How was I to know that "top" means "top" in MSIE6 ??
I was testing <a name="top"></a> at the top of the page
with <a href="#top>go to top</a> at the bottom of the page.
It always worked in IE so I drew conclusions only to
discover that it worked even with <a name="xtop"></a>
but not in Opera. IE6 understands "top" to mean *the top* !
Are there other magic words in MSIE (or other browsers?)
Mason C 19  3289 
Once upon a time *Mason A. Clark* wrote: How was I to know that "top" means "top" in MSIE6 ??
I was testing <a name="top"></a> at the top of the page
with <a href="#top>go to top</a> at the bottom of the page.
It always worked in IE so I drew conclusions only to
discover that it worked even with <a name="xtop"></a>
but not in Opera. IE6 understands "top" to mean *the top* !
Are there other magic words in MSIE (or other browsers?)
I don't think IE understand anything of the kind :)
When you use a link to "#any thing" and the browser don't find
anything that match that, I belive it just jump up to the top of the page.
--
/Arne
Top posters will be ignored. Quote the part you
are replying to, no more and no less! And don't
quote signatures, thank you.
Mason A. Clark wrote: How was I to know that "top" means "top" in MSIE6 ??
I was testing <a name="top"></a> at the top of the page
with <a href="#top>go to top</a> at the bottom of the page.
It always worked in IE so I drew conclusions only to
discover that it worked even with <a name="xtop"></a>
but not in Opera. IE6 understands "top" to mean *the top* !
If you *did* have <a name="top"> at the top of the page, then how did
you conclude, when <a href="#top"> worked, that IE6 understands "top"
automatically to mean *the top*?
There's nothing magic about "top" in IE. What's magic is the IE
incorrectly treats *any* href="#abcde" as a request for the top if the
name abcde isn't defined on the page.
On Thu, 07 Jul 2005 23:50:52 +0200, Arne <in*****@domain .invalid> wrote: Once upon a time *Mason A. Clark* wrote: How was I to know that "top" means "top" in MSIE6 ??
I was testing <a name="top"></a> at the top of the page
with <a href="#top>go to top</a> at the bottom of the page.
It always worked in IE so I drew conclusions only to
discover that it worked even with <a name="xtop"></a>
but not in Opera. IE6 understands "top" to mean *the top* !
Are there other magic words in MSIE (or other browsers?)
I don't think IE understand anything of the kind :)
When you use a link to "#any thing" and the browser don't find
anything that match that, I belive it just jump up to the top of the page.
Vas you dere, Charlie? IE6 does NOT go to top with <a href="xxxtop">
IE6 DOES go to the top with <a href="top"> even if there's NO <a name="xxxtop>
Opera goes to top if <a name="top"> is there, not otherwise.
IE6 understands "top" to mean top. Opera does not.
Mason C awaiting proof otherwise (not on MY browsers)
On Thu, 07 Jul 2005 17:51:53 -0400, Harlan Messinger
<hm************ *******@comcast .net> wrote: Mason A. Clark wrote: How was I to know that "top" means "top" in MSIE6 ??
I was testing <a name="top"></a> at the top of the page
with <a href="#top>go to top</a> at the bottom of the page.
It always worked in IE so I drew conclusions only to
discover that it worked even with <a name="xtop"></a>
but not in Opera. IE6 understands "top" to mean *the top* !
If you *did* have <a name="top"> at the top of the page, then how did
you conclude, when <a href="#top"> worked, that IE6 understands "top"
automaticall y to mean *the top*?
Did I not type clearly? IE6 goes to the top whether or not there's a
<a name="top"> at the top. Opera does not.
There's nothing magic about "top" in IE. What's magic is the IE
incorrectly treats *any* href="#abcde" as a request for the top if the
name abcde isn't defined on the page.
Not on my IE6 it doesn't. I tried #abcde and #top with <a name="xtop">
at the top.
Mason C I know nothing about html; just use it.
Mason A. Clark <ma************ *@ix.netcom.com > wrote: Opera goes to top if <a name="top"> is there, not otherwise.
Nor should it.
IE6 understands "top" to mean top.
IE "understand s" nothing.
Opera does not.
Where did you get the illusion that "top" is a predefined keyword?
Mason C awaiting proof otherwise (not on MY browsers)
Your difficulties seem to result from the fact that you take IE's
behaviour as the correct behaviour. Wake up to the real world, correct
behaviour is defined by specifications, not by a badly broken piece of
junk such as IE.
--
Spartanicus
On Fri, 08 Jul 2005 07:32:39 GMT, Spartanicus <in*****@invali d.invalid> wrote: Mason A. Clark <ma************ *@ix.netcom.com > wrote:
Opera goes to top if <a name="top"> is there, not otherwise.
Nor should it.
IE6 understands "top" to mean top.
IE "understand s" nothing.
Opera does not.
Where did you get the illusion that "top" is a predefined keyword?
Because IE6, that real-world abomination, recognizes it. Mason C awaiting proof otherwise (not on MY browsers)
Your difficulties seem to result from the fact that you take IE's
behaviour as the correct behaviour. Wake up to the real world, correct
behaviour is defined by specifications, not by a badly broken piece of
junk such as IE.
Which just happens to be the most common browser. In the real world
I would like *my* web pages to be operational in that browser.
Mason C you live in your world, I'll live in mine
Mason A. Clark wrote: On Fri, 08 Jul 2005 07:32:39 GMT, Spartanicus <in*****@invali d.invalid> wrote:
Mason A. Clark <ma************ *@ix.netcom.com > wrote:
Opera goes to top if <a name="top"> is there, not otherwise.
Nor should it.
IE6 understands "top" to mean top.
IE "understand s" nothing.
Opera does not.
Where did you get the illusion that "top" is a predefined keyword?
Because IE6, that real-world abomination, recognizes it. Mason C awaiting proof otherwise (not on MY browsers)
Your difficulties seem to result from the fact that you take IE's
behaviour as the correct behaviour. Wake up to the real world, correct
behaviour is defined by specifications, not by a badly broken piece of
junk such as IE.
Which just happens to be the most common browser. In the real world
I would like *my* web pages to be operational in that browser.
You're missing the point.
If you write a nice <a name="top" id="top"></a> in the top of your
page, it will still work in IE. The fact that you /can/ also omit it
in IE, does not mean you /should/.
If you want to please IE users and annoy all the other people, yes, go
ahead and build on IE's understanding of the word 'top'. If you want
everybody to be able to click a back to top link, use a proper anchor,
like the specs define, and like even IE follows. The fact that IE
follows any #top link, regardless of there being an anchor, is only
useful for webdesigners who should be aware to test their links in
other browsers than IE, cause IE wouldn't notice the absence of the
anchor.
--
Els http://locusmeus.com/
Sonhos vem. Sonhos vão. O resto é imperfeito.
- Renato Russo -
oops -- see post above Els's
Mason A. Clark wrote: On Thu, 07 Jul 2005 17:51:53 -0400, Harlan Messinger
<hm************ *******@comcast .net> wrote:
Mason A. Clark wrote:
How was I to know that "top" means "top" in MSIE6 ??
I was testing <a name="top"></a> at the top of the page
with <a href="#top>go to top</a> at the bottom of the page.
It always worked in IE so I drew conclusions only to
discover that it worked even with <a name="xtop"></a>
but not in Opera. IE6 understands "top" to mean *the top* !
If you *did* have <a name="top"> at the top of the page, then how did
you conclude, when <a href="#top"> worked, that IE6 understands "top"
automatical ly to mean *the top*?
Did I not type clearly? IE6 goes to the top whether or not there's a
<a name="top"> at the top. Opera does not.
Which doesn't mean that "IE6 understands 'top' to mean *the top*", which
was your conclusion.
Now I've gone and tested it and I see that you're right--href="#top"
works in IE but href="#asldfkja lsd", for example, doesn't, even when
when no names or IDs are on the page at all. Maybe it was NN4 that used
to jump to the top for any undefined name and I was misremembering. Sorry. This thread has been closed and replies have been disabled. Please start a new discussion. Similar topics | |
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