Hi
I've posted this message couple of days ago, but I can't find it now,
so sorry if you see it twice...
Anyways - I have a text box, and I want my users to be able to write
only in english inside it. I want to prevent the Alt+Shift option of
switching to other languages.
Thanks alot - Oren
Jul 23 '05
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On Mon, 08 Nov 2004 18:04:34 -0500, DU <dr*******@hotN OSPAMmail.com>
wrote: Jan Roland Eriksson wrote:
On 7 Nov 2004 07:00:25 -0800, or*********@hot mail.com (OrenFlekser)
wrote:Anyways - I have a text box, and I want my users to be able to write
only in english inside it.
How are you suggesting to stop my fingertips from typing any random
sequence of letters in a text box?
Maybe with an onkeyup event handler checking if the character typed is
listed in the english character set. If not, then cancelling the event.
Aha! So any randomly typed sequence of characters within the range of
[A-Za-z] constitutes English?
No wonder I have had trouble deciphering some of the messages in this NG
then. Thanks for making my day, I needed that :-)
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Rex
On 9 Nov 2004 11:27:32 -0800, da*@tobias.name (Daniel R. Tobias) wrote: or*********@ho tmail.com (OrenFlekser) wrote in message news:<c1******* *************** ****@posting.go ogle.com>... Anyways - I have a text box, and I want my users to be able to write
only in english inside it. I want to prevent the Alt+Shift option of
switching to other languages.
I'm unaware of an "Alt+Shift" option to "switch languages" -- what
browser and platform has this?
It's a Windows thing that has been around for many versions of that
OP-system as I do remember.
You do need a Win platform and you do need to install more than one
language option in it. For US sold PC's that never happens, they come
defaulted to the limited US language keyboard layouts with no other
option available.
Personally I can toggle between English and Swedish keyboard layouts
with the "Left-Alt+Shift" option on my Swedish keyboard. Not that I
would like that much though, because my Swedish keyboard starts to work
funny.
As only one example, my very normal keys for characters '', '' and ''
becomes '{', '"' and ':' and there are other characters that changes
place on the keyboard too, basically I lose typing speed doing it.
Note that the normal US-English character set is just a subset of what
we use in the rest of the world so I have no problems what so ever to
write a message in English on a Swedish keyboard. All US-English
characters are there, and more.
In fact there is a difference between the standard US-English keyboard
and the "Queens English" keyboard layout too. From a Win point of view
they are considered to be two different languages :-)
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Rex
Jan Roland Eriksson (jr****@newsguy .com) wrote:
: On 9 Nov 2004 11:27:32 -0800, da*@tobias.name (Daniel R. Tobias) wrote:
: >or*********@ho tmail.com (OrenFlekser) wrote in message news:<c1******* *************** ****@posting.go ogle.com>...
: >> Anyways - I have a text box, and I want my users to be able to write
: >> only in english inside it. I want to prevent the Alt+Shift option of
: >> switching to other languages.
: >
: >I'm unaware of an "Alt+Shift" option to "switch languages" -- what
: >browser and platform has this?
: It's a Windows thing that has been around for many versions of that
: OP-system as I do remember.
: You do need a Win platform and you do need to install more than one
: language option in it. For US sold PC's that never happens, they come
: defaulted to the limited US language keyboard layouts with no other
: option available.
Not exactly true. The Alt key plus the numeric keypad allows you to enter
arbitrary values, (and the character to which the value refers then
depends on the character set in use). (for 8 bit character sets, that is,
I'm not sure how this ties into character values for unicode where the
value is > 256)
Jan Roland Eriksson wrote: On Mon, 08 Nov 2004 18:04:34 -0500, DU <dr*******@hotN OSPAMmail.com>
wrote:
Jan Roland Eriksson wrote:
On 7 Nov 2004 07:00:25 -0800, or*********@hot mail.com (OrenFlekser)
wrote:
Anyways - I have a text box, and I want my users to be able to write
only in english inside it.
How are you suggesting to stop my fingertips from typing any random
sequence of letters in a text box?
Maybe with an onkeyup event handler checking if the character typed is
listed in the english character set. If not, then cancelling the event.
Aha! So any randomly typed sequence of characters within the range of
[A-Za-z] constitutes English?
Where have I suggested anything remotedly close to that?
An English webpage starts with a properly defined root element with an
accordingly defined lang attribute.
No wonder I have had trouble deciphering some of the messages in this NG
then. Thanks for making my day, I needed that :-)
I don't understand your arrogance here. I was merely trying to provide a
possible solution to the OP post. I did not suggest my post was the
ultimate and definitive solution. In the chuncks you intentionally
snipped without even indicating so, I certainly recommended to the OP to
provide more explanations, contextual info, etc...
DU
--
The site said to use Internet Explorer 5 or better... so I switched to
Mozilla 1.7.3 :)
Jan Roland Eriksson wrote: You do need a Win platform and you do need to install more than one
language option in it. For US sold PC's that never happens, they come
defaulted to the limited US language keyboard layouts with no other
option available.
Don't they at least have the US-International keyboard layout? This can
be useful for typing characters with accents, as it has dead keys. (Note
that it is possible to create two "languages" , both English, with two
different keyboard layouts, say US and US-International, and switch
between them with Left-Alt+Ctrl).
In fact there is a difference between the standard US-English keyboard
and the "Queens English" keyboard layout too. From a Win point of view
they are considered to be two different languages :-)
No, they are two different keyboard layouts. Windows (at least later
versions, don't know about earlier ones) makes a sensible distinction
between language and keyboard layout.
Gertjan.
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at 03:06 PM, yf***@vtn1.vict oria.tc.ca (Malcolm Dew-Jones) said: Not exactly true. The Alt key plus the numeric keypad allows you to
enter arbitrary values,
That has nothing to do with switching languages.
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OrenFlekser wrote: I've posted this message couple of days ago, but I can't find it now,
so sorry if you see it twice...
Hmm... I wonder why it was ignored the first time. Perhaps because you
have not phrased your question in any useful way. However, you've done
a good job at recieving some rather hilarious replies which kept me
entertained for a little while. :-)
Anyways - I have a text box, and I want my users to be able to write
only in english inside it. I want to prevent the Alt+Shift option of
switching to other languages.
As has been mentioned, it is impossible to successfully limit user input
to a specifc language. However, my crystal ball is telling me that this
is actually a character encoding issue, and if, for example, you're
using ISO-8859-1 when a user enters characters that don't exist in that
character set, then those characters get screwed up in your system and
don't display properly when output to a web page. It's a fairly common
problem,a nd the only reason I can think of for you wanting to restrict
to, what I assume means, ASCII characters.
The best way to handle this is to use UTF-8, which, being unicode, can
accept all characters a user can possibly enter. So, if I want to enter
some random smiley ☺ faces ☻ and non-ascii characters, or even write in
العربrية (Aabic), 台語 (Chinese), தமிழ் (Tamil), or any other language,
then the only problems are caused if you don't have unicode fonts
available on your system to read it.
The only other way is to use server side validation to ensure that all
characters submitted are valid, and return an error message to the user
if they are not.
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On Tue, 09 Nov 2004 23:39:15 -0500, DU <dr*******@hotN OSPAMmail.com>
wrote: Jan Roland Eriksson wrote:
On Mon, 08 Nov 2004 18:04:34 -0500, DU <dr*******@hotN OSPAMmail.com>
wrote:
Jan Roland Eriksson wrote:
On 7 Nov 2004 07:00:25 -0800, or*********@hot mail.com (OrenFlekser)
wrote:
>Anyways - I have a text box, and I want my users to be able to write
>only in english inside it.
How are you suggesting to stop my fingertips from typing any random
sequence of letters in a text box?
Maybe with an onkeyup event handler checking if the character typed is
listed in the english character set. If not, then cancelling the event.
Aha! So any randomly typed sequence of characters within the range of
[A-Za-z] constitutes English?
Where have I suggested anything remotedly close to that?
Few lines above from here?
Partial quote from the OP ...
"only in english"
Partial quote from you ...
"checking if the character typed is listed in the english character set"
An English webpage starts with a properly defined root element with an
accordingly defined lang attribute.
That part of markup is only a _hint_ that the major part of the page
content /may/ be written in english, nothing more. It certainly does not
prohibit any one from typing jibberish in any text box that might be
presented, not even if it's combined with your suggested method of
checking for valid characters.
No wonder I have had trouble deciphering some of the messages...
I don't understand your arrogance here.
There was no intent to be arrogant...
I just forgot that humor is OT here, sorry :-)
I was merely trying to provide a possible solution to the OP post.
As seen from a technical aspect; you did not succeed.
Even if you start to check typed characters to see if they belong to a
certain language character repertoire, your method will fail totally to
indicate the language in use.
E.g. let's take the word 'park'
In English it might mean "a specifically defined natural environment" in
one context but the same word can also be used as "I need to park my
car".
In Swedish, the exact same word is used as a "label" for "a specifically
defined natural environment".
Note that the spelling of 'park' is identical in English and Swedish and
at least one of its meanings is a shared property between the two
languages.
Now how should I use your suggested character check method to help me
decide the language in use when some one types 'park' in my text box?
...I certainly recommended to the OP to provide more explanations,
contextual info, etc...
Sure, no argument there.
All the best...
--
Rex
On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 09:20:01 +0100, Gertjan Klein <gk****@xs4all. nl>
wrote: Jan Roland Eriksson wrote:
You do need a Win platform and you do need to install more than one
language option in it. For US sold PC's that never happens, they come
defaulted to the limited US language keyboard layouts with no other
option available.
Don't they at least have the US-International keyboard layout?
Double checking my "HP Pavilion ze4325us" laptop, purchased at "Best
Buy" in Cincinnati with Win-XP pre-installed, less than one year ago.
Nope, no extravagant keyboard functions there :-)
(but Win-XP allows me to install support for other languages and
keyboard layouts on this laptop too of course, it just did not come with
any extras available "out of the box")
[...]
In fact there is a difference between the standard US-English keyboard
and the "Queens English" keyboard layout too. From a Win point of view
they are considered to be two different languages :-)
No, they are two different keyboard layouts. Windows (at least later
versions, don't know about earlier ones) makes a sensible distinction
between language and keyboard layout.
Maybe that's your experience; mine is that a major MS-Win application do
change its selection of default spell/grammar checker database too.
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