Bar on edge of screen

[Andrew Jones]

Another problem! :)

I'm trying to make a navigation bar with the left edge on the edge of
the page - but I mean *right* on the edge of the page.

'margin-left: 0px;' doesn't seem to work, it leaves a 2+ pixel gap
between the edge and the side of the page.

Thanks for any help...

BTW, what is the difference between ids and classes?
--
Andrew Jones
[please remove 'spluc.' from my
email address to contact me]

[Richard Barnet]

"Andrew Jones" <an**********@spluc.lineone.net> wrote in message
news:bf**********@hercules.btinternet.com...

BTW, what is the difference between ids and classes?

CLASSes can be used over and over again within a document. An ID can only
be used once. Also, IDs have higher precedence (more weight in the
cascading formula) over CLASSes.

When declaring an ID in CSS, use the pound sign (div#nav {... }). When
declaring a class, use a period (div.nav {...}).

-- Richard

[Richard Barnet]

"Alan J. Flavell" <fl*****@mail.cern.ch> wrote in message
news:Pi*******************************@lxplus017.c ern.ch...

On Wed, Jul 16, Richard Barnet inscribed on the eternal scroll:

When declaring an ID in CSS, use the pound sign

Use the hash sign. The pound sign (£) is something else.

(div#nav {... }).

Quite.

Anyone for an octothorp(e)?

Ha ha - the eternal jargon trick. In the Western U.S., the 'hash'
(octothorp) is most commonly called the 'pound sign' or the 'number sign',
whereas the '£' is called 'British pound'. Gotta love regionalization. =)

http://m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?va=octothorp

http://m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?bo...&va=pound+sign

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=pound%20sign

-- Richard

[Richard Barnet]

"Richard Barnet" <rb*****@csaNOSPAMreno.org> wrote in message
news:bf**********@nnrp.atgi.net...

Ha ha - the eternal jargon trick. In the Western U.S., the 'hash'
(octothorp) is most commonly called the 'pound sign' or the 'number sign',
whereas the '£' is called 'British pound'. Gotta love regionalization. =)
http://m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?va=octothorp

http://m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?bo...&va=pound+sign

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=pound%20sign

Ooh, this one's even better:

http://dictionary.reference.com/sear...sh%20character

=)

-- Richard

[Alan J. Flavell]

On Wed, Jul 16, Richard Barnet inscribed on the eternal scroll:

Ha ha - the eternal jargon trick.
If you're talking about characters, in a WWW context, then I'd have to
recommend paying attention to the Unicode definitions, rather than
using regional variations.
In the Western U.S., the 'hash'
(octothorp) is most commonly called the 'pound sign' or the 'number sign',
Thank you, but I'm not unaware of that. Nevertheless, for better
communication, when referring to technical issues I do try to avoid
unnecessary Britishisms, and I'd invite you to return the courtesy.

In the Unicode table, the relevant character (#) is called 'number
sign', though I felt confident to also call it 'hash' since I think
it's fair to say that term is also generally understood. But U+00A3
(£) is 'pound sign', whether you or I like it or not.
whereas the '£' is called 'British pound'. Gotta love regionalization. =)

Which is why Unicode is making an effort to avoid such
misunderstandings.

[Christoph Paeper]

*Richard Barnet* rb*****@csaNOSPAMreno.org:

['#']

I'd never heard the term "hash", because around here (and according
to the dictionary), 'hash' is short for hashish, [...]

#| -- so easy to remember both this way. Now guess what a "Klammeraffe" is;
hint: it's in this message body.

--
"For every human problem, there is a neat, simple solution;
and it is always wrong." H. L. Mencken

[Richard Barnet]

"Christoph Paeper" <cr*****@gmx.net> wrote in message
news:bf***********@ariadne.rz.tu-clausthal.de...

#| -- so easy to remember both this way. Now guess what a "Klammeraffe" is; hint: it's in this message body.

The at (@) sign.
http://german.about.com/library/blcomputD_F-L.htm

Although Alan would probably tell you that it's really the "AT, COMMERCIAL"
sign.

=)

-- Richard

[Andrew Jones]

Jim Dabell wrote:

Andrew Jones wrote:

I'm trying to make a navigation bar with the left edge on the edge of
the page - but I mean *right* on the edge of the page.

'margin-left: 0px;' doesn't seem to work, it leaves a 2+ pixel gap
between the edge and the side of the page.

Which browsers have you tried? Netscape 4.x causes problems here. You also
haven't supplied a URL, which is usually the best way to get useful advice
here.

I'm trying it on Mozilla and IE6. And I've uploaded it now...
Page: http://tinyurl.com/h8br
CSS: http://tinyurl.com/h8cc
A common debugging technique is to set borders/background colours on the
relevant elements to see what's going on. [...]
What about margins of elements within the element you are considering? They
count too.
All 0px.
What about margins on any outer elements, like <html> and <body>?

I didn't think you could do that, I tried it and it worked. Thanks!

BTW, what is the difference between ids and classes?

The id uniquely identifies a single element, a class denotes the element as
being of a particular type.

id == "This element is called Britney"
class == "This is a happy element"

Right, I get it now!
--
Andrew Jones
[please remove 'spluc.' from my
email address to contact me]

[Andreas Prilop]

"Richard Barnet" <rb*****@csaNOSPAMreno.org> wrote:

X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158

whereas the '?' is called 'British pound'.

I think '?' is called 'question mark'. But it seems your newsreader
simulation has problems with MIME and special, non-ASCII characters.

--
Top posting.
What's the most irritating thing on Usenet?

[Steven Dilley]

"Richard Barnet" <rb*****@csaNOSPAMreno.org> wrote in message
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"Richard Barnet" <rb*****@csaNOSPAMreno.org> wrote in message
news:bf**********@nnrp.atgi.net...

Ooh, this one's even better:

http://dictionary.reference.com/sear...sh%20character

=)

All right, everyone raise your hand if you have ever called this thing a
crunch, mesh, flash, pig-pen, thud, thump or splat.

[Steven Dilley]

"Evertjan." <ex**************@interxnl.net> wrote in message
news:Xn********************@194.109.133.29...

Steven Dilley wrote on 17 jul 2003 in
comp.infosystems.www.authoring.stylesheets:

All right, everyone raise your hand if you have ever called this thing a
crunch, mesh, flash, pig-pen, thud, thump or splat.

Damn, I am sitting here raising, flashing, thudding, crunching and
splatting my hand ...
And you are not even looking !!!!!
--
Evertjan.
The Netherlands.

I *was* looking, but you know, curvature of the earth.
Standing on a very tall chair might help.

[Lars G. Svensson]

On Thu, 17 Jul 2003 20:15:59 +0200, Andreas Prilop <nh******@rrzn-user.uni-
hannover.de> wrote:

"Richard Barnet" <rb*****@csaNOSPAMreno.org> wrote:

X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158

whereas the '?' is called 'British pound'.

I think '?' is called 'question mark'. But it seems your newsreader
simulation has problems with MIME and special, non-ASCII characters.

Hmmm.... The Opera newsreader displayed the 'british pound' sign in
Richard's posting correctly. I'm not sure *whose* news reader simulation
has problems (but I don't know anything of 'User-Agent:YA-
NewsWatcher/3.1.8'-simulation, of course).

--
Lars