I don't seem to be getting anywhere with trying to make my web page
transitional XHTML.
<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN"
"http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd">
There are many errors returned at the W3C validator but the first one
has me stumped. It's my stylesheet link tag.
<LINK REL="stylesheet" HREF="styles.css" type="text/css">
The W3C validator says this about it:
Line 9, column 10: there is no attribute "REL" (explain...).
<LINK REL="stylesheet" HREF="styles.css" type="text/css">
^
Line 9, column 28: there is no attribute "HREF" (explain...).
<LINK REL="stylesheet" HREF="styles.css" type="text/css">
^
Line 9, column 46: there is no attribute "type" (explain...).
<LINK REL="stylesheet" HREF="styles.css" type="text/css">
^
Line 9, column 56: element "LINK" undefined (explain...).
<LINK REL="stylesheet" HREF="styles.css" type="text/css">
^
The W3C explanations of these errors leave a lot to be desired.
I tried many variations and got pretty much the same results.
Can anyone explain this and tell me how to fix it?
Also, is there supposed to be a namespace tag on the second line?
<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" xml:lang="en" lang="en">
Thanks for your help.
17  8491 
"Bruce W...1" <br***@noDirectEmail.com> wrote: I don't seem to be getting anywhere with trying to make my web page
transitional XHTML.
<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN"
"http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd">
That looks correct.
There are many errors returned at the W3C validator but the first one
has me stumped. It's my stylesheet link tag.
<LINK REL="stylesheet" HREF="styles.css" type="text/css">
The W3C validator says this about it:
Line 9, column 10: there is no attribute "REL" (explain...).
<LINK REL="stylesheet" HREF="styles.css" type="text/css">
^
Line 9, column 28: there is no attribute "HREF" (explain...).
<LINK REL="stylesheet" HREF="styles.css" type="text/css">
^
Line 9, column 46: there is no attribute "type" (explain...).
<LINK REL="stylesheet" HREF="styles.css" type="text/css">
^
The three errors above are all symptoms of the error below. Fix this
and they will vanish.
Line 9, column 56: element "LINK" undefined (explain...).
<LINK REL="stylesheet" HREF="styles.css" type="text/css">
Well, something's wrong but based on what you've told us it's
impossible to tell what. Give us the URL so we can check it all out.
Also, is there supposed to be a namespace tag on the second line?
<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" xml:lang="en" lang="en">
Yes, that's correct.
Steve
--
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I never answer letters and you don't like my tie." - The Doctor
Steve Pugh <st***@pugh.net> <http://steve.pugh.net/>
On Fri, 28 Nov 2003 18:46:29 -0500, "Bruce W...1"
<br***@noDirectEmail.com> wrote: I don't seem to be getting anywhere with trying to make my web page
transitional XHTML.
<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN"
"http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd">
There are many errors returned at the W3C validator but the first one
has me stumped. It's my stylesheet link tag.
<LINK REL="stylesheet" HREF="styles.css" type="text/css">
[snip]
Note that you have to use lower case in XHTML (yes, even in
transitional).
<link rel="stylesheet" href="styles.css" type="text/css">
Should validate (it does for me anyway)
"Bruce W...1" <br***@noDirectEmail.com> wrote: I don't seem to be getting anywhere with trying to make my web page
transitional XHTML.
So why are you trying that? You _won't_ get anywhere by just "using
XHTML", which these days mostly means throwing some technobabble here
and some slashes there and getting confused. Besides, you're not using
the slashes. Oh, and you're not using lowercase.
<LINK REL="stylesheet" HREF="styles.css" type="text/css">
In XHTML, all elements must have end tags, and all element and
attribute names must be in lower case. If you didn't know this, _why_
are you using XHTML? We could tell you to use
<link rel="stylesheet" href="styles.css" type="text/css" />
but that would just mean some steps in a useless game of "using XHTML"
for the sake of using XHTML.
The W3C explanations of these errors leave a lot to be desired.
Sorry, but the validator is simply doing what you asked it to do. It's
not its fault that you didn't know what you were asking for.
Also, is there supposed to be a namespace tag on the second line?
<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" xml:lang="en"
lang="en">
In XHTML, the xmlns attribute (which is probably what you mean by
"namespace tag") is required by the prose description. A validator
won't care, though, due to the way the attribute is declared - yet
another reminder of the fact that validation does not imply conformance
to a specification.
--
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Pages about Web authoring: http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/www.html
Steve Pugh <st***@pugh.net> wrote: "Bruce W...1" <br***@noDirectEmail.com> wrote:
Line 9, column 56: element "LINK" undefined (explain...).
<LINK REL="stylesheet" HREF="styles.css" type="text/css">
Well, something's wrong but based on what you've told us it's
impossible to tell what.
Like hell it is...
I can't believe I missed that. This is XHTML. Element and attribute
names must be lowercase. I'll just go stand in the corner.
Steve
--
"My theories appal you, my heresies outrage you,
I never answer letters and you don't like my tie." - The Doctor
Steve Pugh <st***@pugh.net> <http://steve.pugh.net/>
Quoth the raven named Steve Pugh: Steve Pugh <st***@pugh.net> wrote:
"Bruce W...1" <br***@noDirectEmail.com> wrote:
Line 9, column 56: element "LINK" undefined (explain...).
<LINK REL="stylesheet" HREF="styles.css" type="text/css">
Well, something's wrong but based on what you've told us it's
impossible to tell what.
Like hell it is...
I can't believe I missed that. This is XHTML. Element and attribute
names must be lowercase. I'll just go stand in the corner.
Not only lowercase, but it needs a closing /
<link rel="stylesheet" href="styles.css" type="text/css" />
OP: All XHTML elements that don't have a closing tag need a closing slash.
<img src="..." alt="..." ... /> <br /> and so on.
--
-bts
-This space intentionally left blank.
"Beauregard T. Shagnasty" <a.*********@example.invalid> wrote: Quoth the raven named Steve Pugh: Steve Pugh <st***@pugh.net> wrote:"Bruce W...1" <br***@noDirectEmail.com> wrote:
Line 9, column 56: element "LINK" undefined (explain...).
<LINK REL="stylesheet" HREF="styles.css" type="text/css">
Well, something's wrong but based on what you've told us it's
impossible to tell what.
Like hell it is...
I can't believe I missed that. This is XHTML. Element and attribute
names must be lowercase. I'll just go stand in the corner.
Not only lowercase, but it needs a closing /
<link rel="stylesheet" href="styles.css" type="text/css" />
Likely but not necessarily so.
As the OP didn't post the whole source or a URL we don't know whether
there was </link> in there as well. From the error messages quoted
there's no way to tell.
Steve
--
"My theories appal you, my heresies outrage you,
I never answer letters and you don't like my tie." - The Doctor
Steve Pugh <st***@pugh.net> <http://steve.pugh.net/>
Paul D. J. Vandenberg wrote: On Fri, 28 Nov 2003 18:46:29 -0500, "Bruce W...1"
<br***@noDirectEmail.com> wrote:
I don't seem to be getting anywhere with trying to make my web page
transitional XHTML.
<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN"
"http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd">
There are many errors returned at the W3C validator but the first one
has me stumped. It's my stylesheet link tag.
<LINK REL="stylesheet" HREF="styles.css" type="text/css">
[snip]
Note that you have to use lower case in XHTML (yes, even in
transitional).
<link rel="stylesheet" href="styles.css" type="text/css">
Should validate (it does for me anyway)
It does not validate for me. Should be:
<link rel="stylesheet" href="styles.css" type="text/css"/>
;-)
--
Anne van Kesteren
<http://www.annevankesteren.nl/>
Anne van Kesteren wrote: It does not validate for me. Should be:
<link rel="stylesheet" href="styles.css" type="text/css"/>
Only if you don't care about MSIE. If you want to send it according to
Appendix C (i.e. as HTML) then you need a space before the slash.
--
David Dorward http://dorward.me.uk/
David Dorward wrote: It does not validate for me. Should be:
<link rel="stylesheet" href="styles.css" type="text/css"/>
Only if you don't care about MSIE.
Afaik IE does not have a problem sans space.
If you want to send it according to
Appendix C (i.e. as HTML) then you need a space before the slash.
The space is not a requirement, just a hack to make it more compatible
with really old and obscure UA's IIRC.
--
Spartanicus
Spartanicus wrote: David Dorward wrote:
Only if you don't care about MSIE.
The topic was about validating XHTML.
Afaik IE does not have a problem sans space.
for IE/WIN 5.x+ that is correct. For other IE's: I don't know.
The space is not a requirement, just a hack to make it more compatible
with really old and obscure UA's IIRC.
It is: <http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/#C_2>
--
Anne van Kesteren
<http://www.annevankesteren.nl/>
Anne van Kesteren wrote: The space is not a requirement, just a hack to make it more compatible
with really old and obscure UA's IIRC.
It is: <http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/#C_2>
Appendix C is not a requirement (must), only a practical recommendation
aka hack.
--
Spartanicus
On Sat, 29 Nov 2003 11:21:47 +0000, Spartanicus <me@privacy.net>
wrote: Anne van Kesteren wrote:
The space is not a requirement, just a hack to make it more compatible
with really old and obscure UA's IIRC.
It is: <http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/#C_2>
Appendix C is not a requirement (must), only a practical recommendation
aka hack.
Unless you wish to serve it as text/html in which case it is required
by RFC 2854 (of course RFC2854 also lets you serve tag-soup as
text/html, so you can ignore App. C and say you're serving tag-soup
and not worry)
There is certainly no requirement to include a space when authoring
XHTML, and appendix C is wholly pointless and should be removed in
errata, however the XHTML working group are many months over due
responding to the relevant issue, and seemingly refuse to respond to
this. However W3 process is flawed and there's nothing we do except
appeal to the Activity people - who just happen to be the same in the
case of HTML...
Jim.
--
comp.lang.javascript FAQ - http://jibbering.com/faq/
Jim Ley wrote: The space is not a requirement, just a hack to make it more compatible
with really old and obscure UA's IIRC.
It is: <http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/#C_2>
Appendix C is not a requirement (must), only a practical recommendation
aka hack.
Unless you wish to serve it as text/html in which case it is required
by RFC 2854
The context is using a space before closing an empty element in XHTML,
this is not dealt with in RFC 2854.
appendix C is wholly pointless and should be removed in errata
A contradiction in terms, errata further clarifies things or points out
errors, it does not "remove" anything.
--
Spartanicus
In article
<ho********************************@news.spartanic us.utvinternet.ie>,
Spartanicus <me@privacy.net> wrote: appendix C is wholly pointless and should be removed in errata
A contradiction in terms, errata further clarifies things or points out
errors, it does not "remove" anything.
I think the point here is that the entire Appendix C is considered an
error by some.
--
Henri Sivonen hs******@iki.fi http://iki.fi/hsivonen/
Mozilla Web Author FAQ: http://mozilla.org/docs/web-developer/faq.html
On Tue, 02 Dec 2003 14:24:34 +0000, Spartanicus <me@privacy.net>
wrote: Jim Ley wrote:Unless you wish to serve it as text/html in which case it is required
by RFC 2854
The context is using a space before closing an empty element in XHTML,
this is not dealt with in RFC 2854.
Of course it is, RFC 2854 gives authority to serve XHTML based on the
profile described in XHTML 1 - Appendix C is that profile. appendix C is wholly pointless and should be removed in errata
A contradiction in terms, errata further clarifies things or points out
errors, it does not "remove" anything.
Yes, the contradictory thing is Appendix C. It's self contradictory
(C1 and C14) as well as being wrong in many other ways.
Jim.
--
comp.lang.javascript FAQ - http://jibbering.com/faq/
What Jukka K. Korpela was saying is correct. You were writing HTML 4.01
Transitional not XHTML 1.0 Transitional. You should use HTML 4.01
unless you don't mind retyping it. It must follow the rules for XML
with lower-case attributes and elements. The only reason to use XHTML
right now is if you are potentially going to release XML data into the
document through IFRAMEs. You probably don't need XML documents in your
website. Because of that, you should use HTML.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
Jukka K. Korpela wrote: "Bruce W...1" <br***@noDirectEmail.com> wrote:
I don't seem to be getting anywhere with trying to make my web page
transitional XHTML.
So why are you trying that? You _won't_ get anywhere by just "using
XHTML", which these days mostly means throwing some technobabble here
and some slashes there and getting confused. Besides, you're not using
the slashes. Oh, and you're not using lowercase.
<LINK REL="stylesheet" HREF="styles.css" type="text/css">
In XHTML, all elements must have end tags, and all element and
attribute names must be in lower case. If you didn't know this, _why_
are you using XHTML? We could tell you to use
<link rel="stylesheet" href="styles.css" type="text/css" />
but that would just mean some steps in a useless game of "using XHTML"
for the sake of using XHTML.
The W3C explanations of these errors leave a lot to be desired.
Sorry, but the validator is simply doing what you asked it to do. It's
not its fault that you didn't know what you were asking for.
Also, is there supposed to be a namespace tag on the second line?
<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" xml:lang="en"
lang="en">
In XHTML, the xmlns attribute (which is probably what you mean by
"namespace tag") is required by the prose description. A validator
won't care, though, due to the way the attribute is declared - yet
another reminder of the fact that validation does not imply conformance
to a specification.
True Gamer: The only reason to use XHTML
right now is if you are potentially going to release XML data into the
document through IFRAMEs.
Iframes? What have Iframes to do with this?
You probably don't need XML documents in your
website. Because of that, you should use HTML.
There can be other good reasons for using XHTML.
--
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