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Need help with authoring a framset tag

Hello,
After reading all the past post and going to the faq on frameset tags I
am still don't understand how this works and need some help on getting this
validated if possible. Here is the error message I receive after trying to
validate it.

Line 444, column 23: element "ILAYER" undefined
<ilayer name="waves234i "><div id="waves341">< img src="wanim.gif"
alt="animated
You have used the element named above in your document, but the document
type you are using does not define an element of that name. This error is
often caused by incorrect use of the "Strict" document type with a document
that uses frames (e.g. you must use the "Frameset" document type to get the
"<frameset

1: <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"
"http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/loose.dtd">
2: <html>
3: <head>
4: <title>test</title>
5: <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html;
charset=iso-8859-1">
etc
439: <table width=468 border=0 align="center" cellpadding=0 cellspacing=0
style="border: 1px;"><tr><td>
440: <div id="surfer3" style="position :absolute"><img src="surferflip .gif"
alt="flipwindsu rfer"></div>
441: <div id="surfer4" style="position :absolute"><img src="surfer.gif "
alt="windsurfer "></div>
442: <div id="surfer5" style="position :absolute"><img src="surferblue .gif"
alt="blue"></div>
443: <div id="surfer6" style="position :absolute"><img src="surfergree n.gif"
alt="green"></div>
444: <ilayer name="waves234i "><div id="waves341">< img src="wanim.gif"
alt="animatedwa ves"></div></ilayer>
445: </td></tr></table>
</head>
</html>

I really would appreciate some help.
thanks
Jul 23 '05 #1
7 2291


mike wrote:
After reading all the past post and going to the faq on frameset tags I
am still don't understand how this works and need some help on getting this
validated if possible. Here is the error message I receive after trying to
validate it.

Line 444, column 23: element "ILAYER" undefined


You can't validate it, since no such element exists in the specification you
are trying to validate against.

Thor

--
http://www.anta.net/
Jul 23 '05 #2
Sorry some of my original post got chopped off. Here is the rest of the
stuff
<frameset>" element), or by using vendor proprietary extensions such as
"<spacer>" or "<marquee>" (this is usually fixed by using CSS to achieve the
desired effect instead).

"mike" <nogood@.invali d> wrote in message
news:m0******** *******@newsrea d1.news.pas.ear thlink.net...
Hello,
After reading all the past post and going to the faq on frameset tags I am still don't understand how this works and need some help on getting this validated if possible. Here is the error message I receive after trying to
validate it.

Line 444, column 23: element "ILAYER" undefined
<ilayer name="waves234i "><div id="waves341">< img src="wanim.gif"
alt="animated
You have used the element named above in your document, but the document
type you are using does not define an element of that name. This error is
often caused by incorrect use of the "Strict" document type with a document that uses frames (e.g. you must use the "Frameset" document type to get the "<frameset

1: <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"
"http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/loose.dtd">
2: <html>
3: <head>
4: <title>test</title>
5: <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html;
charset=iso-8859-1">
etc
439: <table width=468 border=0 align="center" cellpadding=0 cellspacing=0
style="border: 1px;"><tr><td>
440: <div id="surfer3" style="position :absolute"><img src="surferflip .gif" alt="flipwindsu rfer"></div>
441: <div id="surfer4" style="position :absolute"><img src="surfer.gif "
alt="windsurfer "></div>
442: <div id="surfer5" style="position :absolute"><img src="surferblue .gif"
alt="blue"></div>
443: <div id="surfer6" style="position :absolute"><img src="surfergree n.gif" alt="green"></div>
444: <ilayer name="waves234i "><div id="waves341">< img src="wanim.gif"
alt="animatedwa ves"></div></ilayer>
445: </td></tr></table>
</head>
</html>

I really would appreciate some help.
thanks

Jul 23 '05 #3
I know that there is not a ilayer element but what about the frameset tag
won't that work?
"Thor Kottelin" <th**@anta.ne t> wrote in message
news:41******** *******@anta.ne t...


mike wrote:
After reading all the past post and going to the faq on frameset tags I am still don't understand how this works and need some help on getting this validated if possible. Here is the error message I receive after trying to validate it.

Line 444, column 23: element "ILAYER" undefined
You can't validate it, since no such element exists in the specification

you are trying to validate against.

Thor

--
http://www.anta.net/

Jul 23 '05 #4
On Sat, 28 Aug 2004 02:30:57 GMT, mike <nogood@.invali d> wrote:
I know that there is not a ilayer element but what about the frameset tag
won't that work?


Please post in conversational order, after the quoted material.

If your doctype is:

<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"
"http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/loose.dtd">

as you posted, than no, transitional allows all regular and deprecated
elements, except fot frameset elements. To use all elements, including
frameset, use this.

<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Frameset//EN"
"http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/frameset.dtd">
Jul 23 '05 #5


mike wrote:

I know that there is not a ilayer element but what about the frameset tag
won't that work?


I don't know what you are trying to achieve, but regardless, frames are
probably the wrong way to do it. You might want to look into server-side
mechanisms.

Thor

--
http://www.anta.net/
Jul 23 '05 #6

"Neal" <ne*****@yahoo. com> wrote in message
news:op******** ******@news.ind ividual.net...
On Sat, 28 Aug 2004 02:30:57 GMT, mike <nogood@.invali d> wrote:
I know that there is not a ilayer element but what about the frameset tag won't that work?


Please post in conversational order, after the quoted material.

If your doctype is:

<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"
"http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/loose.dtd">

as you posted, than no, transitional allows all regular and deprecated
elements, except fot frameset elements. To use all elements, including
frameset, use this.

<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Frameset//EN"
"http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/frameset.dtd">

I have tried this and now I am getting some error message. I was wondering
where should I add the <frameset> tag?
Jul 23 '05 #7
"mike" <nogood@.invali d> wrote:
"Neal" <ne*****@yahoo. com> wrote:
On Sat, 28 Aug 2004 02:30:57 GMT, mike <nogood@.invali d> wrote:
> I know that there is not a ilayer element but what about the frameset
> tag won't that work?


If your doctype is:

<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"
"http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/loose.dtd">

as you posted, than no, transitional allows all regular and deprecated
elements, except fot frameset elements. To use all elements, including
frameset, use this.

<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Frameset//EN"
"http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/frameset.dtd">

I have tried this and now I am getting some error message. I was wondering
where should I add the <frameset> tag?


The frameset element goes around all the frame elements and the
noframes element in your frameset page, e.g.:

<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Frameset//EN"
"http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/frameset.dtd">
<html>
<head>
<title>Frames are yucky</title>
</head>
<frameset>
<frame>
<frame>
<noframes>lovel y content</noframes>
</frameset>
</html>

But if you are still talking about the same page as earlier in the
thread you do not have a frameset page, you should not use the
frameset doctype and you should not be trying to include a frameset
element.

You have focussed on one part of a _generic_ error message from the
validator when you should be focussing on another part. The solution
to your problem is simple: delete the ilayer element - it doesn't
exist in any version of HTML and only Netscape 4.x ever supported it.

What are you trying to do with that ilayer? The closest HTML
equivalent is iframe which does not require a frameset doctype or
frameset element.

Steve

--
"My theories appal you, my heresies outrage you,
I never answer letters and you don't like my tie." - The Doctor

Steve Pugh <st***@pugh.net > <http://steve.pugh.net/>
Jul 23 '05 #8

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