for and arrays

[Bill Cunningham]

I understand this code.

int a[5];
int b;
for (b=0;b<5;b=b+1)
int a[b];

This should take every element of the array a and set it to 1,2,3,4,5.
Great. Now for the big question. How would you work this?

int a [5][3];

And make the first element of 5 all zeros and the second element of 3 equal
to 1,2,3 ? I don't know how to work with a 2 dimensional array.

Bill

[Bill Cunningham]

Much Thanks.

Bill

[Barry Schwarz]

On Fri, 1 Aug 2008 03:48:54 -0700 (PDT), soscpd <so****@gmail.com>
wrote:

snip

>
#include <stdio.h>
#include <stdlib.h>

#define MAX_LOOP 7

int main(void)
{
int i;

for(i=0;i<MAX_LOOP;i++)
{
if(i==MAX_LOOP)

You have some reason to believe this if can ever evaluate to true?

{
printf("%i\n",i);
return EXIT_SUCCESS;
}
printf("%i ",i);
}
return EXIT_FAILURE;
}

--
Remove del for email

[Keith Thompson]

"Bill Cunningham" <no****@nspam.comwrites:

"Nigel" <ni***********@gmail.comwrote in message
news:c0**********************************@k37g2000 hsf.googlegroups.com...

Bill, the first parameter in printf is a string. Every character in it
will be printed unless it is an escape sequence or a format
placeholder (i.e. %i, which is for printing an integer). So, the %i is
not being printed, it will print i (the second argument) as an
integer. As for \t, that is a escape sequence which stands for the TAB
character.

Will the = be printed ? I understand the first parameter passed to
printf is a string. But I keep thinking that everything in quotes is
printed except what begins with %.

Bill:

I have said this at least twice before. I will say it again. Please
do not ignore it this time.

Usually, when you post here, quoted material is correctly attributed
and preceded with the usual "" prefix. Sometimes, such as in the
article to which I'm now replying, quoted material is not visibly
distinguished from new material, which makes it difficult to figure
out who said what.

Whatever you did when you posted that followup, please *stop doing
it*.

--
Keith Thompson (The_Other_Keith) ks***@mib.org <http://www.ghoti.net/~kst>
Nokia
"We must do something. This is something. Therefore, we must do this."
-- Antony Jay and Jonathan Lynn, "Yes Minister"

[Richard Heathfield]

santosh said:

vi******@gmail.com wrote:

<snip>

>Mabden is a troll... please don't reply to him (and other trolls)

Okay, I'll take your word for it, since these are the first posts to
this group by 'Mabden' that I'm noticing.

You're fairly new, though, right?

He's been around before.

--
Richard Heathfield <http://www.cpax.org.uk>
Email: -http://www. +rjh@
Google users: <http://www.cpax.org.uk/prg/writings/googly.php>
"Usenet is a strange place" - dmr 29 July 1999

[Default User]

Keith Thompson wrote:

"Bill Cunningham" <no****@nspam.comwrites:

I have said this at least twice before. I will say it again. Please
do not ignore it this time.

Usually, when you post here, quoted material is correctly attributed
and preceded with the usual "" prefix. Sometimes, such as in the
article to which I'm now replying, quoted material is not visibly
distinguished from new material, which makes it difficult to figure
out who said what.

That's the Google Groups/Outlook Express tag-team nonsense. Nigel's
post from GG has the header line:

Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

OE has a problem with that, and quotes don't come out right. An easy
way for most to fix this (short of dumping OE) is to download and
install OE Quotefix. I say easy for most, but we are talking about Bill
here.


Brian

[santosh]

Richard Heathfield wrote:

santosh said:

>vi******@gmail.com wrote:

<snip>

>>Mabden is a troll... please don't reply to him (and other trolls)

Okay, I'll take your word for it, since these are the first posts to
this group by 'Mabden' that I'm noticing.

You're fairly new, though, right?

By Usenet standards, yes. It's about five years now since I discovered
this group and about three since I started posting here.

He's been around before.

Must have been absent for at least a few years, or I'd have remembered
the nick.

[Bill Cunningham]

"Mark L Pappin" <ml*@acm.orgwrote in message
news:87************@Don-John.Messina...

But those people won't be me. I'm tired of dealing with you, Bill,
and I've decided that my sanity is worth more to me than your
amusement.

mlp

It takes a very patient man Mark to deal with me. I don't think this
"amusing" but a predestend end. I'm glad we got to question 4.

Bill

[Bill Cunningham]

"Mark L Pappin" <ml*@acm.orgwrote in message
news:87************@Don-John.Messina...

But those people won't be me. I'm tired of dealing with you, Bill,
and I've decided that my sanity is worth more to me than your
amusement.

mlp

I should've told you at the start you would have to be an "LD" teacher.

Bill

[soscpd]

Hello Barry, List

On Aug 1, 2:05 pm, Barry Schwarz <[e-mail]:

if(i==MAX_LOOP)

You have some reason to believe this if can ever evaluate to true?

You're right. Sorry about that, I didn't test the code. Here is the
fix :

if(i==(MAX_LOOP-1))

Rafael

[Keith Thompson]

"Default User" <de***********@yahoo.comwrites:

Keith Thompson wrote:

>"Bill Cunningham" <no****@nspam.comwrites:
I have said this at least twice before. I will say it again. Please
do not ignore it this time.

Usually, when you post here, quoted material is correctly attributed
and preceded with the usual "" prefix. Sometimes, such as in the
article to which I'm now replying, quoted material is not visibly
distinguished from new material, which makes it difficult to figure
out who said what.

That's the Google Groups/Outlook Express tag-team nonsense. Nigel's
post from GG has the header line:

Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

OE has a problem with that, and quotes don't come out right. An easy
way for most to fix this (short of dumping OE) is to download and
install OE Quotefix. I say easy for most, but we are talking about Bill
here.

But *most* of Bill's posts have correct quoting. If he can figure out
what he's dogin differently for the posts where it's messed up, and
stop doing that, he should be ok (I think).

--
Keith Thompson (The_Other_Keith) ks***@mib.org <http://www.ghoti.net/~kst>
Nokia
"We must do something. This is something. Therefore, we must do this."
-- Antony Jay and Jonathan Lynn, "Yes Minister"

[Bill Cunningham]

"Richard" <rg****@gmail.comwrote in message
news:g6**********@registered.motzarella.org...

The sherry is supposed to go in the trifle Bill, not down your gullet.

??

[Bill Cunningham]

"Richard" <rg****@gmail.comwrote in message
news:g6**********@registered.motzarella.org...

But 10 out of 10 for a wonderful stage act - it's bordering on the
beautiful at this stage. Listening to Santosh apologising to you had me
spilling my tea over some notes on my desk. You even managed to goad "Mr
Topic" Keith into discussing msgids and usenet posting headers!

LOL.

Classic stuff.

Go away Richard.

>

[Default User]

Keith Thompson wrote:

"Default User" <de***********@yahoo.comwrites:

That's the Google Groups/Outlook Express tag-team nonsense. Nigel's
post from GG has the header line:

Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

OE has a problem with that, and quotes don't come out right. An easy
way for most to fix this (short of dumping OE) is to download and
install OE Quotefix. I say easy for most, but we are talking about
Bill here.

But most of Bill's posts have correct quoting. If he can figure out
what he's dogin differently for the posts where it's messed up, and
stop doing that, he should be ok (I think).

Did you actually read what I posted? It's only responses to some Google
Groups posts that have the problem. Also, Bill's not doing anything, OE
is. And more importantly, there's nothing an OE user can do about it
other than install Quotefix.


Brian

[Bill Cunningham]

"Richard" <rg****@gmail.comwrote in message
news:g6**********@registered.motzarella.org...

The sherry is supposed to go in the trifle Bill, not down your gullet.

But 10 out of 10 for a wonderful stage act - it's bordering on the
beautiful at this stage. Listening to Santosh apologising to you had me
spilling my tea over some notes on my desk. You even managed to goad "Mr
Topic" Keith into discussing msgids and usenet posting headers!

LOL.

Classic stuff.

This tutorial thing was a bad idea I had a gut feeling. We've also
gotten way off topic. So get back on topic. If you don't have anything
productive to say about C or anyone I don't want to hear it.

Bill
Bill

[Bill Cunningham]

"santosh" <sa*********@gmail.comwrote in message
news:g6**********@aioe.org...

Similarly:

printf("%d %d %d", a, b, c);

Answer these questions concerning the above statement:

1.) How many arguments have we supplied to printf here? How did you
derive this answer?

2.) Identify the first argument. What's it called?

3.) Looking at the first argument alone, can you tell if printf will
expect further arguments? If so, how many? How did you determine this,
explain your reasoning?

1. 4
2. string literal
3. Yes 4 and they are integers.
That's just the way printf works to my knowledge.

Bill

[Keith Thompson]

"Default User" <de***********@yahoo.comwrites:

Keith Thompson wrote:

>"Default User" <de***********@yahoo.comwrites:

That's the Google Groups/Outlook Express tag-team nonsense. Nigel's
post from GG has the header line:

Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

OE has a problem with that, and quotes don't come out right. An easy
way for most to fix this (short of dumping OE) is to download and
install OE Quotefix. I say easy for most, but we are talking about
Bill here.

But most of Bill's posts have correct quoting. If he can figure out
what he's dogin differently for the posts where it's messed up, and
stop doing that, he should be ok (I think).

Did you actually read what I posted?

Not closely enough, apparently. Sorry for adding noise.

It's only responses to some Google
Groups posts that have the problem. Also, Bill's not doing anything, OE
is. And more importantly, there's nothing an OE user can do about it
other than install Quotefix.

--
Keith Thompson (The_Other_Keith) ks***@mib.org <http://www.ghoti.net/~kst>
Nokia
"We must do something. This is something. Therefore, we must do this."
-- Antony Jay and Jonathan Lynn, "Yes Minister"

[Default User]

Keith Thompson wrote:

"Default User" <de***********@yahoo.comwrites:

Did you actually read what I posted?

Not closely enough, apparently. Sorry for adding noise.

That's ok. I'm grouchy this afternoon. It's going to be a hot weekend
here (and not in a good way).


Brian

[Bill Cunningham]

"Keith Thompson" <ks***@mib.orgwrote in message
news:ln************@nuthaus.mib.org...

Bill:

I have said this at least twice before. I will say it again. Please
do not ignore it this time.

Usually, when you post here, quoted material is correctly attributed
and preceded with the usual "" prefix. Sometimes, such as in the
article to which I'm now replying, quoted material is not visibly
distinguished from new material, which makes it difficult to figure
out who said what.

Whatever you did when you posted that followup, please *stop doing
it*.

I do this manually Keith. I have tried quote fix and it doesn't post
right. I am not ignoring you I must be messing up somehow. I really get
confused with quotes by others in quotes of others. Then there are all these
names and I don't cut any of them it that case. I am not trying to offend
anyone or make things difficult I'm just doing the best I can and it's been
doing pretty well most of the time.

Bill

[Antoninus Twink]

On 1 Aug 2008 at 22:35, Default User wrote:

I'm grouchy this afternoon.

Fascinating.

I mean, that must really set it apart from all the other afternoons of
the year - write it down for a permanent record, on August 1st 2008
Default Loser was grouchy.

It's going to be a hot weekend here (and not in a good way).

Diddums.

Hint: Usenet is not your personal blog. You're so damn quick to shout
off-topic at others, and yet you insist on boring the pants off us
whining about the dull minutiae of your pathetic life.

Here's hoping your A/C breaks down for the weekend.

[CBFalconer]

Mabden wrote:

>

.... snip ...

>
I have been very stubborn on issues in this group, over and over
again, and patience and consideration have helped me, And made me
a nicer poster (not that THAT will last ;))

Use of uncouth language will rapidly get you plonked. Control it.

--
[mail]: Chuck F (cbfalconer at maineline dot net)
[page]: <http://cbfalconer.home.att.net>
Try the download section.
** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **

[CBFalconer]

Mabden wrote:

"CBFalconer" <cb********@yahoo.comwrote in message

>Bill Cunningham wrote:

>>"Keith Thompson" <ks***@mib.orgwrote:

<OT>Try "indent -kr".</OT>

What's -kr do Keith ?

Read the docs that came with it.

What about the rest of us. I'm not loading that program, I have
no help file. Now I want to know! Don't be an info-hog.

Who said anything about loading the program? Just look in the zip,
gz, tar file that the beast arrives in. You will find man or info
files (which are text). It's a gnu program, so there is lots of
documentation available.

The -kr makes it act basically like the format style used in
K&RII. Which is the only one that makes fundamental sense.

--
[mail]: Chuck F (cbfalconer at maineline dot net)
[page]: <http://cbfalconer.home.att.net>
Try the download section.
** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **

[Keith Thompson]

"Bill Cunningham" <no****@nspam.comwrites:

"Keith Thompson" <ks***@mib.orgwrote in message
news:ln************@nuthaus.mib.org...

>Bill:

I have said this at least twice before. I will say it again. Please
do not ignore it this time.

Usually, when you post here, quoted material is correctly attributed
and preceded with the usual "" prefix. Sometimes, such as in the
article to which I'm now replying, quoted material is not visibly
distinguished from new material, which makes it difficult to figure
out who said what.

Whatever you did when you posted that followup, please *stop doing
it*.

I do this manually Keith. I have tried quote fix and it doesn't post
right. I am not ignoring you I must be messing up somehow. I really get
confused with quotes by others in quotes of others. Then there are all these
names and I don't cut any of them it that case. I am not trying to offend
anyone or make things difficult I'm just doing the best I can and it's been
doing pretty well most of the time.

As Default User pointed out, the problem seems to occur when you reply
to posts from Google Groups; it's not something you're doing.
Quotefix *should* fix the problem, but I lack any expertise on the
matter.

--
Keith Thompson (The_Other_Keith) ks***@mib.org <http://www.ghoti.net/~kst>
Nokia
"We must do something. This is something. Therefore, we must do this."
-- Antony Jay and Jonathan Lynn, "Yes Minister"

[Richard Heathfield]

CBFalconer said:

<snip>

The -kr makes[indent] act basically like the format style used in
K&RII. Which is the only one that makes fundamental sense.

#include <styleflame.h>

The fact that you cannot see the sense in other layout styles does not
imply that other people cannot see the sense in those styles.

--
Richard Heathfield <http://www.cpax.org.uk>
Email: -http://www. +rjh@
Google users: <http://www.cpax.org.uk/prg/writings/googly.php>
"Usenet is a strange place" - dmr 29 July 1999

[santosh]

Bill Cunningham wrote:

santosh wrote:

>Similarly:

printf("%d %d %d", a, b, c);

Answer these questions concerning the above statement:

1.) How many arguments have we supplied to printf here? How did you
derive this answer?

2.) Identify the first argument. What's it called?

3.) Looking at the first argument alone, can you tell if printf will
expect further arguments? If so, how many? How did you determine
this, explain your reasoning?

1. 4

You didn't attempt to answer the second part of question 1. I
specifically added that because you previously demonstrated that you
did not understand how multiple arguments to a function are separated.

2. string literal

Close enough. Printf actually expects the first argument to be of type
const char*, and this needn't be from a string literal. For example the
following is a perfectly fine invocation of printf:

const char *message = "hello world!\n";
printf(message);

It is equivalent to:

printf("hello world!\n");

3. Yes 4 and they are integers.

Wrong. The answer is three and the expected type is int not integer.

That's just the way printf works to my knowledge.

Your reasoning needs to be precise when programming. Guessing and
estimating won't get you anywhere for long.

[santosh]

Bill Cunningham wrote:

>
"Mark L Pappin" <ml*@acm.orgwrote in message
news:87************@Don-John.Messina...

>But those people won't be me. I'm tired of dealing with you, Bill,
and I've decided that my sanity is worth more to me than your
amusement.

mlp

It takes a very patient man Mark to deal with me. I don't think
this "amusing" but a predestend end.

Now if only you'd think that not learning C is also a "predestend" end
for you...

<snip>

[Richard]

"Default User" <de***********@yahoo.comwrites:

Keith Thompson wrote:

>"Default User" <de***********@yahoo.comwrites:

Did you actually read what I posted?

Not closely enough, apparently. Sorry for adding noise.

That's ok. I'm grouchy this afternoon. It's going to be a hot weekend
here (and not in a good way).


Brian

But good to see you add some value for a change : in this case a good
laugh at you and Keith having a cat fight!

You must be more of a meddling bore than Chuck at the moment with all
your posts about how to post.

[Bill Cunningham]

"santosh" <sa*********@gmail.comwrote in message
news:g7**********@registered.motzarella.org...

> It takes a very patient man Mark to deal with me. I don't think
this "amusing" but a predestend end.

Now if only you'd think that not learning C is also a "predestend" end
for you...

I might have to teach myself. And it might take years. But I'll learn
some kind of workable C.

Bill

[Richard]

Richard Heathfield <rj*@see.sig.invalidwrites:

santosh said:

>Mabden wrote:

>>"CBFalconer" <cb********@yahoo.comwrote in message
news:48***************@yahoo.com...
Bill Cunningham wrote:
"Keith Thompson" <ks***@mib.orgwrote:

<OT>Try "indent -kr".</OT>

What's -kr do Keith ?

Read the docs that came with it.

What about the rest of us. I'm not loading that program, I have no
help file. Now I want to know! Don't be an info-hog.

<rest snipped>

That response by CBFalconer was, I'm pretty sure, specifically tailored
for Bill Cunningham, who has a habit of repeatedly asking trivial
questions even after they have been answered multiple times, and not
bothering to consult his system documentation.

Besides usage of 'indent' is not topical here. It may be topical in
gnu.misc.discuss or gnu.utils.help (if it is GNU indent) or
comp.unix.misc or comp.programming.

What's more, it's pretty easy to *guess* what -kr would do, isn't it? For
example, I didn't know, but I guessed, and then I looked it up, and I
discovered that my guess was correct.

Rocket science, it isn't.

No and obvious it isn't either. "kr" means nothing to people who do not
have copies of K&R under their pillow. Streuth. Do you ever stop to
listen to yourself? You're as bad as religious morons who assumes
everyone must love the same God as them.

[Richard]

Richard Heathfield <rj*@see.sig.invalidwrites:

santosh said:

>vi******@gmail.com wrote:

<snip>

>>Mabden is a troll... please don't reply to him (and other trolls)

Okay, I'll take your word for it, since these are the first posts to
this group by 'Mabden' that I'm noticing.

You're fairly new, though, right?

Hi mightyness hasn't noticed poor Santosh scrabbling around trying to
earn his stripes. He's been here for a good few years. More than enough.

[vippstar]

On Aug 2, 8:05 pm, "Bill Cunningham" <[e-mail]:

"santosh" <[e-mail] in message

news:g7**********@registered.motzarella.org...

It takes a very patient man Mark to deal with me. I don't think
this "amusing" but a predestend end.

Now if only you'd think that not learning C is also a "predestend" end
for you...

I might have to teach myself. And it might take years. But I'll learn
some kind of workable C.

No, you won't :)

[Serve Lau]

<vi******@gmail.comschreef in bericht
news:36**********************************@27g2000h sf.googlegroups.com...

On Aug 2, 8:05 pm, "Bill Cunningham" <[e-mail]:

>"santosh" <[e-mail] in message

news:g7**********@registered.motzarella.org...

> It takes a very patient man Mark to deal with me. I don't think
this "amusing" but a predestend end.

Now if only you'd think that not learning C is also a "predestend" end
for you...

I might have to teach myself. And it might take years. But I'll learn
some kind of workable C.

No, you won't :)

He can do it!

[David Thompson]

On Tue, 29 Jul 2008 08:21:33 +0530, santosh <sa*********@gmail.com>
wrote:

It's my personal opinion that Bill C has become a sort of collective
obsession of CLC. I'm pretty sure he is a troll. Anyone who genuinely
has the sort of problems that he seems to display would have given up
on programming long back, or would be well advised to do so. <snip>

I agree the person he seems to be would be well advised not to pursue
this, but that doesn't mean he will. Sadly, our world contains quite a
lot of people who demonstrably, documentedly, do silly things.

The classic definition of trolling is to deliberately provoke _others_
to fight, and I've never seen BC do that. The classic definition of
crankery is to persistently repeat and defend false usually absurd
positions, especially after a delay, and I've not seen that either.

Even under a weakened 'New Age' definition of trolling of merely
inviting (and presumably seeking) attention to oneself, I wouldn't say
he has sought _significantly_ more (say +2 sigma) than many newbies.
I personally still think him honest but hopeless.

Of course having said all this I have simply concluded that he is a
troll. The presence of the string

Message-ID: <P56jk.199$JH5.174@trnddc06>

in his headers leads me believe he is having a good laugh at the
spectacle of a whole group running around him.

That has nothing to do with 'trn' as you speculate downthread.
trnddc## have been the (pseudo?)domains for msgids assigned
(defaulted) by Verizon servers for at least 5 years; and all his other
headers are consistent with that on the sample of messages I still
have in store. I'm pretty sure I would have those domains on my
postings if Forte Agent didn't by default generate xx**@4ax.com .
As a test I will try to set Agent to not generate a msgid for this
posting, although I've never done it before and may fail.

- formerly david.thompson1 || achar(64) || worldnet.att.net

[Flash Gordon]

David Thompson wrote, On 11/08/08 06:02:

On Tue, 29 Jul 2008 08:21:33 +0530, santosh <sa*********@gmail.com>
wrote:

>It's my personal opinion that Bill C has become a sort of collective
obsession of CLC. I'm pretty sure he is a troll. Anyone who genuinely
has the sort of problems that he seems to display would have given up
on programming long back, or would be well advised to do so. <snip>

<snip>

I personally still think him honest but hopeless.

I'm not convinced he is a troll either. However, I'm not convinced it is
worth the effort of helping him and will generally do a mark-read on any
thread where I see a significant number of posts by him.

>Of course having said all this I have simply concluded that he is a
troll. The presence of the string

Message-ID: <P56jk.199$JH5.174@trnddc06>

in his headers leads me believe he is having a good laugh at the
spectacle of a whole group running around him.

That has nothing to do with 'trn' as you speculate downthread.
trnddc## have been the (pseudo?)domains for msgids assigned
(defaulted) by Verizon servers for at least 5 years; and all his other
headers are consistent with that on the sample of messages I still
have in store. I'm pretty sure I would have those domains on my
postings if Forte Agent didn't by default generate xx**@4ax.com .
As a test I will try to set Agent to not generate a msgid for this
posting, although I've never done it before and may fail.

You succeeded and your message ID was indeed ...@trnddc##
--
Flash Gordon