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Hi ! I wonder if anyone can give me some advice. I have been in IT for 30
yrs. Most of the time I have coded in Cobol on medium size systems (Data
General, now a dinosaur). For the past 2 years I have coded in a
proprietary, object-oriented language called Graphtalk(CSC). I have been
studying JAVA and need very much to get into a shop that will allow me to
improve and enhance my abilities with JAVA. As we all know, most companies
want the experience before you get the job. I guess its an old question,
but is there any novel approaches out there with the JAVA community ???

Jul 17 '05 #1
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John,

Best thing you can do is assist an open-source community project and help
enhance it. In the process you will acquire the needed experience and use
this experience for your next job.

This is just a way to acquire experience without being paid. It may involve
extra effort, but you will gain the experience nobody else wants to give you
an opportunity at.
"John J. Walton" <j_******@mindspring.com> wrote in message
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Hi ! I wonder if anyone can give me some advice. I have been in IT for 30
yrs. Most of the time I have coded in Cobol on medium size systems (Data
General, now a dinosaur). For the past 2 years I have coded in a
proprietary, object-oriented language called Graphtalk(CSC). I have been
studying JAVA and need very much to get into a shop that will allow me to
improve and enhance my abilities with JAVA. As we all know, most companies want the experience before you get the job. I guess its an old question,
but is there any novel approaches out there with the JAVA community ???

Jul 17 '05 #2

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Thanks for the reply. Would you have any Web sites you could recommend ???
I would like to investigate that approach further.
RGonzalez <rg*******@f3rsolutions.com.removethis> wrote in message
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John,

Best thing you can do is assist an open-source community project and help
enhance it. In the process you will acquire the needed experience and use
this experience for your next job.

This is just a way to acquire experience without being paid. It may involve extra effort, but you will gain the experience nobody else wants to give you an opportunity at.
"John J. Walton" <j_******@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:u9***************@newsread4.news.pas.earthlin k.net...
Hi ! I wonder if anyone can give me some advice. I have been in IT for 30 yrs. Most of the time I have coded in Cobol on medium size systems (Data General, now a dinosaur). For the past 2 years I have coded in a
proprietary, object-oriented language called Graphtalk(CSC). I have been studying JAVA and need very much to get into a shop that will allow me to improve and enhance my abilities with JAVA. As we all know, most

companies
want the experience before you get the job. I guess its an old question, but is there any novel approaches out there with the JAVA community ???



Jul 17 '05 #3

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John,

I am in a similar predicament. I graduated from uni this year and,
despite having 4 years experience of Java, am finding in tough to find
a job because of lack of commercial experience. I've had 4 interviews
but they've always employed the candidate with some experience behind
them.

I'm now making a concerted effort to contribute to an open source
project. Have a look at http://sourceforge.net/ under the 'Project
Help Wanted' link. There are a few projects that interest me but I am
thinking about proposing a project that will involve Java, the Struts
framework, JSP/Servlets and any other technologies that may be
appropriate like JDO. I'm not sure if sourceforge is the correct forum
for me to ask for help as the project doesn't involve creating a
downloadable tool for the greater common good. The project aim is to
develop a website that will be of benefit to a local community and at
the same time help me to develop my experience along with any others
who may want to help. Let me know if you are interested.

Can anyone tell me if sourceforge would be the correct place to ask
for help in designing a website? The skills I require are database
development, Java, maybe a J2EE solution as I would like to make the
site available on mobile phones so would like to separate the business
logic from the presentation layer.

Thanks,
Nick.

"John J. Walton" <j_******@mindspring.com> wrote in message news:<_u*************@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink .net>...
Thanks for the reply. Would you have any Web sites you could recommend ???
I would like to investigate that approach further.
RGonzalez <rg*******@f3rsolutions.com.removethis> wrote in message
news:hv*******************@twister.tampabay.rr.com ...
John,

Best thing you can do is assist an open-source community project and help
enhance it. In the process you will acquire the needed experience and use
this experience for your next job.

This is just a way to acquire experience without being paid. It may

involve
extra effort, but you will gain the experience nobody else wants to give

you
an opportunity at.
"John J. Walton" <j_******@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:u9***************@newsread4.news.pas.earthlin k.net...
Hi ! I wonder if anyone can give me some advice. I have been in IT for 30 yrs. Most of the time I have coded in Cobol on medium size systems (Data General, now a dinosaur). For the past 2 years I have coded in a
proprietary, object-oriented language called Graphtalk(CSC). I have been studying JAVA and need very much to get into a shop that will allow me to improve and enhance my abilities with JAVA. As we all know, most companies want the experience before you get the job. I guess its an old question, but is there any novel approaches out there with the JAVA community ???


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