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Despite charset being discussed to death, and despite having followed
all of those threads, I still have problems.

http://www.tsmchughs.com/recipes/soda-bread

This page uses iso-8859-1 charset. From the headers:
Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1

Under ingredients are characters for fractions (188, 189, and 190) and
the degree character (176), characters which Lynx can display on
http://www.obviously.com/browsers/iso-8859-1.html
However, Lynx does not display the one half character on my soda-bread
page. What have I done wrong?

Then there's accented letters.

http://www.bonfete.biz/
http://www.julietremblay.com/about/philosophy.html

Both of those pages contain accented e (the first has an e circumflex,
the second, e aigu). It's fine in Mozilla, IE/Win, and Opera. But in
Lynx, these letters show us as strange-looking (to me, at any rate)
glyphs. This is true on my pages, and on the browser test page. Is
there anything I should do to fix it?

--
Brian
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Jul 20 '05 #1
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Brian <us*****@juliet remblay.com.inv alid-remove-this-part> wrote:
http://www.tsmchughs.com/recipes/soda-bread

Under ingredients are characters for fractions (188, 189, and 190)

What have I done wrong?


You need to use the metric system and forget about silly fractions.
http://www.bipm.org/en/si/
http://physics.nist.gov/cuu/Units/
http://www.metric.org/
http://www.metric1.org/
news:misc.metri c-system
Jul 20 '05 #2
Andreas Prilop wrote:
Brian <us*****@juliet remblay.com.inv alid-remove-this-part> wrote:
http://www.tsmchughs.com/recipes/soda-bread

Under ingredients are characters for fractions (188, 189, and 190)

What have I done wrong?

You need to use the metric system and forget about silly fractions.


:-D We left-ponders just can't make sense of metric. When someone
tells me that it was -5 degrees in Germany, I have to go to the
thermometer, look for -5 celsius, then see what that corresponds to in
Fahrenheit. Pathetic, I know, but it's what I was brought up with.

Then again, the recipe came from Ireland, so I guess it isn't only us.

--
Brian
follow the directions in my address to email me

Jul 20 '05 #3
On Tue, 16 Dec 2003 23:05:12 +0000, Brian wrote:
:-D We left-ponders just can't make sense of metric. When someone
tells me that it was -5 degrees in Germany, I have to go to the
thermometer, look for -5 celsius, then see what that corresponds to in
Fahrenheit.


And after looking up a value, you do cache the answer so you don't have to
look it up again any time soon, right?
Jul 20 '05 #4
On Tue, 16 Dec 2003, Brian wrote:
http://www.tsmchughs.com/recipes/soda-bread

Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1
Looks ok to me
Under ingredients are characters for fractions (188, 189, and 190) and
the degree character (176), characters which Lynx can display on
http://www.obviously.com/browsers/iso-8859-1.html
However, Lynx does not display the one half character on my soda-bread
page.
OH YES IT DOES! (I've been waiting for a chance to do that...)
What have I done wrong?
There's something wrong with -your- Lynx setup. Mine is displaying
just fine (it even supports utf-8). Your HTML is fine, and displaying
just fine and dandy here. (What about the threequarters?)
Then there's accented letters.

http://www.bonfete.biz/
http://www.julietremblay.com/about/philosophy.html

Both of those pages contain accented e (the first has an e circumflex,
the second, e aigu). It's fine in Mozilla, IE/Win, and Opera. But in
Lynx, these letters show us as strange-looking (to me, at any rate)
glyphs.


My suspicion is that you're using a CP850 (DOS) font and letting Lynx
think it's an iso-8859-1 font, or possibly vice versa. Go to the Lynx
options page and check what the "display character set" says. Take it
from there. Either change the font to match the configured "display
character set", or change the display to match the font ;-)

By rights you should be on c.i.w.browsers. misc for this discussion.
Your HTML authoring isn't the problem.

cheers
Jul 20 '05 #5
In article <VGLDb.573469$F m2.536232@attbi _s04> in
comp.infosystem s.www.authoring.html, Brian wrote:
However, Lynx does not display the one half character on my soda-bread
page. What have I done wrong? [snip]Both of those pages contain accented e (the first has an e circumflex,
the second, e aigu). It's fine in Mozilla, IE/Win, and Opera. But in
Lynx, these letters show us as strange-looking (to me, at any rate)
glyphs.


You need to tell Lynx which character set you're using, via a
setting in the Lynx.cfg file. You didn't tell us anything about your
system, so I have no idea whether my setting
CHARACTER_SET:c p437
will work for you.

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http://OakRoadSystems.com/
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Jul 20 '05 #6
In article <16************ *************@r rzn-user.uni-hannover.de>
in comp.infosystem s.www.authoring.html, Andreas Prilop wrote:
Brian <us*****@juliet remblay.com.inv alid-remove-this-part> wrote:
http://www.tsmchughs.com/recipes/soda-bread

Under ingredients are characters for fractions (188, 189, and 190)

What have I done wrong?


You need to use the metric system and forget about silly fractions.


Who are you and what have you done with Andreas?

--
Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Cortland County, New York, USA
http://OakRoadSystems.com/
HTML 4.01 spec: http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/
validator: http://validator.w3.org/
CSS 2 spec: http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-CSS2/
2.1 changes: http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS21/changes.html
validator: http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/
Jul 20 '05 #7
Owen Jacobson wrote:
On Tue, 16 Dec 2003 23:05:12 +0000, Brian wrote:
:-D We left-ponders just can't make sense of metric. When
someone tells me that it was -5 degrees in Germany, I have to go
to the thermometer, look for -5 celsius, then see what that
corresponds to in Fahrenheit.


And after looking up a value, you do cache the answer so you don't
have to look it up again any time soon, right?


Sure. But there's no 1-to-1 ration, so it doesn't do much good to
cache it. -5c = 22f, but 10c <> 37f.

--
Brian
follow the directions in my address to email me

Jul 20 '05 #8
Alan J. Flavell wrote:
On Tue, 16 Dec 2003, Brian wrote:
http://www.tsmchughs.com/recipes/soda-bread
Under ingredients are characters for fractions (188, 189, and
190) and the degree character (176), characters which Lynx can
display on http://www.obviously.com/browsers/iso-8859-1.html
However, Lynx does not display the one half character on my
soda-bread page.


OH YES IT DOES! (I've been waiting for a chance to do that...)


? Not sure what to make of that.
What have I done wrong?


There's something wrong with -your- Lynx setup. Mine is displaying
just fine (it even supports utf-8). Your HTML is fine, and
displaying just fine and dandy here. (What about the
threequarters?)


Sorry, didn't explain that completely. No fractions are displaying
correctly on the soda-bread page. However, the onequarter and onehalf
display on

http://www.obviously.com/browsers/iso-8859-1.html
[1]
This page declares a charset encoding in a meta tag, not in the
headers. Perhaps that makes a difference in my Lynx setup?
http://www.bonfete.biz/
http://www.julietremblay.com/about/philosophy.html

Both of those pages contain accented e (the first has an e
circumflex, the second, e aigu). in Lynx, these letters show up
as strange-looking glyphs.


My suspicion is that you're using a CP850 (DOS) font and letting
Lynx think it's an iso-8859-1 font, or possibly vice versa.


Will look into it.
By rights you should be on c.i.w.browsers. misc for this discussion.
Your HTML authoring isn't the problem.


So it seems. But when I saw that Lynx, as I have it configured,
displays e.g. onequarter on one page, but not another, you can see why
I thought I did something wrong on my end.

[1] To confuse things further, threequarter does not display on either
my page or on the iso 8859-1 test page.

--
Brian
follow the directions in my address to email me

Jul 20 '05 #9
Brian <us*****@juliet remblay.com.inv alid-remove-this-part> wrote:
http://www.tsmchughs.com/recipes/soda-bread However, Lynx does not display the one half character on my soda-bread
page. What have I done wrong?


What happens if you use the entity &frac12; ?

(I'm seeing it displayed correctly on lynx 2.8.4rel.1 under Linux)

Jul 20 '05 #10

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