Making Table In Very Top Left Corner

[dutch90]

Hi

I want to make my header table (with the logo and nav menu) start at
0,0. I tried

body {margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;
margin-left: 0px; padding:0px;}

but I still have about a 3-5px border the color of my page background
when viewed in both IE and FF. How can I make it have NO border at
all? I've seen a ton of sites that achieve this look.

Thanks in advance

[Els]

du*****@gmail.c om wrote:

Hi

I want to make my header table (with the logo and nav menu) start at
0,0. I tried

body {margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;
margin-left: 0px; padding:0px;}

Did you set margin and padding to 0 for the <htmlelement?

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[Beauregard T. Shagnasty]

Els wrote:

du*****@gmail.c om wrote:

>I want to make my header table (with the logo and nav menu) start at
0,0. I tried

body {margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;
margin-left: 0px; padding:0px;}

Did you set margin and padding to 0 for the <htmlelement?

...or maybe even for the <tableelement ? :-)

[Begs the question: why is dutch using a <tablefor non-tabular data?]

BTW, this is more efficient:

html, body, table { margin: 0; padding: 0; }

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-bts
-Motorcycles defy gravity; cars just suck.

[dutch90]

Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:

Els wrote:

du*****@gmail.c om wrote:

I want to make my header table (with the logo and nav menu) start at
0,0. I tried

body {margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;
margin-left: 0px; padding:0px;}

Did you set margin and padding to 0 for the <htmlelement?

..or maybe even for the <tableelement ? :-)

[Begs the question: why is dutch using a <tablefor non-tabular data?]

BTW, this is more efficient:

html, body, table { margin: 0; padding: 0; }

--
-bts
-Motorcycles defy gravity; cars just suck.

None of those solutions work. While they do bring the content closer
to the top left corner, there are still a few pixels between the edge
and the graphic.

How should I do my layout if not with tables?

[Beauregard T. Shagnasty]

du*****@gmail.c om wrote:

Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:

>Els wrote:

>>du*****@gmail.c om wrote:

I want to make my header table (with the logo and nav menu) start
at 0,0. I tried

body {margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;
margin-left: 0px; padding:0px;}

Did you set margin and padding to 0 for the <htmlelement?

..or maybe even for the <tableelement ? :-)

[Begs the question: why is dutch using a <tablefor non-tabular
data?]

BTW, this is more efficient:

html, body, table { margin: 0; padding: 0; }

None of those solutions work. While they do bring the content closer
to the top left corner, there are still a few pixels between the edge
and the graphic.

Ok, time for you to post a URL with a valid test case.

How should I do my layout if not with tables?

Use CSS. Jump into the 21st century.

I don't have any pages with logos stuffed at the corner, but here are a
couple sites of mine where tables are only used for real tabular data.

http://countryrode.com/
http://freezeblock.com/

--
-bts
-Motorcycles defy gravity; cars just suck.

[dutch90]

Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:

Ok, time for you to post a URL with a valid test case.

At the moment, it's only available on my local machine. I'll upload it
sometime tomorrow -- it's late now.

What are the advantages of using CSS for layout? Seems like it'd be
MUCH harder to design the pages if you use CSS for your basic layout.

[Beauregard T. Shagnasty]

du*****@gmail.c om wrote:

Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:

>Ok, time for you to post a URL with a valid test case.

At the moment, it's only available on my local machine. I'll upload
it sometime tomorrow -- it's late now.

Ok. Let us know when it's ready.

What are the advantages of using CSS for layout? Seems like it'd be
MUCH harder to design the pages if you use CSS for your basic layout.

It is MUCH easier once you grasp the concept of CSS.

Here are some templates that I like:
<http://benmeadowcroft. com/webdev/csstemplates/3-column.html>

--
-bts
-Motorcycles defy gravity; cars just suck.

[RC]

du*****@gmail.c om wrote:

>
body {margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;
margin-left: 0px; padding:0px;}

but I still have about a 3-5px border the color of my page background
when viewed in both IE and FF. How can I make it have NO border at
all? I've seen a ton of sites that achieve this look.

{ margin: 0; padding: 0; border-spacing: 0; border-width: 0;
border-style: solid; border-color: yourchoice; }

These are apply to box tags such table, th, td, tbody, H1 to H6, etc.

[Evertjan.]

RC wrote on 23 aug 2006 in comp.infosystem s.www.authoring.stylesheets:

{ margin: 0; padding: 0; border-spacing: 0; border-width: 0;
border-style: solid; border-color: yourchoice; }

if the border-width is 0, the color and style unnecessarily specified.
--
Evertjan.
The Netherlands.
(Please change the x'es to dots in my emailaddress)

[Christopher P. Winter]

On 22 Aug 2006 20:11:43 -0700, du*****@gmail.c om wrote:

>
Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:

>Els wrote:

du*****@gmail.c om wrote:

I want to make my header table (with the logo and nav menu) start at
0,0. I tried

body {margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;
margin-left: 0px; padding:0px;}

Did you set margin and padding to 0 for the <htmlelement?

..or maybe even for the <tableelement ? :-)

[Begs the question: why is dutch using a <tablefor non-tabular data?]

BTW, this is more efficient:

html, body, table { margin: 0; padding: 0; }

--
-bts
-Motorcycles defy gravity; cars just suck.

None of those solutions work. While they do bring the content closer
to the top left corner, there are still a few pixels between the edge
and the graphic.

I start every table I use like this:

<TABLE CellSpacing=0 CellPadding=0>

I've found it avoids the kind of problem you mention. If I want to add white
space, colors or other formatting, I do that later with CSS.