I am trying to achieve a simple page layout using only divs and css. I know that
people bad mouth IE for non-conformance, but in this case IE's(6.0)behavi our is
entirely the way I expect, and Gecko (Firefox/1.0) is, well, not.
I have a left menu div, and a right content div, float left, the width of which
is auto. My intention is that the content should fill the space to the right of
the menu.
In IE putting a float right div in the right content div forces the right
content to expand to fill the space to the right of the menu. In Gecko, it
expands to fill the whole width of the page, and drops the right div *below* the
menu.
Incidentally Dreamweaver's preview pane follows IE
How do I achieve my intention in both browsers?
TIA
Jim
<html>
<head>
<title>demot</title>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1">
<link href="demo.css" rel="stylesheet " type="text/css">
</head>
<body>
<div class = "leftmenu">
<p>left menu</p>
<p>black</p>
</div>
<div class = "rightblock ">
rightblock blue
<div class="floater" > floater red </div>
</body>
</html>
=============== =============== ==============
div.leftmenu
{
float: left;
border: thin solid #000000;
}
div.rightblock
{
float: left;
width: auto;
border: solid #000099;
}
div.floater
{
float: right;
margin: 5px 5px 5px 5px;
border: 1px solid #FF0000;
} 6  5342 
"Jim Lawton" <uc**@use.your. initiative> wrote in message
news:4v******** *************** *********@4ax.c om... I am trying to achieve a simple page layout using only divs and css. I know
that
people bad mouth IE for non-conformance, but in this case
IE's(6.0)behavi our is
entirely the way I expect, and Gecko (Firefox/1.0) is, well, not.
The odds are that Firefox is doing the right thing.
<html>
You have no DOCTYPE. This will trigger quirks mode. See what happens if
you add (say) an HTML 4.01 DOCTYPE, which will trigger standards mode.
in comp.infosystem s. www.authoring.html, Jim Lawton wrote: I am trying to achieve a simple page layout using only divs and css. I know that
people bad mouth IE for non-conformance, but in this case IE's(6.0)behavi our is
entirely the way I expect, and Gecko (Firefox/1.0) is, well, not.
I have a left menu div, and a right content div, float left, the width of which
is auto. My intention is that the content should fill the space to the right of
the menu.
You have 2 floats with width auto. Correct behaviuour by CSS2 spec is to
render both of them full width, one above another. MacIE5 does that
Correct by CSS2.1 is to shrink wrap floats, but shrink wrapping algorithm
is not defined, so, both renderings sound correct.
In IE putting a float right div in the right content div forces the right
content to expand to fill the space to the right of the menu. In Gecko, it
expands to fill the whole width of the page, and drops the right div *below* the
menu.
This is unfortunately nit really possible whiout CSS tables, which IE
doesn't support. There is n+1 more or less working workarounds though
Incidentally Dreamweaver's preview pane follows IE
Most likely because it uses IE for display the site?
How do I achieve my intention in both browsers?
URL?
--
Lauri Raittila <http://www.iki.fi/lr> <http://www.iki.fi/zwak/fonts>
On Mon, 20 Dec 2004 08:43:23 -0500, "C A Upsdell"
<cupsdell0311XX X@-@-@XXXrogers.com> wrote: "Jim Lawton" <uc**@use.your. initiative> wrote in message
news:4v******* *************** **********@4ax. com...I am trying to achieve a simple page layout using only divs and css. I know
that
people bad mouth IE for non-conformance, but in this case
IE's(6.0)behavi our is
entirely the way I expect, and Gecko (Firefox/1.0) is, well, not.
The odds are that Firefox is doing the right thing.
This I know - what I want is consistent behaviour - who is compliant is
inconsequential :-)
<html>
You have no DOCTYPE. This will trigger quirks mode. See what happens if
you add (say) an HTML 4.01 DOCTYPE, which will trigger standards mode.
sorry, I omitted it from the example - it doesn't help :-(
thanks anyway,
Jim
On Mon, 20 Dec 2004 15:53:51 +0200, Lauri Raittila <la***@raittila .cjb.net>
wrote:
Kiitos vastaustanne :-) Kyla", puhun va"ha"n suomea - a"la" kysya" kuinka ... You have 2 floats with width auto. Correct behaviuour by CSS2 spec is to
render both of them full width, one above another. MacIE5 does that
Sorry I wasn't clear - only the right div has width auto, the HTML & CSS were
posted in the OP, but now I've stuck it here :-
http://www.jimlawton.info/cssdemo
or
http://www.jimlawton.info/cssdemo/index.htm
Correct by CSS2.1 is to shrink wrap floats, but shrink wrapping algorithm
is not defined, so, both renderings sound correct.
sound :-)
In IE putting a float right div in the right content div forces the right
content to expand to fill the space to the right of the menu. In Gecko, it
expands to fill the whole width of the page, and drops the right div *below* the
menu.
This is unfortunately nit really possible whiout CSS tables, which IE
doesn't support. There is n+1 more or less working workarounds though
ha! - but I'm not exactly an expert, and that's why I asked the question ...
Incidentally Dreamweaver's preview pane follows IE
Most likely because it uses IE for display the site?
you're right - I stopped concentrating
How do I achieve my intention in both browsers?
URL?
see earlier
kiitos taas,
Jim
in comp.infosystem s. www.authoring.html, Jim Lawton wrote: On Mon, 20 Dec 2004 15:53:51 +0200, Lauri Raittila <la***@raittila .cjb.net>
wrote:
You have 2 floats with width auto. Correct behaviuour by CSS2 spec is to
render both of them full width, one above another. MacIE5 does that
Sorry I wasn't clear - only the right div has width auto,
Initial width is auto, and you didn't have width in you OP.
http://www.jimlawton.info/cssdemo
There you have width. So why don't you use margin for that right side
thingy instead of floating it, supposing you do float it because you want
to prevent problem of having block under menu?
As I said, auto in float in CSS2.1 will shrink wrap. What happens with
that red floater should have no effect on left menu and rightblock.
--
Lauri Raittila <http://www.iki.fi/lr> <http://www.iki.fi/zwak/fonts>
On Mon, 20 Dec 2004 17:59:19 +0200, Lauri Raittila <la***@raittila .cjb.net>
wrote: in comp.infosystem s.www.authoring.html, Jim Lawton wrote: On Mon, 20 Dec 2004 15:53:51 +0200, Lauri Raittila <la***@raittila .cjb.net>
wrote:
>You have 2 floats with width auto. Correct behaviuour by CSS2 spec is to
>render both of them full width, one above another. MacIE5 does that
Sorry I wasn't clear - only the right div has width auto,
Initial width is auto, and you didn't have width in you OP.
http://www.jimlawton.info/cssdemo
There you have width. So why don't you use margin for that right side
thingy instead of floating it, supposing you do float it because you want
to prevent problem of having block under menu?
As I said, auto in float in CSS2.1 will shrink wrap. What happens with
that red floater should have no effect on left menu and rightblock.
thanks for the help
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