Recommend Tutorial or Book

[Tim Johnson]

I'm an experienced programmer, but new to Javascript.
For OOP: python and C++ backgrounds, among others

I have one book on js - (Javascript Application Cookbook).

I'd welcome further recommendations .
1)Small "recipes"
2)Object models
3)Examples
4)Tutorials appropriate for JS Newbie but 'old' coder.
5)Browser gotchas
...etc, etc.
thanks
tim

[Richard Cornford]

Tim Johnson wrote:

I'm an experienced programmer, but new to Javascript.
For OOP: python and C++ backgrounds, among others

I have one book on js - (Javascript Application Cookbook).
There are no good javascript books, and most are actively harmful. The
least bad javascript book is David Flanagan's "JavaScript : The
Definitive Guide" (O'Reilly), and it is so far superior to all
alternatives that it is the only javascript book that it is possible to
recommend at all.
I'd welcome further recommendations .
1)Small "recipes"
Cookbooks and 'recipes' are the wrong strategy for tackling learning
javascript.
2)Object models
The W3C's web site, and specifically the documentation for the Level 2
DOM standards.

Do acquire a copy of ECMA 262 (the standard for javascript
implementations )

<URL:
http://www.ecma-international.org/pu...s/Ecma-262.htm >
3)Examples
Reading this group, and its archives. Identify the regular contributors
who appear to know what they are talking about and look at their more
complete posted examples.
4)Tutorials appropriate for JS Newbie but 'old' coder.
I am yet to see a good online tutorial.

There are many interesting articles on specific aspects of javascript.
5)Browser gotchas
...etc, etc.

Web browsers are user-configurable software. They vary in the host
object model they provide, between each other and there own versions,
and while the more modern ones move towards the adoption of the W3C DOM
standards, their implementations are more or less complete and correct.
There are always more browsers (including scriptable browsers) than any
individual is aware of. Which, taken together, mean that a web browser
script for the public internet is written without any foreknowledge of
the facilities and capabilities of the environment in which it will be
executing (or even whether it will be executed at all). This is unlike
virtually all other programming circumstances and represents a
considerable design challenge.

Richard.

[Simula]

Hello Tim,

I'm working my way through "Profession al Javascript for Web Developers"
by Wrox Press and I'm pretty impressed with it.

Good Luck,
Mark

[Tim Johnson]

Richard Cornford wrote:

Tim Johnson wrote:

I'm an experienced programmer, but new to Javascript.
For OOP: python and C++ backgrounds, among others

I have one book on js - (Javascript Application Cookbook).
Hi Richard:

There are no good javascript books, and most are actively harmful. The
least bad javascript book is David Flanagan's "JavaScript : The
Definitive Guide" (O'Reilly), and it is so far superior to all
alternatives that it is the only javascript book that it is possible to
recommend at all.
Good tip, and it looks layed out properly.

I'd welcome further recommendations .
1)Small "recipes"

Cookbooks and 'recipes' are the wrong strategy for tackling learning
javascript.

<grin> Works well for me, The TurboC Bible, The Little Schemer, The
Python Cookbook, and The MySQL Cookbook, are all invaluable members of
my library.

2)Object models

The W3C's web site, and specifically the documentation for the Level 2
DOM standards.

Do acquire a copy of ECMA 262 (the standard for javascript
implementations )

<URL:
http://www.ecma-international.org/pu...s/Ecma-262.htm >

Just what I was looking for!
3)Examples

Reading this group, and its archives. Identify the regular contributors
who appear to know what they are talking about and look at their more
complete posted examples.

Yes. I have found lots of good stuff here.

5)Browser gotchas
...etc, etc.

Web browsers are user-configurable software. They vary in the host
object model they provide, between each other and there own versions,
and while the more modern ones move towards the adoption of the W3C DOM
standards, their implementations are more or less complete and correct.
There are always more browsers (including scriptable browsers) than any
individual is aware of. Which, taken together, mean that a web browser
script for the public internet is written without any foreknowledge of
the facilities and capabilities of the environment in which it will be
executing (or even whether it will be executed at all). This is unlike
virtually all other programming circumstances and represents a
considerable design challenge.

Thanks.
Keep up the good work.
Tim

[Michel de Becdelièvre]

"Simula" <pe*********@gm ail.com> a écrit dans le message de news:
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I'm working my way through "Profession al Javascript for Web Developers"
by Wrox Press and I'm pretty impressed with it.

How much of the book is devoted to obsolete browsers ? My biggest gripe is
that almost all the books I laid my hands on devote a endless number of
pages to IE4 / Netscape4 compatibility problems. I'd like something that
covers current browsers (IE6+, Firefox, Safari), with a mostly (but not
only) DOM approach.

Michel.

[Simula]

Michel,

This book deals primarily with IE 6 and Mozilla. It takes a mostly,
but not only (IE 6) DOM approach. Its pretty amazing in how
comprehensive it is. I highly recommend it.

Mark

[Michel de Becdelièvre]

"Simula" <pe*********@gm ail.com> a écrit dans le message de news:
11************* ********@g43g20 00...legro ups.com...

Michel,

This book deals primarily with IE 6 and Mozilla. It takes a mostly,
but not only (IE 6) DOM approach. Its pretty amazing in how
comprehensive it is. I highly recommend it.

Mark

Thanks, the excerpts pages look clear and well structured. I'll add it to my
wish list.

[Douglas Crockford]

> I'm an experienced programmer, but new to Javascript.

http://www.crockford.com/javascript/survey.html