admin: can this disgusting stuff be deleted?

[Brad Kunkel]

<de********@wk. shawcable.net> wrote in message
news:5IOjc.2784 13$Pk3.274338@p d7tw1no...

Short avi clip of me fucking a goat. Enjoy

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[lurban]

I agree wholeheartedly.

Luckily it only appears in one of the newgroups to which I am subscribed but
clearly it is the product of a perverted mind and doesn't bear any remote
relevance to the groups to which it is posted. Also this type of posting seems
to have become more prevalent lately.

On a positive front, my newreader allows me to just delete these posts and I
will not even see any follow-up posts, if there are any.

Lyle

On Wed, 28 Apr 2004 10:42:23 -0600, "Brad Kunkel"
<bk************ *****@ibisoftwa re.com> wrote:

<de********@wk .shawcable.net> wrote in message
news:5IOjc.278 413$Pk3.274338@ pd7tw1no...

Short avi clip of me fucking a goat. Enjoy

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[lurban]

I agree wholeheartedly.

Luckily it only appears in one of the newgroups to which I am subscribed but
clearly it is the product of a perverted mind and doesn't bear any remote
relevance to the groups to which it is posted. Also this type of posting seems
to have become more prevalent lately.

On a positive front, my newreader allows me to just delete these posts and I
will not even see any follow-up posts, if there are any.

Lyle

On Wed, 28 Apr 2004 10:42:23 -0600, "Brad Kunkel"
<bk************ *****@ibisoftwa re.com> wrote:

<de********@wk .shawcable.net> wrote in message
news:5IOjc.278 413$Pk3.274338@ pd7tw1no...

Short avi clip of me fucking a goat. Enjoy

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[Andrew Hamm]

lu****@nowhere. zz wrote:

I agree wholeheartedly.

Sorry buddy, but you (or the other guy) probably just responded to a troll.

This troll is a combination of trying to get people into a website, and also
to "pretend" to be a concerned citizen, in the hope of sparking a
cross-posted threat that will probably degenerate into a flame war sooner or
later.

Just don't answer messages like this, and learn to recognise the fakes that
are also a troll. I'm ashamed to be responding, but the only REAL weapon
against trolls is to ignore them; but that requires everyone to know when
they should stay away from the Reply button.

One of my other favourite newsgroups has just been torn to shreds by a few
trolls working together. It also affected a number of other completely
unrelated newsgroups that were cross-posted to. The thing that destroyed all
the newsgroups was the counter-arguments and angry responses which flooded
them all, multiplied in a chain reaction and completely drowned out the real
content of all the groups involved. Within a week, virtually all normal
postings to the group had ceased. Taking a troll message or a fake message
troll seriously is a very dangerous thing.

Just Don't Get Involved (except *maybe* to try to calm down and educate
other people who post troll-victim responses - shrug, I don't know if this
message will work)

[lurban]

Perhaps you are the troll, BUDDY.

Strangely, Brad has posted to these groups before on a technical/help basis, his
website is active, and he is actually the owner and admin for his domain name.
You, on the other hand, are totally new to any of the newsgroups that I
subscribe to.
On Thu, 29 Apr 2004 13:48:09 +1000, "Andrew Hamm" <ah***@mail.com > wrote:

lu****@nowhere .zz wrote:

I agree wholeheartedly.

Sorry buddy, but you (or the other guy) probably just responded to a troll.

This troll is a combination of trying to get people into a website, and also
to "pretend" to be a concerned citizen, in the hope of sparking a
cross-posted threat that will probably degenerate into a flame war sooner or
later.

Just don't answer messages like this, and learn to recognise the fakes that
are also a troll. I'm ashamed to be responding, but the only REAL weapon
against trolls is to ignore them; but that requires everyone to know when
they should stay away from the Reply button.

One of my other favourite newsgroups has just been torn to shreds by a few
trolls working together. It also affected a number of other completely
unrelated newsgroups that were cross-posted to. The thing that destroyed all
the newsgroups was the counter-arguments and angry responses which flooded
them all, multiplied in a chain reaction and completely drowned out the real
content of all the groups involved. Within a week, virtually all normal
postings to the group had ceased. Taking a troll message or a fake message
troll seriously is a very dangerous thing.

Just Don't Get Involved (except *maybe* to try to calm down and educate
other people who post troll-victim responses - shrug, I don't know if this
message will work)

[Andrew Hamm]

lu****@nowhere. zz wrote:

I agree wholeheartedly.

Sorry buddy, but you (or the other guy) probably just responded to a troll.

This troll is a combination of trying to get people into a website, and also
to "pretend" to be a concerned citizen, in the hope of sparking a
cross-posted threat that will probably degenerate into a flame war sooner or
later.

Just don't answer messages like this, and learn to recognise the fakes that
are also a troll. I'm ashamed to be responding, but the only REAL weapon
against trolls is to ignore them; but that requires everyone to know when
they should stay away from the Reply button.

One of my other favourite newsgroups has just been torn to shreds by a few
trolls working together. It also affected a number of other completely
unrelated newsgroups that were cross-posted to. The thing that destroyed all
the newsgroups was the counter-arguments and angry responses which flooded
them all, multiplied in a chain reaction and completely drowned out the real
content of all the groups involved. Within a week, virtually all normal
postings to the group had ceased. Taking a troll message or a fake message
troll seriously is a very dangerous thing.

Just Don't Get Involved (except *maybe* to try to calm down and educate
other people who post troll-victim responses - shrug, I don't know if this
message will work)

[Andrew Hamm]

lu****@nowhere. zz wrote:

Perhaps you are the troll, BUDDY.

Strangely, Brad has posted to these groups before on a technical/help
basis, his website is active, and he is actually the owner and admin
for his domain name. You, on the other hand, are totally new to any
of the newsgroups that I subscribe to.

Welcome from comp.databases. informix then. I was thinkin about adding my
source ng, but that was after I clicked the send. I just found out recently
that I'm in the top 10 all-time posters in c.d.i, and almost half of my
postings are even thoughtful (I like to believe). One day soonish i might
get started in a db2 group (IBM buyout of Informix and all that) but less
likely to join the others as far as I can see my future.

Maybe this nice guy Brad got sucked in then. I know we both have - fom the
evidence. I recently got that message a few times through other sources. I
don't pay attention of course so I can't recognise it's entire format.

I'm so ****** off at the damage to my other-mentioned favourite ng that I'm
imagining spilling the blood of trolls and spammers this week. But netnews
has absolutely no security beyond the goodwill of the participants, and that
is clearly way too optimistic for this sorry world.

Let's not justify the trolls existence any more. Sorry I got involved.
Pleased to meet you Lurban, Brad and everyone else out there who is
thoughtful enough not to get involved - apologies to you. I think all the
database groups should get together on a regular basis for beer and bbq, but
everyone would have to promise not to start shouting at each other :-)

Kirk out.
Beam me up Scotty.

[lurban]

Perhaps you are the troll, BUDDY.

Strangely, Brad has posted to these groups before on a technical/help basis, his
website is active, and he is actually the owner and admin for his domain name.
You, on the other hand, are totally new to any of the newsgroups that I
subscribe to.
On Thu, 29 Apr 2004 13:48:09 +1000, "Andrew Hamm" <ah***@mail.com > wrote:

lu****@nowhere .zz wrote:

I agree wholeheartedly.

Sorry buddy, but you (or the other guy) probably just responded to a troll.

This troll is a combination of trying to get people into a website, and also
to "pretend" to be a concerned citizen, in the hope of sparking a
cross-posted threat that will probably degenerate into a flame war sooner or
later.

Just don't answer messages like this, and learn to recognise the fakes that
are also a troll. I'm ashamed to be responding, but the only REAL weapon
against trolls is to ignore them; but that requires everyone to know when
they should stay away from the Reply button.

One of my other favourite newsgroups has just been torn to shreds by a few
trolls working together. It also affected a number of other completely
unrelated newsgroups that were cross-posted to. The thing that destroyed all
the newsgroups was the counter-arguments and angry responses which flooded
them all, multiplied in a chain reaction and completely drowned out the real
content of all the groups involved. Within a week, virtually all normal
postings to the group had ceased. Taking a troll message or a fake message
troll seriously is a very dangerous thing.

Just Don't Get Involved (except *maybe* to try to calm down and educate
other people who post troll-victim responses - shrug, I don't know if this
message will work)

[Andrew Hamm]

lu****@nowhere. zz wrote:

Perhaps you are the troll, BUDDY.

Strangely, Brad has posted to these groups before on a technical/help
basis, his website is active, and he is actually the owner and admin
for his domain name. You, on the other hand, are totally new to any
of the newsgroups that I subscribe to.

Welcome from comp.databases. informix then. I was thinkin about adding my
source ng, but that was after I clicked the send. I just found out recently
that I'm in the top 10 all-time posters in c.d.i, and almost half of my
postings are even thoughtful (I like to believe). One day soonish i might
get started in a db2 group (IBM buyout of Informix and all that) but less
likely to join the others as far as I can see my future.

Maybe this nice guy Brad got sucked in then. I know we both have - fom the
evidence. I recently got that message a few times through other sources. I
don't pay attention of course so I can't recognise it's entire format.

I'm so ****** off at the damage to my other-mentioned favourite ng that I'm
imagining spilling the blood of trolls and spammers this week. But netnews
has absolutely no security beyond the goodwill of the participants, and that
is clearly way too optimistic for this sorry world.

Let's not justify the trolls existence any more. Sorry I got involved.
Pleased to meet you Lurban, Brad and everyone else out there who is
thoughtful enough not to get involved - apologies to you. I think all the
database groups should get together on a regular basis for beer and bbq, but
everyone would have to promise not to start shouting at each other :-)

Kirk out.
Beam me up Scotty.

[Brad Kunkel]

"Andrew Hamm" <ah***@mail.com > wrote in message
news:c6******** ****@ID-79573.news.uni-berlin.de...

lu****@nowhere. zz wrote:

I agree wholeheartedly.
Sorry buddy, but you (or the other guy) probably just responded to a

troll.
This troll is a combination of trying to get people into a website, and also to "pretend" to be a concerned citizen, in the hope of sparking a
cross-posted threat that will probably degenerate into a flame war sooner or later.

Andrew,

I actually read this ng and participate sometimes. I'm not a troll.
Normally, I ignore all the ng spam just like you but this stuff is getting
unacceptable. I don't know the details of how a newsgroup is monitored, but
there must be an administrator somewhere. IMO, that person should delete
this crap soon after it's posted. It's not only disgusting but way off
topic.

For anybody that's interested, a person responded to me personally about my
post and gave me a really good tip on munging an email address. Always
munge the right (domain) side of the address to reduce the load on your
domain's mail server. With a munged domain name the mail server never
receives it.

--
Brad Kunkel
Integrated Business, Inc.