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How do I use a newsreader (e.g. Outlook Express) to read this forum.

I currently use it (OE) for Microsoft newsgroups but how do I set it up
for this one

Apr 17 '06 #1
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On Mon, 17 Apr 2006 09:53:30 +0200, Trevor L. <ta****@homemai l.com.au>
wrote:
How do I use a newsreader (e.g. Outlook Express)
OE is *not* a newsreader at all. It is an e-mail client. To get yourself a
usenet news client, download and install one of these:
- Forte Agent,
- Thinderbird,
- Opera (M2)
to read this forum.
This is not a forum. It is a newsgroup in usenet. Google for what those
are, or look here:
<URL:http://en.wikipedia.or g/wiki/Usenet>
<URL:http://en.wikipedia.or g/wiki/Newsgroup>
I currently use it (OE) for Microsoft newsgroups but how do I set it up
for this one


Get yourself a proper usenet newsclient first. Then set it up to use a
news server. Get details from your Internet Service Provider on what those
settings are, or get an account with a newsserver like news.individual .net
(not entirely free) if your ISP doesn't provide newsgroups. Download the
list of available newsgroups. Select those you want to participate in (or
just want to read). Et voila, you're done.
Since you currently use Google Groups to participate here, please read
<URL:http://www.safalra.com/special/googlegroupsrep ly/> before replying.
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Apr 17 '06 #2
Barbara de Zoete wrote:
On Mon, 17 Apr 2006 09:53:30 +0200, Trevor L. <ta****@homemai l.com.au>
wrote:
How do I use a newsreader (e.g. Outlook Express)
OE is *not* a newsreader at all. It is an e-mail client. To get yourself a
usenet news client, download and install one of these:
- Forte Agent,
- Thinderbird,
- Opera (M2)


Assuming that you actually meant "Thunderbir d", how can you assert it
to be a news client whilst denying the same of "Outlook Express"? Is
this Microsoft-bashing just for the sake of it?! Either they're both
news clients, or neither are. FWIW, I'd say that they were roughly as
bad as each other, just in different ways...

The OP may find this newsgroup of use:
<news:news.soft ware.readers>
or via Google Groups:
<http://groups.google.c om/group/news.software.r eaders>

Personally, I used to recommend 40tude Dialog, although it doesn't seem
to be under active development at the moment. I never could get on
with Forté Agent, but it's probably the most widely used "proper"
newsreader, either in the basic free version or the more advanced
paid-for edition.
Since you currently use Google Groups to participate here, please read
<URL:http://www.safalra.com/special/googlegroupsrep ly/> before replying.

Whatever happened to innocent until proven guilty?!
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Apr 17 '06 #3
fr*******@south ernskies.co.uk wrote:
Personally, I used to recommend 40tude Dialog, although it doesn't
seem to be under active development at the moment.


It's still waaay better than Google Groups! ;-)

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Apr 17 '06 #4
Trevor L. wrote:
How do I use a newsreader (e.g. Outlook Express) to read this forum.

I currently use it (OE) for Microsoft newsgroups but how do I set it up
for this one


I presume the MS groups you refer to are on news.microsoft. com. That is
a public news server run by MS for its own groups. To access general
Usenet groups you need to subscribe to a news server. Your ISP may
provide one as part of your Internet access subscription. If not you'll
need to find a free one or pay for a subscription to one such as
Giganews. Once you determine which you're using you can find out the
parameters needed to set up an account in OE or any other newsreader.
Typically you'll need:

NNTP Server name (in my case, news.comcast.ne t)
Port number used (usually 119)
Whether or not a secure connection is required (aka SSL)
Whether or not authentication is required
Your logon and password given you by the service provider

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Apr 17 '06 #5
Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:
fr*******@south ernskies.co.uk wrote:
Personally, I used to recommend 40tude Dialog, although it doesn't
seem to be under active development at the moment.


It's still waaay better than Google Groups! ;-)


The world's longest-running beta programme! {rolls eyes}

As a confirmed Firefox user, I think it's a shame that Thunderbird
doesn't come up to scratch as a newsreader. IMHO, YMMV, etc, etc.
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Apr 17 '06 #6
"Barbara de Zoete" <tr******@pretl etters.net> writes:
OE is *not* a newsreader at all. It is an e-mail client.


Huh? OE is most certainly a news client. It's just a horribly bad one. ;-)

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Apr 17 '06 #7
Ed Mullen <ed@edmullen.ne t> writes:
I presume the MS groups you refer to are on news.microsoft. com. That
is a public news server run by MS for its own groups. To access
general Usenet groups you need to subscribe to a news server. Your
ISP may provide one as part of your Internet access subscription. If
not you'll need to find a free one or pay for a subscription to one
such as Giganews.


BTW, many public servers carry the microsoft.* groups as well. So you
probably won't have to go to the trouble of switching back and forth
between servers.

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Apr 17 '06 #8
On Mon, 17 Apr 2006, Barbara de Zoete wrote:
On Mon, 17 Apr 2006 09:53:30 +0200, Trevor L.
<ta****@homemai l.com.au> wrote:
How do I use a newsreader (e.g. Outlook Express)
OE is *not* a newsreader at all.


I think you're somewhat over-stating the case here!

http://www.xs4all.nl/~js/gnksa/gnksa-evaluations.html

It certainly rated /evaluation/ as a newsreader, even if it failed.

As usual with anything from the same house, its default settings
qualify not only for an Anti Social Behaviour Order for widespread
failure to respect the netiquette, but also as a potential security
hazard for its own user.

But those who are sufficiently devoted to using software from that
house have published various recipes by which it can be tamed
(OEquotefix etc.), and I've seen some postings done with it which I
couldn't really fault, even if most of its users seem to be at fault.
It is an e-mail client.
Is it? I suspect it has at least as many faults as an Internet mail
client, as it has as an NNTP client.
To get yourself a
usenet news client, download and install one of these:
- Forte Agent,
Interestingly, that also failed the stringent criteria of the GNKSA...
(As did PINE...).
- Thinderbird,


Which looks as if it would also fail, based on the fact that the GNKSA
failed Mozilla.

I would go along with your recommendation to get a better news client
than OE: only the more dedicated/informed/sophisticated users seem to
be able to tame it. But it's a question of scale, really, according
to the GNKSA ratings.

I *believe* I'm capable of making netiquette-conforming postings with
PINE, despite it failing the gnksa ratings. But it's a heads-up to be
reminded that it fails their test criteria. In fact, older versions
of OE got a better score than PINE (which I find rather alarming[1]),
but it looks as if OE got worse, version by version.

funny old world.

[1] Looking at the detailed tests, I think I could refute at least
some of their failure reports, but I don't want to be accused of
special pleading, so I'll stop there.
Apr 17 '06 #9
Alan J. Flavell wrote:
[1] Looking at the detailed tests, I think I could refute at least
some of their failure reports, but I don't want to be accused of
special pleading, so I'll stop there.


Uh, that page was last updated in July 2002! =-O

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