I was thinking about lerning web application through the creating the site
which will enable the users to upload, download and viewing the 3D models
created in 3DStudio, Maya etc. What do you think about idea ? Does make
sense ? Does something like that exist? Will viewing (zooming, rotating...)
works in web environment? I find with google only 3D viewer applets, but no
signs of web application, or I google with the wrong words ?
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On Tue, 24 Oct 2006 09:53:42 +0200, FreeStyler wrote:
>
I was thinking about lerning web application through the creating the site
which will enable the users to upload, download and viewing the 3D models
created in 3DStudio, Maya etc. What do you think about idea ? Does make
sense ? Does something like that exist? Will viewing (zooming, rotating...)
works in web environment? I find with google only 3D viewer applets, but no
signs of web application, or I google with the wrong words ?
There have been a number of web pages using 3D with either VRML or X3D.
The advantage with those is that they are viewable with a simple browser
plug-in and are not tied to a vendor. There is also Java 3D which has a
plug-in.
In both cases, the 3D would be cross platform. With 3DStudio I don't
think there is an appropriate viewer for Linux users, and the same could
be true for Maya.
Tony
"FreeStyler " <pa****@po.t-com.hrwrote in message
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>
I was thinking about lerning web application through the creating the site
which will enable the users to upload, download and viewing the 3D models
created in 3DStudio, Maya etc. What do you think about idea ? Does make
sense ? Does something like that exist? Will viewing (zooming,
rotating...)
works in web environment? I find with google only 3D viewer applets, but
no
signs of web application, or I google with the wrong words ?
Unless you want to somehow convert the 3D Models to VRML (sounds
difficult and painful), you're going to either need an applet to render the
3D models, or a flash animation, or something similar (could it be done in
Ajax? Again, sounds difficult and painful).
But for the web app itself, it probably doesn't need to be aware of the
fact that the files its managing are 3D models at all. You could get any
arbitrary generic CMS (Content Management System) which would allow users to
upload files, and it would keep track of authors, number of downloads,
ratings, description, etc. stuff like that. You would just have to add a
tiny bit of code to link to your 3D viewing applet.
- Oliver
"Oliver Wong" <ow***@castorte ch.comje napisao u poruci interesnoj
grupi:bEp%g.714 54$E67.67130@cl grps13...
>
"FreeStyler " <pa****@po.t-com.hrwrote in message
news:eh******** **@ss408.t-com.hr...
I was thinking about lerning web application through the creating the
site
which will enable the users to upload, download and viewing the 3D
models
created in 3DStudio, Maya etc. What do you think about idea ? Does make
sense ? Does something like that exist? Will viewing (zooming,
rotating...)
works in web environment? I find with google only 3D viewer applets, but
no
signs of web application, or I google with the wrong words ?
Unless you want to somehow convert the 3D Models to VRML (sounds
difficult and painful), you're going to either need an applet to render
the
3D models, or a flash animation, or something similar (could it be done in
Ajax? Again, sounds difficult and painful).
But for the web app itself, it probably doesn't need to be aware of
the
fact that the files its managing are 3D models at all. You could get any
arbitrary generic CMS (Content Management System) which would allow users
to
upload files, and it would keep track of authors, number of downloads,
ratings, description, etc. stuff like that. You would just have to add a
tiny bit of code to link to your 3D viewing applet.
- Oliver
few 3Dstudio modelers ask me another question about 3D. They want to know
can I make the application (web or desktop, it doesn't matter) which allow
the user to "move it" through the 3D space which they make with the 3DStudio
(the family house, for example).
"FreeStyler " <pa****@po.t-com.hrwrote in message
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>
few 3Dstudio modelers ask me another question about 3D. They want to know
can I make the application (web or desktop, it doesn't matter) which allow
the user to "move it" through the 3D space which they make with the
3DStudio
(the family house, for example).
Basically, you want to have one 3D model (e.g. a person) and another 3D
model (a house), and you want it so that when buttons on the keyboard are
pressed, the person-model is moved, but the house-mouse doesn't move (but
perhaps the camera will follow the person around), right?
Doing this via DHTML will be extremely painful. Doing it via Flash or
Java applets will be moderately painful. You're essentially implementing a
very simple game here.
- Oliver
"Oliver Wong" <ow***@castorte ch.comje napisao u poruci interesnoj
grupi:crK%g.717 16$E67.40731@cl grps13...
>
"FreeStyler " <pa****@po.t-com.hrwrote in message
news:eh******** **@ss408.t-com.hr...
few 3Dstudio modelers ask me another question about 3D. They want to
know
can I make the application (web or desktop, it doesn't matter) which
allow
the user to "move it" through the 3D space which they make with the
3DStudio
(the family house, for example).
Basically, you want to have one 3D model (e.g. a person) and another
3D
model (a house), and you want it so that when buttons on the keyboard are
pressed, the person-model is moved, but the house-mouse doesn't move (but
perhaps the camera will follow the person around), right?
Doing this via DHTML will be extremely painful. Doing it via Flash or
Java applets will be moderately painful. You're essentially implementing a
very simple game here.
- Oliver
So the easiest way that 3D modeller can present its work is creating the
..avi movie which will drive the customer (of the house) through the model.
But still arhitects doesn't have the presentation tool for moving through
its model by the will of customer. Stuipid or not they looking for an
application which could handle with its 3D models of the house.
"FreeStyler " <pa****@po.t-com.hrwrote in message
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>
"Oliver Wong" <ow***@castorte ch.comje napisao u poruci interesnoj
> Doing this via DHTML will be extremely painful. Doing it via Flash or
Java applets will be moderately painful. You're essentially implementing
a
very simple game here.
- Oliver
So the easiest way that 3D modeller can present its work is creating the
.avi movie which will drive the customer (of the house) through the model.
But still arhitects doesn't have the presentation tool for moving through
its model by the will of customer. Stuipid or not they looking for an
application which could handle with its 3D models of the house.
So go ahead and write this mini-game engine.
- Oliver
"Oliver Wong" <ow***@castorte ch.comje napisao u poruci interesnoj
grupi:BDO%g.717 75$E67.7895@clg rps13...
>
"FreeStyler " <pa****@po.t-com.hrwrote in message
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"Oliver Wong" <ow***@castorte ch.comje napisao u poruci interesnoj
Doing this via DHTML will be extremely painful. Doing it via Flash
or
Java applets will be moderately painful. You're essentially
implementing
a
very simple game here.
- Oliver
So the easiest way that 3D modeller can present its work is creating the
.avi movie which will drive the customer (of the house) through the
model.
But still arhitects doesn't have the presentation tool for moving
through
its model by the will of customer. Stuipid or not they looking for an
application which could handle with its 3D models of the house.
So go ahead and write this mini-game engine.
- Oliver
You scared me:)), I thought that it isn't so complicated, especilly when no
one choose java for making 3D engine. I have just only one conclusion and
you correct me if I'm wrong: textures and shapes of 3DStudio works are
pretty amazing while all todays games (wrote in C++ I suppose) are not. So
even I write mini games engine it will not so amazing as I thought.
"FreeStyler " <pa****@po.t-com.hrwrote in message
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>
"Oliver Wong" <ow***@castorte ch.comje napisao u poruci interesnoj
>>
So go ahead and write this mini-game engine.
You scared me:)), I thought that it isn't so complicated, especilly when
no
one choose java for making 3D engine. I have just only one conclusion and
you correct me if I'm wrong: textures and shapes of 3DStudio works are
pretty amazing while all todays games (wrote in C++ I suppose) are not. So
even I write mini games engine it will not so amazing as I thought.
Writing a 3D game is difficult, no matter what language you use. The fact
that you want to do it in an applet makes it even more difficult. But it's
very possible to write 3D games in Java. http://www.bytonic.de/html/jake2.html https://jge.dev.java.net/ http://www.jmonkeyengine.com/index.p...d=68&Itemid=84
- Oliver
Did you check if there's a browser plugin to view 3DStudio models?
I remember long time ago working with a plugin to render and navigate
Autocad models...
(So you don't need to reinvent the wheel)
"FreeStyler " <pa****@po.t-com.hrwrote in message
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>
"Oliver Wong" <ow***@castorte ch.comje napisao u poruci interesnoj
grupi:bEp%g.714 54$E67.67130@cl grps13...
>>
"FreeStyler " <pa****@po.t-com.hrwrote in message
news:eh******* ***@ss408.t-com.hr...
>
I was thinking about lerning web application through the creating the
site
which will enable the users to upload, download and viewing the 3D
models
created in 3DStudio, Maya etc. What do you think about idea ? Does make
sense ? Does something like that exist? Will viewing (zooming,
rotating...)
works in web environment? I find with google only 3D viewer applets,
but
no
signs of web application, or I google with the wrong words ?
Unless you want to somehow convert the 3D Models to VRML (sounds
difficult and painful), you're going to either need an applet to render
the
>3D models, or a flash animation, or something similar (could it be done
in
Ajax? Again, sounds difficult and painful).
But for the web app itself, it probably doesn't need to be aware of
the
>fact that the files its managing are 3D models at all. You could get any
arbitrary generic CMS (Content Management System) which would allow users
to
>upload files, and it would keep track of authors, number of downloads,
ratings, description, etc. stuff like that. You would just have to add a
tiny bit of code to link to your 3D viewing applet.
- Oliver
few 3Dstudio modelers ask me another question about 3D. They want to know
can I make the application (web or desktop, it doesn't matter) which allow
the user to "move it" through the 3D space which they make with the
3DStudio
(the family house, for example).
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