What are this group's members' ideas about including W3C validator
( http://validator.w3.org) graphics on web pages? Specifically, should
they be on every page? I can see including an HTML/XHTML validation
graphic on each page. That way you can quickly check the page any
time you update it.
But what about the CSS validator? Typically (I hope), the CSS is
in an external stylesheet that every page on the site links to or
imports. So do you just include it on the main (or home) page of the
site? That makes sense to me.
But then what about special cases? For example, I'm currently working
on revamping part of my site. Because I only use certain styles on
specific subsets of pages, I decided to keep things "simple" by using
separate, imported stylesheets (in addition to the main one) on those
subsets. (Assuming import-compliant browsers, this is how you should
do things, isn't it?)
There really isn't a "main" page in these subsets. Should I include a
CSS validator graphic on each one (for the additional, imported
stylesheet) or is that overkill? What about pages that import
multiple stylesheets? Should I include a CSS validator for each one
imported or am I just getting silly now?
Perhaps this has been discussed before, but I'm new here and my quick
Google Groups search didn't find it.
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Lee K. Seitz wrote: What are this group's members' ideas about including W3C validator
(http://validator.w3.org) graphics on web pages? Specifically, should
they be on every page? I can see including an HTML/XHTML validation
graphic on each page. That way you can quickly check the page any
time you update it.
But what about the CSS validator? Typically (I hope), the CSS is
in an external stylesheet that every page on the site links to or
imports. So do you just include it on the main (or home) page of the
site? That makes sense to me.
But then what about special cases? For example, I'm currently working
on revamping part of my site. Because I only use certain styles on
specific subsets of pages, I decided to keep things "simple" by using
separate, imported stylesheets (in addition to the main one) on those
subsets. (Assuming import-compliant browsers, this is how you should
do things, isn't it?)
There really isn't a "main" page in these subsets. Should I include a
CSS validator graphic on each one (for the additional, imported
stylesheet) or is that overkill? What about pages that import
multiple stylesheets? Should I include a CSS validator for each one
imported or am I just getting silly now?
Perhaps this has been discussed before, but I'm new here and my quick
Google Groups search didn't find it.
You don't need to use the graphics at all, you could just use a discreet
text link.
The question you might want to ask yourself is:
"Does it matter to anyone but me that it's valid?"
If everything validates then you maybe should just feel good in yourself
about it, you've earned the graphic or the right to link to the
validator but are you sacrificing aesthetics to do so ?
You don't have to.
After all it's valid, isn't that enough ?
In article <j9************ ******@news-binary.blueyond er.co.uk>,
Citizen Trout <no****@this.co m> wrote: You don't need to use the graphics at all, you could just use a discreet
text link.
The question you might want to ask yourself is:
"Does it matter to anyone but me that it's valid?"
Wow, what a fast reply! Yes, everything you say is true. But being
new at XHTML and still not confident in my rudimentary CSS skills, I'm
also thinking of ease of re-checking the pages as I modify them. One
click is a lot better than filling out a form.
Also, I would like to support whatever grassroots effort there is to
ensure valid HTML/CSS is used everywhere on the web. I've seen some
of what's out there and it gives me chills. 8)
--
lkseitz (Lee K. Seitz) .at. hiwaay @dot@ net
"The hardest thing in the world to understand is the income tax."
-- Albert Einstein
Lee K. Seitz wrote: In article <j9************ ******@news-binary.blueyond er.co.uk>,
Citizen Trout <no****@this.co m> wrote:
You don't need to use the graphics at all, you could just use a discreet
text link.
The question you might want to ask yourself is:
"Does it matter to anyone but me that it's valid?"
Wow, what a fast reply! Yes, everything you say is true. But being
new at XHTML and still not confident in my rudimentary CSS skills, I'm
also thinking of ease of re-checking the pages as I modify them. One
click is a lot better than filling out a form.
Also, I would like to support whatever grassroots effort there is to
ensure valid HTML/CSS is used everywhere on the web. I've seen some
of what's out there and it gives me chills. 8)
If you are using Mozilla there is an extension called "Web Developer" http://extensionroom.mozdev.org
or http://chrispederick.myacen.com/work.../webdeveloper/
This will allow you to check your pages and your css from a toolbar
(uploaded pages that is).
Thomas Mlynarczyk wrote: http://chrispederick.myacen.com/work.../webdeveloper/
Help - I now have a downloaded xpi-file. What do I do with it?
Right Ok.
*Presuming* you are a Windows user...(apologi es if not, It should be
easy enough to locate FAQs for Linux or MAC)
You need to click the the download link whilst viewing the page in
Mozilla or Firebird, preferably a recent build (nightly builds may be a
bit dodgy for installing extensions) so..Moz 1.6 or Firebird 0.7.
It should then download, bring up some instructions and then install,
you then need to restart Moz/Firebird.
If you have saved it to your desktop, this won't happen.
If you can't do this from the Pederick link then use the http://extensionroom.mozdev.org link, click on the link for the browser
you are using and scroll down to "Web Developer" and click the relevant
link for your browser.
Also sprach Citizen Trout: *Presuming* you are a Windows user
Yes. Win98SE.
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.1a) Gecko/20020611
You need to click the the download link whilst viewing the page in
Mozilla
I did that using the link you gave below. But no instructions came up, and
even after restarting Mozilla my Web-Developement menu contains the same as
before: Consoles for Java and JavaScript. Do I need a newer version of
Mozilla?
http://extensionroom.mozdev.org
Thomas Mlynarczyk wrote: Also sprach Citizen Trout:
*Presuming* you are a Windows user
Yes. Win98SE.
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.1a) Gecko/20020611
You need to click the the download link whilst viewing the page in
Mozilla
I did that using the link you gave below. But no instructions came up, and
even after restarting Mozilla my Web-Developement menu contains the same as
before: Consoles for Java and JavaScript. Do I need a newer version of
Mozilla?
http://extensionroom.mozdev.org
I would do.
Get 1.6 off the front page of http://www.mozila.org
Be sure to uninstall 1.1a completely and delete the mozilla.org
installation directory from "program files" first.
Citizen Trout wrote: Right Ok.
*Presuming* you are a Windows user...(apologi es if not, It should be
easy enough to locate FAQs for Linux or MAC)
You need to click the the download link whilst viewing the page in
Mozilla or Firebird, preferably a recent build (nightly builds may be a
bit dodgy for installing extensions) so..Moz 1.6 or Firebird 0.7.
It should then download, bring up some instructions and then install,
you then need to restart Moz/Firebird.
If you have saved it to your desktop, this won't happen.
I save all such downloads to let me install them across several
machines. All you need do is subsequently open a Moz/FB browser window &
drag the xpi file into it; Firebird was then happy to install the file
from the local drive.
--
Michael
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