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IE7 bugs reported - anyone like to support them?

Hello,

Having discovered what I believe to be two CSS bugs in IE7, I have
submitted bug reports to MS. AFAIK, these don't get acted on until they
receive votes form others to say they are worth investigating.

As (I naively assume) it's in everyone's interest to see IE7 support CSS
properly, would anyone care to vote for these bugs, so that they might
get fixed before IE7 comes out of beta?

The bug IDs are 79985 and 79991 and you can find direct links to them
below (you'll need to log in with a passport account).

Thanks

https://connect.microsoft.com/feedba...edbackID=79991
https://connect.microsoft.com/feedba...edbackID=79985

--
Alan Silver
(anything added below this line is nothing to do with me)
May 29 '06
19 2197
To further the education of mankind, "Alan J. Flavell"
<fl*****@physic s.gla.ac.uk> vouchsafed:
On Tue, 30 May 2006, Neredbojias wrote:
Is this IE7 only?
I guess it depends on your settings in IE6.
In IE6 I get (onscreen):

<title>Take Cover</title>

<meta http-equiv=refresh
content="1; URL=http://ppewww.ph.gla.a c.uk/~flavell/tests/tests.txt">

<body onload="alert(' Boo! ... All your base are belong to us.')">


Well, that's the content of the spoof JPG file alright. But on IE6 I
get a security alert telling me that scripts are mostly harmless, and
inviting me to proceed (many users wouldn't even have configured that,
I suppose), and if I consent, then it does the js, after which it does
the refresh.

Hmmm, that was in Win2k. On an independent copy of IE6 in XP SP2,
which incidentally has been configured to "trust" our web server,
there's no security alert, it goes directly to the jscript-ed alert,
after which it does the refresh.
IOWs, no redirect or js.


It sounds as if you have yours configured more safely than many
another user, then...

But it looks as if yours has decided to display it as plain text,
despite having been told that it's a JPEG image. Which is at least
safer than parsing it as HTML.


Yes, and I could have easily reset a few things in the past, but darned
if I remember what.
I still say that Mozilla (which announces that the image cannot be
displayed because it contains errors) and Opera (which displays an
[IMAGE] placeholder where the broken image should have been) are
behaving to the spirit of RFC2616.


FYI, I also get the same response as Mark Parnell in ff.

(WinXP Sp2 w/ all updates.)

--
Neredbojias
Infinity has its limits.
May 31 '06 #11
VK

Alan J. Flavell wrote:
[1] except for the purposes of demonstration, anyway. What /does/
7beta do when confronted by this URL, by the way?
http://ppewww.ph.gla.ac.uk/~flavell/tests/spoof.jpg


It is not a bug, it is a completely correct behavior for HTTP. You
asked for a document spoof.jpg. At the moment of the initial request UA
has no means to know if it's an image, HTML document or some all new
electronic format requiring a plugin to install. It doesn't know it as
file extension is meaningless in HTTP: it doesn't prove anything and it
doesn't imply anything. Your server reported this resource to be
Content-Type of text/html. Any standard compliant UA has to try to
render it as text/html.

It is a very common mistake though to transfer Windows file extension
schemas onto Web.
See more at:
<http://groups.google.c om/group/comp.infosystem s.www.authoring .html/tree/browse_frm/thread/90b0fb057ff808f 4/2bd5a9bc6dab7dd 6?rnum=11&hl=en &_done=%2Fgroup %2Fcomp.infosys tems.www.author ing.html%2Fbrow se_frm%2Fthread %2F90b0fb057ff8 08f4%2F%3Fhl%3D en%26#doc_bffe6 ec35225b386>

May 31 '06 #12
Alan J. Flavell wrote:
[1] except for the purposes of demonstration, anyway. What /does/
7beta do when confronted by this URL, by the way?
http://ppewww.ph.gla.ac.uk/~flavell/tests/spoof.jpg

VK <sc**********@y ahoo.com> wrote: Your server reported this resource to be
Content-Type of text/html. Any standard compliant UA has to try to
render it as text/html.


Are you sure? When I request it, the server identifies it as

Content-Type: image/jpeg

Any compliant web browser will treat it as a (broken) JPEG image. Anything
that treats it as HTML is broken.
--
Darin McGrew, mc****@stanford alumni.org, http://www.rahul.net/mcgrew/
Web Design Group, da***@htmlhelp. com, http://www.HTMLHelp.com/

"If you loan $20 to someone you never see again, it was probably worth it."
May 31 '06 #13
VK

Darin McGrew wrote:
VK <sc**********@y ahoo.com> wrote:
Your server reported this resource to be
Content-Type of text/html. Any standard compliant UA has to try to
render it as text/html.
Are you sure? When I request it, the server identifies it as

Content-Type: image/jpeg


It is? Sorry then.
Any compliant web browser will treat it as a (broken) JPEG image. Anything
that treats it as HTML is broken.


Full ACK. I guess IE yet didn't have enough of security exploits over
spoofed images. After several major outbreaks they at least fixed the
hole for <img> element

<body>
<!-- this will not work -->
<img src="http://ppewww.ph.gla.a c.uk/~flavell/tests/spoof.jpg">
</body>

Well, just another reason do not use IE: not even out of love to
standards, but out of primitive security considerations.

P.S. To OP: I don't see big reason to file bugs to MSDN on this
particular issue. I presume (possibly wrongly) that the basic HTTP
mechanics is known to them. It took seven majot security outbreaks on
Win XP with spoofed images: then they funally fix it more-or-less
properly for <img>. Another few outbreaks - and they will fix this one
too. It is another common sense practice: never migrate on newer IE
until at least the first service pack is released with the most crutial
security fixes.

May 31 '06 #14
VK wrote:
Your server reported this resource to be Content-Type of text/html.
Any standard compliant UA has to try to render it as text/html.


Negative, Spock; you are wrong again. The server is reporting it as
image/jpeg. That's the whole point.

--
Jack.
May 31 '06 #15
On Wed, 31 May 2006, Mark Parnell wrote:
Deciding to do something for the good of humanity, "Alan J. Flavell"
<fl*****@physic s.gla.ac.uk> declared in
comp.infosystem s.www.authoring.stylesheets:
I still say that Mozilla (which announces that the image cannot be
displayed because it contains errors) and Opera (which displays an
[IMAGE] placeholder where the broken image should have been) are
behaving to the spirit of RFC2616.


FWIW, my copy of Firefox (1.5) just displays the URI as text


That's odd - thanks for the report. It seems to be version-dependent.

May 31 '06 #16
VK wrote:
Darin McGrew wrote:
VK <sc**********@y ahoo.com> wrote:
Your server reported this resource to be
Content-Type of text/html. Any standard compliant UA has to try to
render it as text/html.

Are you sure? When I request it, the server identifies it as

Content-Type: image/jpeg


It is? Sorry then.


That was a quick retreat. Had you asserted, "Your server reported this
resource to be Content-Type of text/html", without checking that that
was so?
May 31 '06 #17
In article <11************ **********@j55g 2000cwa.googleg roups.com>, VK
<sc**********@y ahoo.com> writes
P.S. To OP: I don't see big reason to file bugs to MSDN on this
particular issue.


I didn't, I reported two CSS bugs to them. This issue was introduced by
Mr Flavell, who was demonstrating that IE is full of security holes. Not
sure why he felt he needed to prove that as we all know its security is
as good as its CSS, but I've given up on this thread. I was trying to
help us all out and got flamed for it.

--
Alan Silver
(anything added below this line is nothing to do with me)
May 31 '06 #18
VK
Alan Silver wrote:
VK writes
P.S. To OP: I don't see big reason to file bugs to MSDN on this
particular issue.


I didn't, I reported two CSS bugs to them. This issue was introduced by
Mr Flavell, who was demonstrating that IE is full of security holes. Not
sure why he felt he needed to prove that as we all know its security is
as good as its CSS, but I've given up on this thread. I was trying to
help us all out and got flamed for it.


Sorry then. As your OP did not describe the nature of filed bugs, I
tried to get it out of the thread. The OT-flood is a killer...much
worser then non-proper quoting btw.

I have a problem with the links though:
"Error: The page you have requested is unavailable or you do not have
access."

(I furfilled the Microsoft Connect registration).

May 31 '06 #19
In article <11************ **********@i40g 2000cwc.googleg roups.com>, VK
<sc**********@y ahoo.com> writes
Alan Silver wrote:
VK writes
>P.S. To OP: I don't see big reason to file bugs to MSDN on this
>particular issue.
I didn't, I reported two CSS bugs to them. This issue was introduced by
Mr Flavell, who was demonstrating that IE is full of security holes. Not
sure why he felt he needed to prove that as we all know its security is
as good as its CSS, but I've given up on this thread. I was trying to
help us all out and got flamed for it.


Sorry then. As your OP did not describe the nature of filed bugs, I
tried to get it out of the thread. The OT-flood is a killer...much
worser then non-proper quoting btw.


Agreed.
I have a problem with the links though:
"Error: The page you have requested is unavailable or you do not have
access."

(I furfilled the Microsoft Connect registration).


Hmm, looking at the list of available programs, I can't see the one for
IE. I wonder if they took it off in the last day or so.

Try going to http://connect.microsoft.com/ and clicking on the
"Available programs" link. This will require you to log into Passport.
Once you are taken to the programs list, copy
https://connect.microsoft.com/feedba...spx?SiteID=136 into your
browser address bar. That takes you to the IE feedback page. If you
enter 79985 or 79991 as IDs, you can see the two bug reports.

I'm not happy that they've taken IE off the programs list. That sounds
like they've stopped feedback and are going ahead with what they have.
That means we'll get another buggy IE for the next few years. Ho hum, I
was really hoping they'd get it right this time. Wrong again ;-(

Ta ra

--
Alan Silver
(anything added below this line is nothing to do with me)
May 31 '06 #20

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