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sasuke <da*********@gm ail.comwrites:
On Oct 10, 9:07*pm, Lasse Reichstein Nielsen <lrn.unr...@gma il.com>
wrote:
>> [snip]
A closure is a piece of code together with a binding of values to the free variables of that code.
A free variable is one that occur in the code, but is not declared there.
So does it mean that even global variables in Javascript are `free
variables' given the fact that they can be used without being declared
or is it that the definition is a loose one?
I variable is not inherently free or not. A variable occurence in a
part of a program, e.g., function declaration, is free in that
function if the function doesn't contain a declaration of that variable.
Example:
function foo(x) {
return function(y) {
alert(x+y);
}
}
This entire function has only one free variable: "alert".
The variable occurences "x" and "y" are bound by the argument
declarations of the surrounding functions.
The inner function:
function(y) { alert(x+y); }
has two free variables: "alert" and "x".
Notice that the same occurence of "x" can be both free and bound
depending on the scope one consider.
Also, given the function:
---------------------------------->B--------------------------
function attachEvents() {
var divs = document.getEle mentsByTagName( "DIV");
if(!divs) return;
for(var i = 0, maxI = divs.length; i < maxI; ++i) {
var d = divs[i];
d.onclick = function() {
// some complicated processing with a lot of variables
alert("Hello from " + d.id);
}
}
}
window.onload = function() {
attachEvents();
// something complicated
attachEvents();
}
---------------------------------->B--------------------------
Will the second invocation of the function `attachEvents' make the
execution context of the first run along with the previously created
function objects eligible for garbage collection or do they need to be
explicitly grounded [set to null]?
That depends entirely on the javascript implementation.
Best case, nothing remains and the garbage collector claims it all.
Worst case, the garbage collector barfs on the DOM->JS function->DOM
dependencies and collects nothing. That's a memory leak. I believe
IE 6 might do just that.
/L
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On Oct 13, 1:14*pm, sasuke <database...@gm ail.comwrote:
On Oct 10, 9:07*pm, Lasse Reichstein Nielsen <lrn.unr...@gma il.com>
wrote:
[snip]
A closure is a piece of code together with a binding of values to the
free variables of that code.
A free variable is one that occur in the code, but is not declared
there.
So does it mean that even global variables in Javascript are `free
variables' given the fact that they can be used without being declared
or is it that the definition is a loose one?
The term "free variable" (as defined here) could be used to describe
global variables that are referenced within functions. Regardless,
global variables are not part of the binding described in the closure
definition.
>
Also, given the function:
---------------------------------->B--------------------------
function attachEvents() {
* var divs = document.getEle mentsByTagName( "DIV");
Inefficient. Use the collection itself.
* if(!divs) return;
You don't need to do that with gEBTN.
* for(var i = 0, maxI = divs.length; i < maxI; ++i) {
Inefficient. Use a while that counts down to 0.
* * var d = divs[i];
* * d.onclick = function() {
* * * // some complicated processing with a lot of variables
* * * alert("Hello from " + d.id);
* * }
* }}
You are leaking memory. Every one of these creates this chain:
[DOM element X] ---onclick---[anon function] ---[variable object]
---[DOM element A]
You forgot to set divs to null too. Same issue.
Unfortunately, your design doesn't allow you to set d to null.
function attachEvents() {
var el, index = document.getEle mentsByTagName( 'div').length;
while (index--) {
el = document.getEle mentsByTagName( 'div')[index];
el.onclick = (function(id) {
return function() { alert('Hello from ' + id); };
})(el.id);
}
el = null;
}
Or better yet, attach one listener and use delegation.
On Oct 13, 2:56*pm, David Mark <dmark.cins...@ gmail.comwrote:
On Oct 13, 1:14*pm, sasuke <database...@gm ail.comwrote:
[snip]
---[DOM element A]
Typo. Should be X of course (not A.) The whole point is that it is a
circular reference.
On Oct 13, 8:56*pm, David Mark <dmark.cins...@ gmail.comwrote:
>
function attachEvents() {
* var el, index = document.getEle mentsByTagName( 'div').length;
* while (index--) {
* * *el = document.getEle mentsByTagName( 'div')[index];
* * *el.onclick = (function(id) {
* * * * return function() { alert('Hello from ' + id); };
* * *})(el.id);
* }
* el = null;
}
function attachEvents () {
var divs= document.getEle mentsByTagName( 'div'),
f= function (event) { alert(this.id) },
index= divs.length;
while (index--) { divs[index].onclick= f }
}
--
Jorge.
On Oct 14, 10:00*am, Jorge <jo...@jorgecha morro.comwrote:
On Oct 13, 8:56*pm, David Mark <dmark.cins...@ gmail.comwrote:
function attachEvents() {
* var el, index = document.getEle mentsByTagName( 'div').length;
* while (index--) {
* * *el = document.getEle mentsByTagName( 'div')[index];
* * *el.onclick = (function(id) {
* * * * return function() { alert('Hello from ' + id); };
* * *})(el.id);
* }
* el = null;
}
function attachEvents () {
* var divs= document.getEle mentsByTagName( 'div'),
* f= function (event) { alert(this.id) },
* index= divs.length;
* while (index--) { divs[index].onclick= f }
}
It is pointless to rewrite this pattern (diminishing returns.) A
single listener should be used.
On Oct 14, 10:00*am, Jorge <jo...@jorgecha morro.comwrote:
On Oct 13, 8:56*pm, David Mark <dmark.cins...@ gmail.comwrote:
function attachEvents() {
* var el, index = document.getEle mentsByTagName( 'div').length;
* while (index--) {
* * *el = document.getEle mentsByTagName( 'div')[index];
* * *el.onclick = (function(id) {
* * * * return function() { alert('Hello from ' + id); };
* * *})(el.id);
* }
* el = null;
}
function attachEvents () {
* var divs= document.getEle mentsByTagName( 'div'),
* f= function (event) { alert(this.id) },
* index= divs.length;
* while (index--) { divs[index].onclick= f }
}
Oops, forgot to mention that this will leak memory in IE.
[divs]->[DOM node]->[f]->[variable object]->[divs]
Add divs = null to break the chain at the end (of course.)
See the link posted previously.
David Mark <dm***********@ gmail.comwrites :
On Oct 14, 7:16*am, Conrad Lender <crlen...@yahoo .comwrote:
>[second attempt; the first didn't show up for some reason]
On 2008-10-13 20:56, David Mark wrote:
function attachEvents() {
* var el, index = document.getEle mentsByTagName( 'div').length;
* while (index--) {
* * *el = document.getEle mentsByTagName( 'div')[index];
Are you suggesting that calling getElementsByTa gName() in a loop is more efficient than storing a reference to the collection in a variable, and
Yes. Browsers optimize for that pattern.
Do you have any references for that? It sounds likely that they do
something smart, but I find it unlikely that it will be faster
to call a function to return the same value again than just looking
it up in a local variable.
Nonsense. Opera has a long article on their site about this.
Link?
/L
--
Lasse Reichstein Holst Nielsen
DHTML Death Colors: <URL:http://www.infimum.dk/HTML/rasterTriangleD OM.html>
'Faith without judgement merely degrades the spirit divine.'
On Oct 14, 6:32*pm, Lasse Reichstein Nielsen <lrn.unr...@gma il.com>
wrote:
David Mark <dmark.cins...@ gmail.comwrites :
On Oct 14, 7:16*am, Conrad Lender <crlen...@yahoo .comwrote:
[second attempt; the first didn't show up for some reason]
On 2008-10-13 20:56, David Mark wrote:
function attachEvents() {
* var el, index = document.getEle mentsByTagName( 'div').length;
* while (index--) {
* * *el = document.getEle mentsByTagName( 'div')[index];
Are you suggesting that calling getElementsByTa gName() in a loop is more
efficient than storing a reference to the collection in a variable, and
Yes. *Browsers optimize for that pattern.
Do you have any references for that? It sounds likely that they do
I have been trying to dig it up myself.
something smart, but I find it unlikely that it will be faster
Thanks for that, but it is possible that I did something dumb in this
case. The fact that I can't find the article is not encouraging.
to call a function to return the same value again than just looking
it up in a local variable.
Well, define looking it up in a local variable when the local variable
is a reference to a live nodelist? I can't as I don't write browsers.
>
Nonsense. *Opera has a long article on their site about this.
Link?
Not on Opera from what I can see.
On 2008-10-14 23:42, David Mark wrote:
function attachEvents() {
var el, index = document.getEle mentsByTagName( 'div').length;
while (index--) {
el = document.getEle mentsByTagName( 'div')[index];
Are you suggesting that calling getElementsByTa gName() in a loop is more efficient than storing a reference to the collection in a variable, and
Yes. Browsers optimize for that pattern.
I would also like to see a source for that.
>using the variable in the loop? I doubt that, and some preliminary
Doubt it all you want.
>testing shows that your recommendation is consistently slower than sasuke's; in some implementations (Opera, Safari) even by a factor of 4.
Nonsense. Opera has a long article on their site about this.
Well. Here I am, having tested this in 5 current browsers (not
comprehensive, yes, but as I said, they were preliminary tests), and
here you are saying "nonsense". Is that all you've got?
- Conrad
On Oct 14, 6:54*pm, Conrad Lender <crlen...@yahoo .comwrote:
On 2008-10-14 23:42, David Mark wrote:
function attachEvents() {
* var el, index = document.getEle mentsByTagName( 'div').length;
* while (index--) {
* * *el = document.getEle mentsByTagName( 'div')[index];
Are you suggesting that calling getElementsByTa gName() in a loop is more
efficient than storing a reference to the collection in a variable, and
Yes. *Browsers optimize for that pattern.
I would also like to see a source for that.
using the variable in the loop? I doubt that, and some preliminary
Doubt it all you want.
testing shows that your recommendation is consistently slower than
sasuke's; in some implementations (Opera, Safari) even by a factor of 4.
Nonsense. *Opera has a long article on their site about this.
Well. Here I am, having tested this in 5 current browsers (not
Yes, there you are. Your testing has been previously proven suspect.
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