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http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1759,1820667,00.asp


The database market grew by 10.3 percent in 2004, fueled largely by hunger for business
intelligence and analytics, according to numbers released by the Gartner Group on Monday.
With 34.1 percent of the overall market, IBM holds a slim margin over its closest
competitor, Oracle Corp., which maintains 33.7 percent of the overall market. Microsoft
Corp. follows up with 20 percent of the market. NCR Teradata Corp. controls 2.9 percent,
Sybase Inc. claims 2.3 percent and others hold 6.6 percent. ADVERTISEMENT
The market growth figure doubles that of RDBMS (relational DBMS) market growth in 2003,
which was 5 percent, according to Gartner Inc.'s Colleen Graham, who authored the report.
"[The growth] came a lot from BI, data warehousing and data analysis," she said. "You can
tell that if you look at [NCR]; they had really strong growth, and they're a
data-warehousing database. That's where we're seeing a lot of this come from."
The market grew from just under $7.1 billion in 2003 to nearly $7.8 billion in terms of new
license sales. The continuing weakness of the U.S. dollar artificially inflated market
growth to some degree, Graham said, accounting for some 3 to 4 percent of overall growth.
"[Overall market growth] was probably somewhere between 6 and 7 percent," she said, after
considering that sales outside of the United States, when converted to U.S. dollars,
contributed more to vendor revenue because of currency conversion, as opposed to increased
demand.
Microsoft and Teradata led in terms of overall growth, with 18 percent and 17 percent,
respectively. However, there was no clear winner in market share overall. Because the
difference between RDBMS revenue for IBM and Oracle was less than $30 million, it is
statistically too close to declare a winner, according to the report, titled "No Clear
Winner in Overall RDBMS Market Share Race."
Read details here about Oracle's PIM Data Hub.
Winner or no winner, vendors were quick to point out the rosy parts of the picture.
Willie Hardie, Oracle's senior director of Database Product Marketing, found evidence that
the market is buying into the database company's grid vision and its pushing of RAC (Real
Application Clusters) clustering on commodity servers running on the Linux platform.
"Forget about databases specifically and look at server sales," said Hardie, in Redwood
Shores, Calif. "The growth market in servers is in small servers, with clustering of small
servers. That matches closely to Oracle's grid model: don't buy big servers; cluster
together boxes running Linux or Windows. No doubt there's a trend in the industry moving in
that direction, somewhat reflected in Oracle's growth in 2004."
The market for RDBMS on Linux, meanwhile, is red-hot. While still a relatively small part of
the overall RDBMS market, the Linux segment grew 118 percent in 2004, more than doubling
from $300 million in 2003 to more than $650 million in 2004.
Gartner found that Oracle has a growing lead over IBM in this subsection of the market, with
growth of 155 percent. Oracle now controls 80.5 percent of the Linux RDBMS market, up from
69 percent a year ago. IBM, meanwhile, slipped in 2004, coming to rest at 16.5 percent of
the market from year-ago figures of 28.4 percent of the market.
The Gartner report pointed out that Linux RDBMS revenue includes sales of Oracle 9i RAC,
which adds about a 50 percent premium on top of regular RDBMS license fees for that company.
Bob Picciano, vice president of database servers for IBM, said Oracle's growing Linux lead
is artificially puffed up by those add-on RAC fees. "What Oracle is doing is, they're
migrating their own Unix base to the Linux platform," said Picciano, in Somers, N.Y. "In the
process, they're increasing the cost of software to those clients, by introducing the cost
of RAC."

"Few users are acquiring Oracle for the Linux platform without the RAC option," the Gartner
report states. "Almost 20 percent to 30 percent of Oracle RAC deployments are estimated to
be on the Linux platform."
Hardie said the demand for Linux shows no signs of abating, coming from virtually all the
vertical industries and including implementations of data warehousing on clustered RAC-that
clearly not being a solution for the needs of a niche, he said.
IBM is set to fight back with DB2 features that compete with RAC. In particular, the
company's release of "Stinger," the next version of DB2, is optimized for Version 2.6 of the
Linux kernel, a move that's geared toward helping database clusters scale higher and perform
faster.
It is also intended to better exploit the speed of 64-bit databases and servers that rely on
multiple processors.
IBM's promise is that such multiprocessor servers can be joined in Linux clusters, as with
DB2 ICE (Integrated Cluster Environment), an integrated package that combines DB2 and
eServer Linux Cluster 1350 (xSeries, 325, BladeCenter) to provide a solution that, according
to IBM, can cluster from two to 1,000 servers and pick up nodes at the rate of four per
hour.
Picciano also pointed to Stinger's HADR (High Availability and Disaster Recovery) as being
the key to IBM's ability to deliver high availability at a fraction of the cost of Oracle
RAC.
"With RAC, the client needs to license all the processors on both boxes, and they need to
license the RAC feature," he said. "With HADR, you pay for processors on the primary [box]
and for one processor on the standby box. So the cost savings is much greater."
Picciano said that HADR has helped IBM do battle in sales situations where IBM and Microsoft
are in the room. "We're winning 89.4 percent of the time we're engaging against Oracle and
Microsoft" according to Q1 2005 numbers, he said, thanks not only to HADR but also to a
retrained sales team and the decision to price servers at the chip level rather than the
core level.
Microsoft, predictably, scoffed at the growth of the Linux database market. "Look at it:
It's a small market," said Tom Rizzo, director of product management for SQL Server. "You'd
expect some growth there, from such a small base."
Rizzo pointed to the healthy growth in the Windows database market as evidence that Windows
is "eating away at the Linux camp" rather than the other way around. The RDBMS market on the
Windows server platform grew 10 percent in 2004. Microsoft's market share grew 18 percent in
this segment.
Click here to read more about the increasing market share of open-source database
PostgreSQL.
That gave Microsoft 50.9 percent of the Windows RDBMS market, up from 47.4 percent in 2003.
IBM posted a 4 percent decline in this market segment, which followed a nearly 12 percent
decline in 2003-a slippage Gartner attributed to weak adoption of DB2 8.
Graham said she was surprised to see Microsoft do so well, given that the release of SQL
Server 2005, code-named Yukon, has been delayed so often and so long.
"We do our forecast and say 'OK, each of these vendors, which is coming out with a new
product? Where's each one been in the product lifecycle?'" she said. "To see Microsoft have
growth this strong, even before they release Yukon, that struck me as interesting. People
aren't waiting."

Much of Microsoft's success likely goes back to the overall interest in BI, Graham said-a
premise that Rizzo seconded. "BI is a tremendous growth driver for us, especially Reporting
Services, which we've seen a ton of customers buying and deploying," he said.
"That's why we invested so heavily in BI technologies across SQL Server. We put a down
payment many years ago, and now it's paying off in terms of revenue growth," Rizzo added,
pointing to the company's release of OLAP (online analytical processing) services in 1998,
which was the first of a string of BI technologies integrated into the database itself.
"People looked at us like we were kind of crazy," Rizzo said. "[They asked,] 'Why is
Microsoft integrating BI into the database? Most people buy it separately.' We're saying .
integrate it seamlessly into the database. All the people who thought we had four heads and
eight eyes, you look at the strategies of our competitors, they're starting to go down the
same path we started down years ago."

Nov 12 '05 #1
68 5174
rkusenet wrote:
http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1759,1820667,00.asp

The database market grew by 10.3 percent in 2004, fueled largely by
hunger for business intelligence and analytics, according to numbers
released by the Gartner Group on Monday.
With 34.1 percent of the overall market, IBM holds a slim margin over
its closest competitor, Oracle Corp., which maintains 33.7 percent of
the overall market. Microsoft Corp. follows up with 20 percent of the
market. NCR Teradata Corp. controls 2.9 percent, Sybase Inc. claims 2.3
percent and others hold 6.6 percent. ADVERTISEMENT
The market growth figure doubles that of RDBMS (relational DBMS) market
growth in 2003, which was 5 percent, according to Gartner Inc.'s Colleen
Graham, who authored the report.
"[The growth] came a lot from BI, data warehousing and data analysis,"
she said. "You can tell that if you look at [NCR]; they had really
strong growth, and they're a data-warehousing database. That's where
we're seeing a lot of this come from."
The market grew from just under $7.1 billion in 2003 to nearly $7.8
billion in terms of new license sales. The continuing weakness of the
U.S. dollar artificially inflated market growth to some degree, Graham
said, accounting for some 3 to 4 percent of overall growth.
"[Overall market growth] was probably somewhere between 6 and 7
percent," she said, after considering that sales outside of the United
States, when converted to U.S. dollars, contributed more to vendor
revenue because of currency conversion, as opposed to increased demand.
Microsoft and Teradata led in terms of overall growth, with 18 percent
and 17 percent, respectively. However, there was no clear winner in
market share overall. Because the difference between RDBMS revenue for
IBM and Oracle was less than $30 million, it is statistically too close
to declare a winner, according to the report, titled "No Clear Winner in
Overall RDBMS Market Share Race."
Read details here about Oracle's PIM Data Hub.
Winner or no winner, vendors were quick to point out the rosy parts of
the picture.
Willie Hardie, Oracle's senior director of Database Product Marketing,
found evidence that the market is buying into the database company's
grid vision and its pushing of RAC (Real Application Clusters)
clustering on commodity servers running on the Linux platform.
"Forget about databases specifically and look at server sales," said
Hardie, in Redwood Shores, Calif. "The growth market in servers is in
small servers, with clustering of small servers. That matches closely to
Oracle's grid model: don't buy big servers; cluster together boxes
running Linux or Windows. No doubt there's a trend in the industry
moving in that direction, somewhat reflected in Oracle's growth in 2004."
The market for RDBMS on Linux, meanwhile, is red-hot. While still a
relatively small part of the overall RDBMS market, the Linux segment
grew 118 percent in 2004, more than doubling from $300 million in 2003
to more than $650 million in 2004.
Gartner found that Oracle has a growing lead over IBM in this subsection
of the market, with growth of 155 percent. Oracle now controls 80.5
percent of the Linux RDBMS market, up from 69 percent a year ago. IBM,
meanwhile, slipped in 2004, coming to rest at 16.5 percent of the market
from year-ago figures of 28.4 percent of the market.
The Gartner report pointed out that Linux RDBMS revenue includes sales
of Oracle 9i RAC, which adds about a 50 percent premium on top of
regular RDBMS license fees for that company.
Bob Picciano, vice president of database servers for IBM, said Oracle's
growing Linux lead is artificially puffed up by those add-on RAC fees.
"What Oracle is doing is, they're migrating their own Unix base to the
Linux platform," said Picciano, in Somers, N.Y. "In the process, they're
increasing the cost of software to those clients, by introducing the
cost of RAC."

"Few users are acquiring Oracle for the Linux platform without the RAC
option," the Gartner report states. "Almost 20 percent to 30 percent of
Oracle RAC deployments are estimated to be on the Linux platform."
Hardie said the demand for Linux shows no signs of abating, coming from
virtually all the vertical industries and including implementations of
data warehousing on clustered RAC-that clearly not being a solution for
the needs of a niche, he said.
IBM is set to fight back with DB2 features that compete with RAC. In
particular, the company's release of "Stinger," the next version of DB2,
is optimized for Version 2.6 of the Linux kernel, a move that's geared
toward helping database clusters scale higher and perform faster.
It is also intended to better exploit the speed of 64-bit databases and
servers that rely on multiple processors.
IBM's promise is that such multiprocessor servers can be joined in Linux
clusters, as with DB2 ICE (Integrated Cluster Environment), an
integrated package that combines DB2 and eServer Linux Cluster 1350
(xSeries, 325, BladeCenter) to provide a solution that, according to
IBM, can cluster from two to 1,000 servers and pick up nodes at the rate
of four per hour.
Picciano also pointed to Stinger's HADR (High Availability and Disaster
Recovery) as being the key to IBM's ability to deliver high availability
at a fraction of the cost of Oracle RAC.
"With RAC, the client needs to license all the processors on both boxes,
and they need to license the RAC feature," he said. "With HADR, you pay
for processors on the primary [box] and for one processor on the standby
box. So the cost savings is much greater."
Picciano said that HADR has helped IBM do battle in sales situations
where IBM and Microsoft are in the room. "We're winning 89.4 percent of
the time we're engaging against Oracle and Microsoft" according to Q1
2005 numbers, he said, thanks not only to HADR but also to a retrained
sales team and the decision to price servers at the chip level rather
than the core level.
Microsoft, predictably, scoffed at the growth of the Linux database
market. "Look at it: It's a small market," said Tom Rizzo, director of
product management for SQL Server. "You'd expect some growth there, from
such a small base."
Rizzo pointed to the healthy growth in the Windows database market as
evidence that Windows is "eating away at the Linux camp" rather than the
other way around. The RDBMS market on the Windows server platform grew
10 percent in 2004. Microsoft's market share grew 18 percent in this
segment.
Click here to read more about the increasing market share of open-source
database PostgreSQL.
That gave Microsoft 50.9 percent of the Windows RDBMS market, up from
47.4 percent in 2003. IBM posted a 4 percent decline in this market
segment, which followed a nearly 12 percent decline in 2003-a slippage
Gartner attributed to weak adoption of DB2 8.
Graham said she was surprised to see Microsoft do so well, given that
the release of SQL Server 2005, code-named Yukon, has been delayed so
often and so long.
"We do our forecast and say 'OK, each of these vendors, which is coming
out with a new product? Where's each one been in the product
lifecycle?'" she said. "To see Microsoft have growth this strong, even
before they release Yukon, that struck me as interesting. People aren't
waiting."

Much of Microsoft's success likely goes back to the overall interest in
BI, Graham said-a premise that Rizzo seconded. "BI is a tremendous
growth driver for us, especially Reporting Services, which we've seen a
ton of customers buying and deploying," he said.
"That's why we invested so heavily in BI technologies across SQL Server.
We put a down payment many years ago, and now it's paying off in terms
of revenue growth," Rizzo added, pointing to the company's release of
OLAP (online analytical processing) services in 1998, which was the
first of a string of BI technologies integrated into the database itself.
"People looked at us like we were kind of crazy," Rizzo said. "[They
asked,] 'Why is Microsoft integrating BI into the database? Most people
buy it separately.' We're saying . integrate it seamlessly into the
database. All the people who thought we had four heads and eight eyes,
you look at the strategies of our competitors, they're starting to go
down the same path we started down years ago."


My only criticism of this is that it is backward ... not forward
looking. Well that and the fact that it is from Gartner Group which
means it is irrelevant.
--
Daniel A. Morgan
http://www.psoug.org
da******@x.wash ington.edu
(replace x with u to respond)
Nov 12 '05 #2
rkusenet wrote:
IBM is set to fight back with DB2 features that compete with RAC. In
particular, the company's release of "Stinger," the next version of DB2,


Did anybody else (other than me) read this to imply that Lisa doesn't
even know that Stinger is out ?
Nov 12 '05 #3
Mark Townsend wrote:
rkusenet wrote:
IBM is set to fight back with DB2 features that compete with RAC. In
particular, the company's release of "Stinger," the next version of DB2,

Did anybody else (other than me) read this to imply that Lisa doesn't
even know that Stinger is out ?

...or at least she needs to do a better job proof reading.

--
Serge Rielau
DB2 SQL Compiler Development
IBM Toronto Lab
Nov 12 '05 #4
Daniel,

What makes this year different from any other? It's always
backwards-looking, but that's the only way to capture actual data.

Larry Edelstein

DA Morgan wrote:
rkusenet wrote:
http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1759,1820667,00.asp

The database market grew by 10.3 percent in 2004, fueled largely by
hunger for business intelligence and analytics, according to numbers
released by the Gartner Group on Monday.
With 34.1 percent of the overall market, IBM holds a slim margin over
its closest competitor, Oracle Corp., which maintains 33.7 percent of
the overall market. Microsoft Corp. follows up with 20 percent of the
market. NCR Teradata Corp. controls 2.9 percent, Sybase Inc. claims
2.3 percent and others hold 6.6 percent. ADVERTISEMENT
The market growth figure doubles that of RDBMS (relational DBMS)
market growth in 2003, which was 5 percent, according to Gartner
Inc.'s Colleen Graham, who authored the report.
"[The growth] came a lot from BI, data warehousing and data analysis,"
she said. "You can tell that if you look at [NCR]; they had really
strong growth, and they're a data-warehousing database. That's where
we're seeing a lot of this come from."
The market grew from just under $7.1 billion in 2003 to nearly $7.8
billion in terms of new license sales. The continuing weakness of the
U.S. dollar artificially inflated market growth to some degree, Graham
said, accounting for some 3 to 4 percent of overall growth.
"[Overall market growth] was probably somewhere between 6 and 7
percent," she said, after considering that sales outside of the United
States, when converted to U.S. dollars, contributed more to vendor
revenue because of currency conversion, as opposed to increased demand.
Microsoft and Teradata led in terms of overall growth, with 18 percent
and 17 percent, respectively. However, there was no clear winner in
market share overall. Because the difference between RDBMS revenue for
IBM and Oracle was less than $30 million, it is statistically too
close to declare a winner, according to the report, titled "No Clear
Winner in Overall RDBMS Market Share Race."
Read details here about Oracle's PIM Data Hub.
Winner or no winner, vendors were quick to point out the rosy parts of
the picture.
Willie Hardie, Oracle's senior director of Database Product Marketing,
found evidence that the market is buying into the database company's
grid vision and its pushing of RAC (Real Application Clusters)
clustering on commodity servers running on the Linux platform.
"Forget about databases specifically and look at server sales," said
Hardie, in Redwood Shores, Calif. "The growth market in servers is in
small servers, with clustering of small servers. That matches closely
to Oracle's grid model: don't buy big servers; cluster together boxes
running Linux or Windows. No doubt there's a trend in the industry
moving in that direction, somewhat reflected in Oracle's growth in 2004."
The market for RDBMS on Linux, meanwhile, is red-hot. While still a
relatively small part of the overall RDBMS market, the Linux segment
grew 118 percent in 2004, more than doubling from $300 million in 2003
to more than $650 million in 2004.
Gartner found that Oracle has a growing lead over IBM in this
subsection of the market, with growth of 155 percent. Oracle now
controls 80.5 percent of the Linux RDBMS market, up from 69 percent a
year ago. IBM, meanwhile, slipped in 2004, coming to rest at 16.5
percent of the market from year-ago figures of 28.4 percent of the
market.
The Gartner report pointed out that Linux RDBMS revenue includes sales
of Oracle 9i RAC, which adds about a 50 percent premium on top of
regular RDBMS license fees for that company.
Bob Picciano, vice president of database servers for IBM, said
Oracle's growing Linux lead is artificially puffed up by those add-on
RAC fees. "What Oracle is doing is, they're migrating their own Unix
base to the Linux platform," said Picciano, in Somers, N.Y. "In the
process, they're increasing the cost of software to those clients, by
introducing the cost of RAC."

"Few users are acquiring Oracle for the Linux platform without the RAC
option," the Gartner report states. "Almost 20 percent to 30 percent
of Oracle RAC deployments are estimated to be on the Linux platform."
Hardie said the demand for Linux shows no signs of abating, coming
from virtually all the vertical industries and including
implementations of data warehousing on clustered RAC-that clearly not
being a solution for the needs of a niche, he said.
IBM is set to fight back with DB2 features that compete with RAC. In
particular, the company's release of "Stinger," the next version of
DB2, is optimized for Version 2.6 of the Linux kernel, a move that's
geared toward helping database clusters scale higher and perform faster.
It is also intended to better exploit the speed of 64-bit databases
and servers that rely on multiple processors.
IBM's promise is that such multiprocessor servers can be joined in
Linux clusters, as with DB2 ICE (Integrated Cluster Environment), an
integrated package that combines DB2 and eServer Linux Cluster 1350
(xSeries, 325, BladeCenter) to provide a solution that, according to
IBM, can cluster from two to 1,000 servers and pick up nodes at the
rate of four per hour.
Picciano also pointed to Stinger's HADR (High Availability and
Disaster Recovery) as being the key to IBM's ability to deliver high
availability at a fraction of the cost of Oracle RAC.
"With RAC, the client needs to license all the processors on both
boxes, and they need to license the RAC feature," he said. "With HADR,
you pay for processors on the primary [box] and for one processor on
the standby box. So the cost savings is much greater."
Picciano said that HADR has helped IBM do battle in sales situations
where IBM and Microsoft are in the room. "We're winning 89.4 percent
of the time we're engaging against Oracle and Microsoft" according to
Q1 2005 numbers, he said, thanks not only to HADR but also to a
retrained sales team and the decision to price servers at the chip
level rather than the core level.
Microsoft, predictably, scoffed at the growth of the Linux database
market. "Look at it: It's a small market," said Tom Rizzo, director of
product management for SQL Server. "You'd expect some growth there,
from such a small base."
Rizzo pointed to the healthy growth in the Windows database market as
evidence that Windows is "eating away at the Linux camp" rather than
the other way around. The RDBMS market on the Windows server platform
grew 10 percent in 2004. Microsoft's market share grew 18 percent in
this segment.
Click here to read more about the increasing market share of
open-source database PostgreSQL.
That gave Microsoft 50.9 percent of the Windows RDBMS market, up from
47.4 percent in 2003. IBM posted a 4 percent decline in this market
segment, which followed a nearly 12 percent decline in 2003-a slippage
Gartner attributed to weak adoption of DB2 8.
Graham said she was surprised to see Microsoft do so well, given that
the release of SQL Server 2005, code-named Yukon, has been delayed so
often and so long.
"We do our forecast and say 'OK, each of these vendors, which is
coming out with a new product? Where's each one been in the product
lifecycle?'" she said. "To see Microsoft have growth this strong, even
before they release Yukon, that struck me as interesting. People
aren't waiting."

Much of Microsoft's success likely goes back to the overall interest
in BI, Graham said-a premise that Rizzo seconded. "BI is a tremendous
growth driver for us, especially Reporting Services, which we've seen
a ton of customers buying and deploying," he said.
"That's why we invested so heavily in BI technologies across SQL
Server. We put a down payment many years ago, and now it's paying off
in terms of revenue growth," Rizzo added, pointing to the company's
release of OLAP (online analytical processing) services in 1998, which
was the first of a string of BI technologies integrated into the
database itself.
"People looked at us like we were kind of crazy," Rizzo said. "[They
asked,] 'Why is Microsoft integrating BI into the database? Most
people buy it separately.' We're saying . integrate it seamlessly into
the database. All the people who thought we had four heads and eight
eyes, you look at the strategies of our competitors, they're starting
to go down the same path we started down years ago."

My only criticism of this is that it is backward ... not forward
looking. Well that and the fact that it is from Gartner Group which
means it is irrelevant.

Nov 12 '05 #5
Larry wrote:
Daniel,

What makes this year different from any other? It's always
backwards-looking, but that's the only way to capture actual data.

Larry Edelstein


Gartner also makes predictions. Not accurate ones but predictions.

And if one looks at previous Gartner Group statements, 1, 2, 3 years
later, what were they worth? I mean except to Gartner Group's revenues?
--
Daniel A. Morgan
http://www.psoug.org
da******@x.wash ington.edu
(replace x with u to respond)
Nov 12 '05 #6
"DA Morgan" <da******@psoug .org> wrote in message
news:1117485555 .324290@yasure. ..
Larry wrote:
Daniel,

What makes this year different from any other? It's always
backwards-looking, but that's the only way to capture actual data.

Larry Edelstein


Gartner also makes predictions. Not accurate ones but predictions.


Don't know if it's the same in the US, but over here in Blighty the
supposedly independent analysts Gartner have attracted a lot of criticism
for advocating off-shoring in their editorials whilst at the same time
having an active consultancy arm that, er, helps companies off-shore!
Nov 12 '05 #7
Neil Truby wrote:
"DA Morgan" <da******@psoug .org> wrote in message
news:1117485555 .324290@yasure. ..
Larry wrote:
Daniel,

What makes this year different from any other? It's always
backwards-looking, but that's the only way to capture actual data.

Larry Edelstein


Gartner also makes predictions. Not accurate ones but predictions.

Don't know if it's the same in the US, but over here in Blighty the
supposedly independent analysts Gartner have attracted a lot of criticism
for advocating off-shoring in their editorials whilst at the same time
having an active consultancy arm that, er, helps companies off-shore!


In my opinion, and it is only "my" opinion ... Gartner Group has the
ethics of a great white shark in a feeding frenzy. Not sure about
"here in Blighty" but they are most certainly a blight: If not a boil.
--
Daniel A. Morgan
http://www.psoug.org
da******@x.wash ington.edu
(replace x with u to respond)
Nov 12 '05 #8
rkusenet wrote:
respectively. However, there was no clear winner in market share overall. Because the
difference between RDBMS revenue for IBM and Oracle was less than $30 million, it is
statistically too close to declare a winner, according to the report, titled "No Clear
Winner in Overall RDBMS Market Share Race."
Shewt! Brace yourselves, here comes another IBM aquisition!
If all else fails, BUY market share. Who will it be this time?
Teradata?

"Few users are acquiring Oracle for the Linux platform without the RAC option," the Gartner
report states.
They gotta be joking...

to IBM, can cluster from two to 1,000 servers and pick up nodes at the rate of four per
hour.
Attaboy! Let's hope they don't "pick their noses" as well...

are in the room. "We're winning 89.4 percent of the time we're engaging against Oracle and
Microsoft" according to Q1 2005 numbers, he said, thanks not only to HADR but also to a
retrained sales team and the decision to price servers at the chip level rather than the
core level.
No doubt helped as well by the false "Oracle vars" who end up
selling exclusively IBM solutions. Want examples?

We're saying .
integrate it seamlessly into the database. All the people who thought we had four heads and
eight eyes, you look at the strategies of our competitors, they're starting to go down the
same path we started down years ago."


Amazing. IE versus Netscape all over again. And people
STILL buy this crap...
Im summary, another typical Gartner report: wanna see who
is in front? Who pays more?

Nov 12 '05 #9
Noons wrote:
"Few users are acquiring Oracle for the Linux platform without the RAC option," the Gartner
report states.
They gotta be joking...


They aren't joking ... they ARE a joke.

If Oracle was selling that many RAC licenses IBM would be out of
business.
We're saying .
integrate it seamlessly into the database. All the people who thought we had four heads and
eight eyes, you look at the strategies of our competitors, they're starting to go down the
same path we started down years ago."


Amazing. IE versus Netscape all over again. And people
STILL buy this crap...


Worked once: And as P.T. Barnum said ....
Im summary, another typical Gartner report: wanna see who
is in front? Who pays more?


That's the way the work. Opinions for sale to the highest bidder.
--
Daniel A. Morgan
http://www.psoug.org
da******@x.wash ington.edu
(replace x with u to respond)
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ONU (Optical Network Unit) is one of the key components for providing high-speed Internet services. Its primary function is to act as an endpoint device located at the user's premises. However, people are often confused as to whether an ONU can Work As a Router. In this blog post, we’ll explore What is ONU, What Is Router, ONU & Router’s main usage, and What is the difference between ONU and Router. Let’s take a closer look ! Part I. Meaning of...
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by: Hystou | last post by:
Most computers default to English, but sometimes we require a different language, especially when relocating. Forgot to request a specific language before your computer shipped? No problem! You can effortlessly switch the default language on Windows 10 without reinstalling. I'll walk you through it. First, let's disable language synchronization. With a Microsoft account, language settings sync across devices. To prevent any complications,...
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jinu1996
by: jinu1996 | last post by:
In today's digital age, having a compelling online presence is paramount for businesses aiming to thrive in a competitive landscape. At the heart of this digital strategy lies an intricately woven tapestry of website design and digital marketing. It's not merely about having a website; it's about crafting an immersive digital experience that captivates audiences and drives business growth. The Art of Business Website Design Your website is...
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tracyyun
by: tracyyun | last post by:
Dear forum friends, With the development of smart home technology, a variety of wireless communication protocols have appeared on the market, such as Zigbee, Z-Wave, Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, etc. Each protocol has its own unique characteristics and advantages, but as a user who is planning to build a smart home system, I am a bit confused by the choice of these technologies. I'm particularly interested in Zigbee because I've heard it does some...
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isladogs
by: isladogs | last post by:
The next Access Europe User Group meeting will be on Wednesday 1 May 2024 starting at 18:00 UK time (6PM UTC+1) and finishing by 19:30 (7.30PM). In this session, we are pleased to welcome a new presenter, Adolph Dupré who will be discussing some powerful techniques for using class modules. He will explain when you may want to use classes instead of User Defined Types (UDT). For example, to manage the data in unbound forms. Adolph will...
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by: TSSRALBI | last post by:
Hello I'm a network technician in training and I need your help. I am currently learning how to create and manage the different types of VPNs and I have a question about LAN-to-LAN VPNs. The last exercise I practiced was to create a LAN-to-LAN VPN between two Pfsense firewalls, by using IPSEC protocols. I succeeded, with both firewalls in the same network. But I'm wondering if it's possible to do the same thing, with 2 Pfsense firewalls...
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by: adsilva | last post by:
A Windows Forms form does not have the event Unload, like VB6. What one acts like?
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muto222
by: muto222 | last post by:
How can i add a mobile payment intergratation into php mysql website.
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bsmnconsultancy
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In today's digital era, a well-designed website is crucial for businesses looking to succeed. Whether you're a small business owner or a large corporation in Toronto, having a strong online presence can significantly impact your brand's success. BSMN Consultancy, a leader in Website Development in Toronto offers valuable insights into creating effective websites that not only look great but also perform exceptionally well. In this comprehensive...

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