font sizing problem

[Andrew Poulos]

I've got some CSS that looks like this:

body {
margin: 0;
font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;
font-size: 140.01%;
color: #000000;
}

but IE won't apply the font size to text in table cells so I've had to
modify it to this:

body {
margin: 0;
}

body, td {
font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;
font-size: 140.01%;
color: #000000;
}

This "fixes" it in IE buy in MZ the font size in table cells is too
large. I believe it's 140.01% of 140.01%. I think the only way around
this is to load a specific style sheet depending on the the browser.

Is this the right way to go about this or is there a better way?
Andrew Poulos

PS the .01% was added because someone told me to and I didn't know
enough about fonts to disagree.

[Steve Pugh]

On Tue, 30 Nov 2004 15:27:17 -0500, "C A Upsdell"
<cupsdell0311XXX@-@[e-mail]> wrote:

"Steve Pugh" <st***@pugh.net> wrote in message
news:gd********************************@4ax.com.. .

Hmm, I've just done a test and Netscape 4.7 successfully carried out
the instructions inside a script with type but not language.

One of the problems with NN4 is that it is not a monolith: Netscape issued
many versions to fix bugs, fix security issues, add features (such as
limited support for PNG in 4.04), and (in the case of 4.5) improve standards
compliance. If your experience goes back that far then you likely remember
that, although updates tended to fix problems, they also tended to create
new problems, or re-introduce problems that had been fixed earlier.

I believe you when you say you did not find a problem in omitting the
LANGUAGE attribute with NN4.7. I also tested this with 4.08 and 4.80, and I
did not find a problem with them. However, I know that I did have a problem
with some NN4 versions -- and no, I never kept a record of which versions,
so I can't cite them -- for which reason I had to adopt the rule to always
include the LANGUAGE attribute.

This change probably took place between 4.04 and 4.05 as a lot of JS
related stuff was tweaked for 4.05. I can't remember when 4.05 came
out but it was before the first of the 4.5 versions (i.e. before
mid-98) so the number of 4.04 and below users must surely be a small
minority even amongst the small minority of poor souls still using NN
4.x.

Steve

[Johannes Koch]

Andrew Poulos wrote:

4. How to play the aiff in MZ without the embed (I realise that the
embed makes the XHTML not strict compliant).
<object classid="CLSID:22d6f312-b0f6-11d0-94ab-0080c74c7e95"

codebase="http://activex.microsoft.com/activex/controls/mplayer/en/nsmp2inf.cab#Version=6,4,5,715"

standby="Loading..."
type="application/x-oleobject">
1. Is application/x-oleobject the correct MIME type for the media file
you want to present?

2. Add
data="media/aif_sample.aif"
here
<param name="FileName" value="media/aif_sample.aif" />

--
Johannes Koch
In te domine speravi; non confundar in aeternum.
(Te Deum, 4th cent.)

[Christoph Paeper]

*Andrew Poulos* <ap*****@hotmail.com>:

1. Whether I need the XML prolog
Omit it, send an appropriate HTTP header and (much preferably) use UTF-8
for XML (or its subset US-ASCII). Every FAQL will tell you something like
that.
2. Whether I need the meta tag
No, it comes too late anyway.
and, if I do, if it's correct
Well, "text/html" combined with XHTML is just a last resort solution.
3. How to play the aiff in IE without the param
4. How to play the aiff in MZ without the embed
<a href="media/aif_sample.aif">An AIFF sample</a>

Best user-controllable, best supported, least annoying.
(I realise that the embed makes the XHTML not strict compliant).
It's not even loose compliant.
<div style="visibility:hidden;">
<object
So you basically want to annoy your visitors with background noise with
hidden turn-off controls? You &swearword;! They are annoying.

Actually this takes it kind of on-topic again, because background-sounds
should---if at all---be implemented via CSS, just like background-images.
CSS*3: Audio, which would include it, is one of the least advanced
modules, though, i.e. not even a first public WD
(<http://www.w3.org/Style/CSS/current-work>) has been published.

Has someone experimented with other file-types than images put into
'url()' as value of for example 'background-image'?
classid="CLSID:22d6f312-b0f6-11d0-94ab-0080c74c7e95"
codebase="http://activex.microsoft.com/activex/controls/mplayer/en/nsmp2inf.cab#Version=6,4,5,715"
These should be ignored by browsers other than (Windows) IE.
type="application/x-oleobject">
That certainly isn't the correct MIME-type for an AIFF sound file. I'm not
sure whether 'audio/L16' (RFC 2586) would be a more appropriate choice, I
don't know AIFF that well---or audio formats at all for that matter. Else
go with 'audio/x-aiff'.
<param name="FileName" value="media/aif_sample.aif" />
I'd expect that value in the 'data' attribute of the 'object', which
should work in browsers that support 'object'.
<embed type="audio/x-aiff"

If you use 'embed', you could as well use the equally proprietary
'bgsound' element (yes an empty element inside 'head', not a 'body'
attribute like 'bgcolor' or 'background'!). Now I don't remember if that
was an MS or NS invention.

--
"Put it back in the horse!"
H. Allen Smith, after he drank his first American beer at a bar

[Spartanicus]

Christoph Paeper <ch**************@nurfuerspam.de> wrote:

Has someone experimented with other file-types than images put into
'url()' as value of for example 'background-image'?

I experimented with css generated content using something else than
plain text or common images (gif, png, jpeg) a bit, nothing works in any
of my UAs. I tried css 2.x pseudo elements supported by Opera & Mozilla
and also without the pseudo elements as proposed in css 3 drafts
(currently supported by Opera 7). I can only get text or common images
to work. I also tried base64 encoding, no cigar.

classid="CLSID:22d6f312-b0f6-11d0-94ab-0080c74c7e95"
codebase="http://activex.microsoft.com/activex/controls/mplayer/en/nsmp2inf.cab#Version=6,4,5,715"

These should be ignored by browsers other than (Windows) IE.

Should, but isn't: Gecko also supports the MS MP ActiveX to some extent.

--
Spartanicus