Difference in IE and Netscape

[Ben]

I have a page (www.eastex.net/ben/NewETN/index3.asp) that displays OK in IE,
but not in Netscape. I used a combination of padding-top and height
attributes to get a total height on four cells. Netscape seems to not
respect the padding-top, and only goes by the height, resulting in the cells
being too short.

What options do I have in CSS? I would like to be able to specify the
height by using a definite attribute (I thought height was the answer, but
my text then goes to the top of the cell, and I want it centered).

Please Help!!! You can go to the page to see what I'm talking about.

Thanks,
Ben

[Barry Pearson]

Ben wrote:

Ok, I abviously know a lot less about CSS than originally thought. I
used the first chapter of Eric Meyer on CSS (showing how to convert
from HTML layout to CSS layout). I assumed that tables must be used
still, but can be a lot simpler and the only formatting needed was
the cellspacing.

[snip]

They are neither mandatory nor prohibited. They are simply a technique for you
to use if they suit your purpose at any time.

But, indeed, if you use them, make them simple and control them via CSS.

--
Barry Pearson
http://www.Barry.Pearson.name/photography/
http://www.BirdsAndAnimals.info/
http://www.ChildSupportAnalysis.co.uk/

[Ben]

Ok, how would I position the Email Login bar and cells underneath it using
CSS? You can see what I have so far at:
www.eastex.net/ben/NewETNcss/index.htm

The panes on the right need to stretch all the way to right of the browser,
but the left side starts at 557px. This stuff gets confusing fast!

--
Ben
"Ben" <ben at eastex dot net> wrote in message
news:10******** *****@corp.supe rnews.com...
| I have a page (www.eastex.net/ben/NewETN/index3.asp) that displays OK in
IE,
| but not in Netscape. I used a combination of padding-top and height
| attributes to get a total height on four cells. Netscape seems to not
| respect the padding-top, and only goes by the height, resulting in the
cells
| being too short.
|
| What options do I have in CSS? I would like to be able to specify the
| height by using a definite attribute (I thought height was the answer, but
| my text then goes to the top of the cell, and I want it centered).
|
| Please Help!!! You can go to the page to see what I'm talking about.
|
| Thanks,
| Ben
|
|

[Brian]

How am I supposed to post my replies in a newsgroup?:
http://allmyfaqs.com/faq.pl?How_to_post

[top-posting fixed, but quote marks may be a bit off]

Ben wrote:

www.eastex.net/ben/NewETN/index3.asp
Brian wrote...

it appears, you didn't bother validating your code

http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=ht...N%2Findex3.asp

Ben wrote:
Ok, I abviously know a lot less about CSS than originally thought.
Well, this is not a question of CSS, it is the HTML, which is more
important. Your CSS had no errors. Your HTML had lots. The problem
there is that even good CSS can go bad when the HTML has errors. Think
of it as a nice coat of paint on a house with a crumbling foundation.
I used the first chapter of Eric Meyer on CSS (showing how to convert
from HTML layout to CSS layout).
A good reference.
I assumed that tables must be used still, but can be a lot simpler
and the only formatting needed was the cellspacing.

You can, but I don't recommend it. I recommend dumping layout tables.
Markup the data correctly -- headings in <h1> or <h2 or...; lists in
<ul> or <ol>; paragraphs in <p>; etc. -- then apply the css.

But regardless of what markup you use, it *must* be validated if you
want a fighting chance at getting your css to work. So the question is,
do you want references for HTML and validation?

--
Brian (remove "invalid" from my address to email me)
http://www.tsmchughs.com/

[Ben]

Ok, how would I position the Email Login bar and cells underneath it using
CSS? You can see what I have so far at:
www.eastex.net/ben/NewETNcss/index.htm

The panes on the right need to stretch all the way to right of the browser,
but the left side starts at 557px. This stuff gets confusing fast!

--
Ben
"Ben" <ben at eastex dot net> wrote in message
news:10******** *****@corp.supe rnews.com...
| I have a page (www.eastex.net/ben/NewETN/index3.asp) that displays OK in
IE,
| but not in Netscape. I used a combination of padding-top and height
| attributes to get a total height on four cells. Netscape seems to not
| respect the padding-top, and only goes by the height, resulting in the
cells
| being too short.
|
| What options do I have in CSS? I would like to be able to specify the
| height by using a definite attribute (I thought height was the answer, but
| my text then goes to the top of the cell, and I want it centered).
|
| Please Help!!! You can go to the page to see what I'm talking about.
|
| Thanks,
| Ben
|
|

[Brian]

How am I supposed to post my replies in a newsgroup?:
http://allmyfaqs.com/faq.pl?How_to_post

[top-posting fixed, but quote marks may be a bit off]

Ben wrote:

www.eastex.net/ben/NewETN/index3.asp
Brian wrote...

it appears, you didn't bother validating your code

http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=ht...N%2Findex3.asp

Ben wrote:
Ok, I abviously know a lot less about CSS than originally thought.
Well, this is not a question of CSS, it is the HTML, which is more
important. Your CSS had no errors. Your HTML had lots. The problem
there is that even good CSS can go bad when the HTML has errors. Think
of it as a nice coat of paint on a house with a crumbling foundation.
I used the first chapter of Eric Meyer on CSS (showing how to convert
from HTML layout to CSS layout).
A good reference.
I assumed that tables must be used still, but can be a lot simpler
and the only formatting needed was the cellspacing.

You can, but I don't recommend it. I recommend dumping layout tables.
Markup the data correctly -- headings in <h1> or <h2 or...; lists in
<ul> or <ol>; paragraphs in <p>; etc. -- then apply the css.

But regardless of what markup you use, it *must* be validated if you
want a fighting chance at getting your css to work. So the question is,
do you want references for HTML and validation?

--
Brian (remove "invalid" from my address to email me)
http://www.tsmchughs.com/

[Ben]

Alright, I got everything validated through W3C! However, I'm still using
tables simply because I could not get it looking right with CSS. That will
have to be a future correction. I also put the javascript in a an external
file.

Anyways, just wanted to say thanks for your help, and the links were useful.

--
Ben
"Brian" <us*****@juliet remblay.com.inv alid> wrote in message
news:10******** *****@corp.supe rnews.com...
| How am I supposed to post my replies in a newsgroup?:
| http://allmyfaqs.com/faq.pl?How_to_post
|
| [top-posting fixed, but quote marks may be a bit off]
|
| Ben wrote:
| > www.eastex.net/ben/NewETN/index3.asp
|
| Brian wrote...
|
| >> it appears, you didn't bother validating your code
| >>
| >>
http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=ht...N%2Findex3.asp
|
| Ben wrote:
|
| > Ok, I abviously know a lot less about CSS than originally thought.
|
| Well, this is not a question of CSS, it is the HTML, which is more
| important. Your CSS had no errors. Your HTML had lots. The problem
| there is that even good CSS can go bad when the HTML has errors. Think
| of it as a nice coat of paint on a house with a crumbling foundation.
|
| > I used the first chapter of Eric Meyer on CSS (showing how to convert
| > from HTML layout to CSS layout).
|
| A good reference.
|
| > I assumed that tables must be used still, but can be a lot simpler
| > and the only formatting needed was the cellspacing.
|
| You can, but I don't recommend it. I recommend dumping layout tables.
| Markup the data correctly -- headings in <h1> or <h2 or...; lists in
| <ul> or <ol>; paragraphs in <p>; etc. -- then apply the css.
|
| But regardless of what markup you use, it *must* be validated if you
| want a fighting chance at getting your css to work. So the question is,
| do you want references for HTML and validation?
|
| --
| Brian (remove "invalid" from my address to email me)
| http://www.tsmchughs.com/

[Ben]

Alright, I got everything validated through W3C! However, I'm still using
tables simply because I could not get it looking right with CSS. That will
have to be a future correction. I also put the javascript in a an external
file.

Anyways, just wanted to say thanks for your help, and the links were useful.

--
Ben
"Brian" <us*****@juliet remblay.com.inv alid> wrote in message
news:10******** *****@corp.supe rnews.com...
| How am I supposed to post my replies in a newsgroup?:
| http://allmyfaqs.com/faq.pl?How_to_post
|
| [top-posting fixed, but quote marks may be a bit off]
|
| Ben wrote:
| > www.eastex.net/ben/NewETN/index3.asp
|
| Brian wrote...
|
| >> it appears, you didn't bother validating your code
| >>
| >>
http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=ht...N%2Findex3.asp
|
| Ben wrote:
|
| > Ok, I abviously know a lot less about CSS than originally thought.
|
| Well, this is not a question of CSS, it is the HTML, which is more
| important. Your CSS had no errors. Your HTML had lots. The problem
| there is that even good CSS can go bad when the HTML has errors. Think
| of it as a nice coat of paint on a house with a crumbling foundation.
|
| > I used the first chapter of Eric Meyer on CSS (showing how to convert
| > from HTML layout to CSS layout).
|
| A good reference.
|
| > I assumed that tables must be used still, but can be a lot simpler
| > and the only formatting needed was the cellspacing.
|
| You can, but I don't recommend it. I recommend dumping layout tables.
| Markup the data correctly -- headings in <h1> or <h2 or...; lists in
| <ul> or <ol>; paragraphs in <p>; etc. -- then apply the css.
|
| But regardless of what markup you use, it *must* be validated if you
| want a fighting chance at getting your css to work. So the question is,
| do you want references for HTML and validation?
|
| --
| Brian (remove "invalid" from my address to email me)
| http://www.tsmchughs.com/