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Fooling around with new design. Comments please.

Present site:

http://www.risky-biz.com

First "sketch" of new design.

http://www.risky-biz.com/new

I'm trying some new ideas, mostly just changing the stylesheet. It's
pretty rough so far. Some of the photos won't work on the "new" site,
but I doubt many of you will get that far in.

Thanks in advance

Greg
Jul 20 '05 #1
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"Greg G" <gd*******@veri zon.net> wrote in message:
http://www.risky-biz.com

First "sketch" of new design.

http://www.risky-biz.com/new

I'm trying some new ideas, mostly just changing the stylesheet. It's
pretty rough so far. Some of the photos won't work on the "new" site,
but I doubt many of you will get that far in.

Thanks in advance

Greg


Well, it looks pretty nice. You should specify a !DOCTYPE at the top of your
code. http://www.w3.org/QA/2002/04/valid-dtd-list.html

Also, no character encoding labeling is specified. See
http://www.w3.org/International/tuto...-char-enc.html

Regards,
Jim Roberts
Jul 20 '05 #2
On Sun, 4 Apr 2004 22:38:13 -0400, Jim Roberts <jr******@msn.c om> wrote:
Also, no character encoding labeling is specified. See
http://www.w3.org/International/tuto...-char-enc.html


I'm getting it as iso-8859-1...
Jul 20 '05 #3

"Neal" <ne*****@spamrc n.com> wrote in message
news:op******** ******@news.rcn .com...
On Sun, 4 Apr 2004 22:38:13 -0400, Jim Roberts <jr******@msn.c om> wrote:
Also, no character encoding labeling is specified. See
http://www.w3.org/International/tuto...-char-enc.html


I'm getting it as iso-8859-1...


It's his frame set page that doesn't have the character encloding label.
His other pages are set at the above but no doctype is specified.

Regards, Jim
Jul 20 '05 #4
On Mon, 05 Apr 2004 01:08:14 GMT, Greg G <gd*******@veri zon.net> wrote:
Present site:

http://www.risky-biz.com

First "sketch" of new design.

http://www.risky-biz.com/new

I'm trying some new ideas, mostly just changing the stylesheet. It's
pretty rough so far. Some of the photos won't work on the "new" site,
but I doubt many of you will get that far in.

Thanks in advance

Greg

At short viewport sizes the side frame won't scroll. Even 800x600 is a
mess. I see what you're after, but it's a problematic design choice. At
that res, there's another problem with the logo and format choice links.
Jul 20 '05 #5
On Sun, 4 Apr 2004 22:48:23 -0400, Jim Roberts <jr******@msn.c om> wrote:

"Neal" <ne*****@spamrc n.com> wrote in message
news:op******** ******@news.rcn .com...
On Sun, 4 Apr 2004 22:38:13 -0400, Jim Roberts <jr******@msn.c om> wrote:
> Also, no character encoding labeling is specified. See
> http://www.w3.org/International/tuto...-char-enc.html


I'm getting it as iso-8859-1...


It's his frame set page that doesn't have the character encloding label.

I'ts set at the server then. Try to validate the frameset page, it'll
detect the charset but fail due to no doctype.
Jul 20 '05 #6

"Neal" <ne*****@spamrc n.com> wrote...

I'ts set at the server then. Try to validate the frameset page, it'll
detect the charset but fail due to no doctype.


Ah, I see. cool. I tested his site with Firefox .8 @ 800x600. I didn't see
the problems you were having. I'll have to try it with IE.

I do like that he offers a no-frames version. I like the look too.

Regards,
Jim
Jul 20 '05 #7
In message <tb************ *************** *****@4ax.com>, Greg G
<gd*******@veri zon.net> writes
Present site:

http://www.risky-biz.com

First "sketch" of new design.

http://www.risky-biz.com/new

I'm trying some new ideas, mostly just changing the stylesheet. It's
pretty rough so far. Some of the photos won't work on the "new" site,
but I doubt many of you will get that far in.

Thanks in advance

Greg

Looks good. Some people don't like having their scroll-bars coloured -
but I think it looks attractive.

Two minor things:

(a) The text is a little too small for me, so I increased the size of
the text. This, however, causes the height of the menu to increase with
the result that the text at the very bottom of the frame gets
overwritten:
http://www.gododdin.demon.co.uk/ng/RB_1X.JPG (82k)

(b) If I run with images switched off (as some people with dial-up lines
assure me that they do), there are problems with the text at the top of
the page:
http://www.gododdin.demon.co.uk/ng/RB_2X.JPG (78k)

Oh yes, one other thing:
The Show Schedule table would be better if you had some headings on the
columns for the benefit of anyone with sight (or other) problems looking
at it in talking browser. Column headings would help navigating the
Schedule.

regards.
--
Jake
Jul 20 '05 #8
On Mon, 5 Apr 2004 11:32:24 +0100, jake <ja**@gododdin. demon.co.uk>
wrote:
In message <tb************ *************** *****@4ax.com>, Greg G
<gd*******@ver izon.net> writes
Present site:

http://www.risky-biz.com

First "sketch" of new design.

http://www.risky-biz.com/new

I'm trying some new ideas, mostly just changing the stylesheet. It's
pretty rough so far. Some of the photos won't work on the "new" site,
but I doubt many of you will get that far in.

Thanks in advance

Greg

Looks good. Some people don't like having their scroll-bars coloured -
but I think it looks attractive.


Thanks. I hope it doesn't offend too many people. One of my aims with
this "experiment " is to try some fancier things, but without
compromising usability.
Two minor things:

(a) The text is a little too small for me, so I increased the size of
the text. This, however, causes the height of the menu to increase with
the result that the text at the very bottom of the frame gets
overwritten:
http://www.gododdin.demon.co.uk/ng/RB_1X.JPG (82k)
First let me thank you for going the extra mile (do you still use
miles over there?) to help me out. I am aware that with a very large
font size and/or a small window the "coming soon" area will overlap
the other links. I'm hoping that people with those viewing conditions
will choose the No Frames option.
(b) If I run with images switched off (as some people with dial-up lines
assure me that they do), there are problems with the text at the top of
the page:
http://www.gododdin.demon.co.uk/ng/RB_2X.JPG (78k)
Thanks. I believe I have corrected that now.
Oh yes, one other thing:
The Show Schedule table would be better if you had some headings on the
columns for the benefit of anyone with sight (or other) problems looking
at it in talking browser. Column headings would help navigating the
Schedule.
I am not very familiar with how talking browsers work and I'm not sure
if any of the band's "fans" use them, but I am always interested in
better accesibility. I put in the headings.

Thanks again.
regards.


Jul 20 '05 #9
On Sun, 04 Apr 2004 22:51:41 -0400, Neal <ne*****@spamrc n.com> wrote:
On Mon, 05 Apr 2004 01:08:14 GMT, Greg G <gd*******@veri zon.net> wrote:
Present site:

http://www.risky-biz.com

First "sketch" of new design.

http://www.risky-biz.com/new

I'm trying some new ideas, mostly just changing the stylesheet. It's
pretty rough so far. Some of the photos won't work on the "new" site,
but I doubt many of you will get that far in.

Thanks in advance

Greg

At short viewport sizes the side frame won't scroll. Even 800x600 is a
mess. I see what you're after, but it's a problematic design choice. At
that res, there's another problem with the logo and format choice links.


Thanks for the comments.

At 800 x 600 everything fits, as far as I can tell. At 640 x 480 the
logo doesn't fit and things are tight generally. Of course, you may be
using larger fonts.

That is the main reason I have included a no-frames option. Without
the nav frame even 640 x 480 seems OK to me. I believe it also takes
care of the "short viewport" condition.
Jul 20 '05 #10

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