I've been working on an online books site for almost four years now,
and have been putting smart quotes in each book. This is a major
hassle, and I'm beginning to think it's not worth it.
Is there a good reason not to use them in the first place? It would
certainly be simple to convert back to straight quotes.
Ian
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broadcast on comp.infosystem s. www.authoring.html: I've been working on an online books site for almost four years now,
and have been putting smart quotes in each book. This is a major
hassle, and I'm beginning to think it's not worth it.
Is there a good reason not to use them in the first place? It would
certainly be simple to convert back to straight quotes.
use <q>. Let the reader decide.
Ian
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On Thu, 30 Mar 2006 00:04:12 -0600, Lars Eighner
<us****@larseig hner.com> wrote: use <q>. Let the reader decide.
This doesn't render in IE. Is there a way around that?
Ian
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Deciding to do something for the good of humanity, Ian Rastall
<id*******@gmai l.com> declared in comp.infosystem s. www.authoring.html: This doesn't render in IE. Is there a way around that?
Use a real browser? :-)
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On Thu, 30 Mar 2006 17:19:43 +1000, Mark Parnell
<we*******@clar kecomputers.com .au> wrote: Deciding to do something for the good of humanity, Ian Rastall
<id*******@gma il.com> declared in comp.infosystem s.www.authoring.html:
This doesn't render in IE. Is there a way around that?
Use a real browser? :-)
Myself, or my users? Fifty percent of them use IE.
Ian
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In article <eg************ *************** *****@4ax.com>,
Ian Rastall <id*******@gmai l.com> wrote: I've been working on an online books site for almost four years now,
and have been putting smart quotes in each book. This is a major
hassle, and I'm beginning to think it's not worth it.
Is there a good reason not to use them in the first place? It would
certainly be simple to convert back to straight quotes.
In case he doesn't answer: <http://webtips.dan.inf o/char.html> might
discourage you. Kudo's on your online books.
leo
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On Wed, 29 Mar 2006 22:26:59 -0800, Leonard Blaisdell
<le*@greatbasin .com> wrote: In case he doesn't answer: <http://webtips.dan.inf o/char.html> might
discourage you. Kudo's on your online books.
Thanks, Leo. I really appreciate that. I've been using Unicode for the
smart quotes, so hopefully they're rendering correctly. I think
perhaps I'm guilty of thinking out loud on Usenet. :-) The problem is
whether or not it's worth it to do a search and replace on every file,
especially as this will introduce errors. I try to be as professional
as possible with the books, and curly quotes are standard in print.
IOW, it's just a dilemma. :-)
Ian
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Ian Rastall wrote: I've been working on an online books site for almost four years now,
and have been putting smart quotes in each book. This is a major
hassle, and I'm beginning to think it's not worth it.
Is there a good reason not to use them in the first place? It would
certainly be simple to convert back to straight quotes.
There aren't any problems with using them, provided that they are
encoded correctly in the specified encoding. If you're using UTF-8,
there is no problem at all. All modern browsers support UTF-8 and all
modern systems would have fonts with the appropriate glyphs available.
If, however, you're declaring ISO-8859-1, for example, but really saving
as Windows-1252, then there is a problem (unless you're using character
references instead of typing the real character to include them).
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Ian Rastall: I've been working on an online books site for almost four years now, and
have been putting smart quotes in each book. This is a major hassle, and
I'm beginning to think it's not worth it.
Toby Inkster Keep the curly quotes -- curly quotes are great -- but abandon HTML for
most content.
Use Textile instead:
http://www.textism.com/tools/textile/
http://jimandlissa.com/project/textilephp
Huh? Using psuedo-code is somehow better? They just seem to offer a way
of automatically converting plain text into HTML (a useful tool), and
something else which converts in quasi-HTML/text (dubious value). Sure,
I'd support the idea of using a decent authoring or conversion tool,
rather than hand typing HTML, but I wouldn't recommend "abandoning HTML".
Some time ago I tidied up some crappy HTML versions of some novels. It
involved little more than a few iterations of search and replace to
correct the punctuation (e.g. something like a space then a quote being
converted to opening quotes, etc.). Only a few rules were needed to do it
well, and that was with a plain text editor. There are some word
processors that would do that for you.
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