general tips on how to do things the 'right way' with Javascript. Their code
was littered with document.all and eval, for example, and I wanted to create
a practical list of best practices that they could easily put to use.
The above URL is version 1.0 (draft) that resulted. IMO, it is not a
replacement for the FAQ,...
|
by: Gary |
last post by:
Hi, there,
1. I would like to open a word document in a MDI environment. Every time, a new window outside my MDI poped out and show the word document. Is there a method I can use to specify the showing window? And how to?
2. Is there a way to preview the word document, other than load it fully?
3. How to extract all the characters in Unicode from this word document?
Thanks lot in advance!
Gary
|
by: Jana |
last post by:
Is there an XML-editor that can assist you in marking up the data in an
urformatted text document, such that you mark the data and then
right-click to access the Schema you have assigned, and choose the
tag/attribute in the tree-structure, which then magically appears with
your data enclosed? There must be, right?
My assignment is to bring order to a truckload of stats from various
Athletics events. For individual meetings, the...
| |
by: Michael Powe |
last post by:
How can I make an XHTML-compliant form of an expression in this
format:
document.write("<scr"+"ipt type='text/javascript' src='path/to/file.js'>"+"</scr"+"ipt>");
this turns out to be a non-trivial exercise. inserting '<' and
'>' causes the browser to write the text to the page as literal
text rather than as the intended script element. Using escape codes
seemed to work (makes it standard compliant) but the text is not
written to...
|
by: James Black |
last post by:
It appears that this is actually a difference between whether to use
DOM2 or DOM1.
I am trying to write my programs using XHTML for the webpage, but, I
have to use DOM2 for xhtml 1.1.
Now, how much of a problem will this be for browser compatibility?
I am using a php script to change the mime type to be correct, either
application/xhtml+xml for Mozilla based browsers, and html for the
|
by: SMH |
last post by:
Normally an SVG document is loaded/parsed/interpreted inside an HTML
document using an 'object' (or 'embed') element, although there are
supposedly other ways too. The problem is, the SVG document must be
static this way.
I want to use the DOM interface to build SVG dynamically inside an HTML
document. I am guessing I can build it inside HTML within an 'object' (or
maybe 'iframe'?) element.
My intentions/goals:
|
by: Hystou |
last post by:
Most computers default to English, but sometimes we require a different language, especially when relocating. Forgot to request a specific language before your computer shipped? No problem! You can effortlessly switch the default language on Windows 10 without reinstalling. I'll walk you through it.
First, let's disable language synchronization. With a Microsoft account, language settings sync across devices. To prevent any complications,...
|
by: Oralloy |
last post by:
Hello folks,
I am unable to find appropriate documentation on the type promotion of bit-fields when using the generalised comparison operator "<=>".
The problem is that using the GNU compilers, it seems that the internal comparison operator "<=>" tries to promote arguments from unsigned to signed.
This is as boiled down as I can make it.
Here is my compilation command:
g++-12 -std=c++20 -Wnarrowing bit_field.cpp
Here is the code in...
|
by: jinu1996 |
last post by:
In today's digital age, having a compelling online presence is paramount for businesses aiming to thrive in a competitive landscape. At the heart of this digital strategy lies an intricately woven tapestry of website design and digital marketing. It's not merely about having a website; it's about crafting an immersive digital experience that captivates audiences and drives business growth.
The Art of Business Website Design
Your website is...
| |
by: tracyyun |
last post by:
Dear forum friends,
With the development of smart home technology, a variety of wireless communication protocols have appeared on the market, such as Zigbee, Z-Wave, Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, etc. Each protocol has its own unique characteristics and advantages, but as a user who is planning to build a smart home system, I am a bit confused by the choice of these technologies. I'm particularly interested in Zigbee because I've heard it does some...
|
by: agi2029 |
last post by:
Let's talk about the concept of autonomous AI software engineers and no-code agents. These AIs are designed to manage the entire lifecycle of a software development project—planning, coding, testing, and deployment—without human intervention. Imagine an AI that can take a project description, break it down, write the code, debug it, and then launch it, all on its own....
Now, this would greatly impact the work of software developers. The idea...
|
by: conductexam |
last post by:
I have .net C# application in which I am extracting data from word file and save it in database particularly. To store word all data as it is I am converting the whole word file firstly in HTML and then checking html paragraph one by one.
At the time of converting from word file to html my equations which are in the word document file was convert into image.
Globals.ThisAddIn.Application.ActiveDocument.Select();...
|
by: adsilva |
last post by:
A Windows Forms form does not have the event Unload, like VB6. What one acts like?
|
by: 6302768590 |
last post by:
Hai team
i want code for transfer the data from one system to another through IP address by using C# our system has to for every 5mins then we have to update the data what the data is updated we have to send another system
|
by: bsmnconsultancy |
last post by:
In today's digital era, a well-designed website is crucial for businesses looking to succeed. Whether you're a small business owner or a large corporation in Toronto, having a strong online presence can significantly impact your brand's success. BSMN Consultancy, a leader in Website Development in Toronto offers valuable insights into creating effective websites that not only look great but also perform exceptionally well. In this comprehensive...
| |