Best Browser for speed, space and security?

[Frank Raffaeli]

I had the old-fashioned view that software should work forever. I was
wrong.

My Netscape 4.8 that I installed back in 2000 works on fewer and fewer
websites. I tried installing Netscape 6.0 a year or so ago and it was
too slow to be of any use (1GHz Pentium 3, 500M sram). Net 6 was a
pig.

I want something that will run fast, and has a good, secure e-mail
client. Please phrase responses in terms a hardware engineer can
understand. ;-)

I've heard of Opera 7.x and Netscape 7.x ... I'm just leery after the
Net 6 experience. Higher versions seem to get slower and slower. Hope
I'm wrong.

TIA and Best Regards,

Frank Raffaeli
http://www.aomwireless.com/

[brucie]

in post <news:2c**************************@posting.google. com>
Frank Raffaeli said:

I want something that will run fast, and has a good, secure e-mail
client.
http://opera.com/
Please phrase responses in terms a hardware engineer can
understand. ;-)
http://opera.com/ it comes with a free slab of beer.
Higher versions seem to get slower and slower.

higher versions usually do more goodies than previous versions but opera
is still faster than the others.

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17/December/2003 09:24:59 am kilo

[Eric Bohlman]

SN***************@yahoo.com (Frank Raffaeli) wrote in
news:2c**************************@posting.google.c om:

I've heard of Opera 7.x and Netscape 7.x ... I'm just leery after the
Net 6 experience. Higher versions seem to get slower and slower. Hope
I'm wrong.

Opera 7.2x (7.23 is the latest version) is nice and light and fast (no
noticeable slowness on my 350Mhz system). Opera 7.1x had some speed
problems, but they've been fixed.

If you want an open-source browser based on the Gecko rendering engine
(same as used in Netscape), K-Meleon 0.8 is pretty fast. Netscape and
Mozilla tend to have sluggish user interfaces because just about all their
user-interface behavior is scripted, which makes for lots of
reconfigurability but also puts more demand on the processor.

[David Dorward]

Frank Raffaeli wrote:

Rather off topic for this newsgroup, but here goes.

I want something that will run fast, and has a good, secure e-mail
client. Please phrase responses in terms a hardware engineer can
understand. ;-)

I'm guessing that you are using Windows, so:

* Forget Netscape, its been killed off by AOL

Options
* Mozilla
* Firebird & Thunderbird (Mozilla broken up and enhanced)
* Opera (non-free)

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David Dorward <http://dorward.me.uk/>

[Mark Parnell]

On 16 Dec 2003 15:23:49 -0800, Frank Raffaeli declared in
comp.infosystems.www.authoring.html:

I want something that will run fast, and has a good, secure e-mail
client. Please phrase responses in terms a hardware engineer can
understand. ;-)

I've heard of Opera 7.x and Netscape 7.x ... I'm just leery after the
Net 6 experience. Higher versions seem to get slower and slower. Hope
I'm wrong.

I hated NS6 for the same reason. I use Mozilla, which is NS without all the
extra AOL crap. It is certainly much faster than NS6. Then there is
Firebird, which is a lightweight, Mozilla-based browser (not sure whether
it comes with email, though you can get Thunderbird separately, which is
Mozilla's stand alone mail client).

Opera is supposed to be the fastest browser. I prefer Mozilla personally,
but YMMV.

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Mark Parnell
http://www.clarkecomputers.com.au

[Spartanicus]

David Dorward wrote:

I've heard of Opera 7.x and Netscape 7.x ... I'm just leery after the
Net 6 experience. Higher versions seem to get slower and slower. Hope
I'm wrong.

* Forget Netscape, its been killed off by AOL

Options
* Mozilla
* Firebird & Thunderbird (Mozilla broken up and enhanced)
Moz and Firebird are at least as slow as NS6, Thunderbird is not a
browser.
* Opera (non-free)

T'is in the ad supported mode.

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[Louis Somers]

SN***************@yahoo.com (Frank Raffaeli) wrote in
news:2c**************************@posting.google.c om:

I had the old-fashioned view that software should work forever. I was
wrong.
It still works, but you can't play a music-DVD in a CD player ;-)
My Netscape 4.8 that I installed back in 2000 works on fewer and fewer
websites. I tried installing Netscape 6.0 a year or so ago and it was
too slow to be of any use (1GHz Pentium 3, 500M sram). Net 6 was a
pig.

I want something that will run fast, and has a good, secure e-mail
client. Please phrase responses in terms a hardware engineer can
understand. ;-)

Firebird works fast for me.

I'm also using the free version of Opera 7.21, but I find it quite slow,
especially when resizing the window with an animated GIF in the document,
it really draggs.... quite irritating when testing for different screen
resolutions. But it has many other nice features that Firebird doesn't
have.

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[Jeff Thies]

> My Netscape 4.8 that I installed back in 2000 works on fewer and fewer

websites. I tried installing Netscape 6.0 a year or so ago and it was
too slow to be of any use (1GHz Pentium 3, 500M sram). Net 6 was a
pig.
I find NS7.1 runs fine for me (under tough browsing conditions). Don't
really know if it's faster than the horrible slow NS6, I've upgraded to an
1800 MHz AMD. Seems like it's at least 100 times faster and my upgrade was
maybe 4 times (celeron 500). The screen redraws seem snappy.

Opera 7.1 seems alright also. I find that it renders standard DHTML just
fine, which earlier versions choked on. Kudos!

What's with java? Adds 11 megs to the download and I can't see where it's
worth that. What am I missing with the no java browser? Same stuff I'm
missing with no VBScript? Maybe that's where all the speed went!

Jeff

I want something that will run fast, and has a good, secure e-mail
client. Please phrase responses in terms a hardware engineer can
understand. ;-)

I've heard of Opera 7.x and Netscape 7.x ... I'm just leery after the
Net 6 experience. Higher versions seem to get slower and slower. Hope
I'm wrong.

TIA and Best Regards,

Frank Raffaeli
http://www.aomwireless.com/

[Nick Theodorakis]

On 16 Dec 2003 15:23:49 -0800, SN***************@yahoo.com (Frank
Raffaeli) wrote:

I had the old-fashioned view that software should work forever. I was
wrong.

My Netscape 4.8 that I installed back in 2000 works on fewer and fewer
websites. I tried installing Netscape 6.0 a year or so ago and it was
too slow to be of any use (1GHz Pentium 3, 500M sram). Net 6 was a
pig.

I use a 400 MHz PII and find Mozilla 1.4 to run acceptibly fast enough
to use it as my primary browser.

Nick

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nicholas_theodorakis [at] urmc [dot] rochester [dot] edu

[David Dorward]

Spartanicus wrote:

Moz and Firebird are at least as slow as NS6,
No, they are rather faster. The browser recieved quite a few speed
enhancements between whatever version NS6 (Mozilla trunk pre-1?) was spun
off and the current versions.
Thunderbird is not a browser.

The OP specifically asked for a browser with an email client.

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David Dorward <http://dorward.me.uk/>

[Spartanicus]

David Dorward wrote:

Moz and Firebird are at least as slow as NS6,

No, they are rather faster.

Not on my box.

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Spartanicus

[Tim]

On Wed, 17 Dec 2003 03:30:09 GMT,
"Jeff Thies" <no****@nospam.net> wrote:

Opera 7.1 seems alright also. I find that it renders standard DHTML just
fine, which earlier versions choked on. Kudos!

What's with java? Adds 11 megs to the download and I can't see where it's
worth that. What am I missing with the no java browser? Same stuff I'm
missing with no VBScript? Maybe that's where all the speed went!

I rarely find pages using Java, and usually not for anything important.
Java can occupy a fair amount of memory space, if it's put to use. If
your PC is running low on free memory, you'll notice the difference.
You can install Java, but leave it disabled. Then, on the odd chance
you encounter a page that needs it, you can start it.

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[Mark Parnell]

On Wed, 17 Dec 2003 07:38:48 +0000, David Dorward declared in
comp.infosystems.www.authoring.html:

whatever version NS6 (Mozilla trunk pre-1?)

IIRC it was Moz0.9.

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