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Why is it dangerous?

'evening.

I'm not new to C and have been programming in it since I was 8 but
here's a strange problem I've never seen before.

When I compile a program from our C course with a windows compiler
there is no problem but when I try to compile it with a linux compiler
it complains that

a_03.c:(.text+0 x4d): warning: the `gets' function is dangerous
and should not be used.

Is linux more dangerous than windows? Where can I download a
non dangerous gets function? I have never used gets before is
there undefined behavior somewhere?
Here is a trimmed down example program from my assignment that
demonstrates the problem

#include <stdio.h>
#include <malloc.h>

void main()
{
char *string;
printf("enter string (max 2000 chars): ");
fflush(stdin);
fflush(stdout);
string = (char *)malloc(2001);
if(!string) exit(1);
gets(string);
printf("you entered: %s\n", string);
free(string);
exit(0);
}

On windows with TurboC and Lcc no error is printed. On linux with
gcc it says gets is dangerous.

Please advise my instructor says gcc is overly pedantic.
Aug 10 '08
233 8725
In article <sl************ *******@nospam. invalid>,
Antoninus Twink <no****@nospam. invalidwrote:
>On 16 Aug 2008 at 21:47, ke**********@gm ail.com wrote:
>>This study found that, using the data between 1995-1999 in a country
where back seat belts were not mandatory (in this case the data
came from Japan), the front seat passenger's death rate
increase by more than 75% if back seat was not wearing a seat belt.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15094416

You've completely missed the point.
Of course. This is clc. What did you expect?
>I'm not arguing for a second that having all occupants of a car wear
seatbelts isn't an extremely efficacious safety measure that anyone with
half a brain cell would insist upon when they were driving.
I'm geninely confused by this. I don't think most American cars have
back seat seatbelts. I may just be out of touch with modern trends.
>The question was whether the state should *force* people to avoid taking
the risk.
This gets into politics and life views. I'm a little surprised to see
it being discussed here. But let me just say that the idea that the
world *should* be made as safe as possible - and that government is the
tool that should be employed to bring this about - does have a lot of
appeal. Like "int main()", it is kinda hard to argue against it.
>If I go abseiling and trust my life to someone I know to be drunk or
What is "abseiling" ? A typo?

Aug 17 '08 #201
On Aug 17, 7:02*am, "Serve Lau" <ni...@qinqin.c omwrote:
>
This study found that, using the data between 1995-1999...

you're assuming that accidents are always frontal which they arent. Most of
the time people try to steer away or are hit by a car from the side who was
trying to steer away. crash test dummies dont do that.
I did not assume anything. The statistics takes into account
the different types of collision and their relative occurrence
frequency.

Fact is, two separate studies (one says 80%, the other says 75%)
the front seat passenger dies 80% (or 75%) more likely when
the rear passenger isn't buckeled in. And that's with all
types of collisions considered, in an entire country,
with rural and urban and short trips and long trips all combined.

Aug 17 '08 #202
On Aug 17, 8:07*am, Antoninus Twink <nos...@nospam. invalidwrote:
>
On 16 Aug 2008 at 21:47, kenny.rio...@gm ail.com wrote:
This study found that, using the data between 1995-1999 in a country
where back seat belts were not mandatory (in this case the data
came from Japan), the front seat passenger's death rate
increase by more than 75% if back seat was not wearing a seat belt.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15094416

You've completely missed the point.
No, *you* missed the point. Someone pointed this possibility to you.
You said "has this really happened?" and you asked for "citation".
So here is the citation. Now you say it's pointless. What's it gonna
be?
>
I'm not arguing for a second that having all occupants of a car wear
seatbelts isn't an extremely efficacious safety measure that anyone with
half a brain cell would insist upon when they were driving.

The question was whether the state should *force* people
to avoid taking the risk.
Argue with your congressman then (if you're in Canada, UK, Japan,
or some of the select US states), or just be happy (if you live
elsewhere)
Aug 17 '08 #203

"Joachim Schmitz" <no*********@sc hmitz-digital.dewrote in message
news:g8******** **@online.de...
Antoninus Twink wrote:
>On 16 Aug 2008 at 21:47, ke**********@gm ail.com wrote:
>>>This study found that, using the data between 1995-1999 in a country
where back seat belts were not mandatory (in this case the data
came from Japan), the front seat passenger's death rate
increase by more than 75% if back seat was not wearing a seat belt.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15094416

You've completely missed the point.

I'm not arguing for a second that having all occupants of a car wear
seatbelts isn't an extremely efficacious safety measure that anyone
with half a brain cell would insist upon when they were driving.

The question was whether the state should *force* people to avoid
taking the risk.

If I go abseiling and trust my life to someone I know to be drunk or
incompetent, should that be illegal? If I choose to drive allowing the
person in the seat behind me not to wear a seatbelt, should that be
illegal?

Committing suizide _is_ illegal. The attempt gets punished.
The dead body gets locked up forever.

Aug 17 '08 #204
On 17 Aug 2008 at 13:14, Kenny McCormack wrote:
Antoninus Twink <no****@nospam. invalidwrote:
>>The question was whether the state should *force* people to avoid taking
the risk.

But let me just say that the idea that the world *should* be made as
safe as possible - and that government is the tool that should be
employed to bring this about - does have a lot of appeal. Like "int
main()", it is kinda hard to argue against it.
Well, not really. The state shouldn't ban something just because it's
dangerous. The state should trust people to make their own judgment
about what level of personal risk they want to take, insofar as it
doesn't seriously affect others. It's just the difference between a
liberal society and a totalitarian one.
>>If I go abseiling and trust my life to someone I know to be drunk or

What is "abseiling" ? A typo?
I don't think so?

Aug 17 '08 #205
On 17 Aug 2008 at 13:30, ke**********@gm ail.com wrote:
No, *you* missed the point. Someone pointed this possibility to you.
You said "has this really happened?" and you asked for "citation".
So here is the citation. Now you say it's pointless. What's it gonna
be?
Oops, yes, sorry. It's relevant to that, you're right.
>The question was whether the state should *force* people
to avoid taking the risk.

Argue with your congressman then (if you're in Canada, UK, Japan,
or some of the select US states), or just be happy (if you live
elsewhere)
Unfortunately, once a freedom has been removed from the individual by
the state, history shows that it's very hard indeed to get the state to
give it back.

Aug 17 '08 #206
In article <sl************ *******@nospam. invalid>,
Antoninus Twink <no****@nospam. invalidwrote:
>On 17 Aug 2008 at 13:14, Kenny McCormack wrote:
>Antoninus Twink <no****@nospam. invalidwrote:
>>>The question was whether the state should *force* people to avoid taking
the risk.

But let me just say that the idea that the world *should* be made as
safe as possible - and that government is the tool that should be
employed to bring this about - does have a lot of appeal. Like "int
main()", it is kinda hard to argue against it.

Well, not really. The state shouldn't ban something just because it's
dangerous. The state should trust people to make their own judgment
about what level of personal risk they want to take, insofar as it
doesn't seriously affect others. It's just the difference between a
liberal society and a totalitarian one.
I don't doubt that you (quite sensibly) believe that (and I'm not saying
I agree or disagree). But I'm saying that the alternative view (the one
described above - i.e., that the world *should* be idiot-proofed) is a
reasonable one to hold - and one that many do hold.

Just like the view that one should not cast the return value of malloc().

Heh - I think I've just run out of clc-valid analogies...
>>>If I go abseiling and trust my life to someone I know to be drunk or

What is "abseiling" ? A typo?

I don't think so?
Then what is it?

Aug 17 '08 #207
On 17 Aug 2008 at 17:54, Kenny McCormack wrote:
Antoninus Twink <no****@nospam. invalidwrote:
>>On 17 Aug 2008 at 13:14, Kenny McCormack wrote:
>>What is "abseiling" ? A typo?

I don't think so?

Then what is it?
$ dict abseil
1 definition found

From WordNet (r) 2.0 [wn]:

abseil
n : a descent down a nearly vertical surface by using a doubled
rope that is coiled around the body and attached to some
higher point
v : lower oneself with a double rope coiled around the body from
a mountainside; "The ascent was easy--roping down the
mountain would be much more difficult and dangerous";
"You have to learn how to abseil when you want to do
technical climbing" [syn: {rappel}, {rope down}]

Aug 17 '08 #208
Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
"Joachim Schmitz" <no*********@sc hmitz-digital.dewrote in message
news:g8******** **@online.de...
>Antoninus Twink wrote:
>>On 16 Aug 2008 at 21:47, ke**********@gm ail.com wrote:
This study found that, using the data between 1995-1999 in a
country where back seat belts were not mandatory (in this case
the data came from Japan), the front seat passenger's death rate
increase by more than 75% if back seat was not wearing a seat
belt. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15094416

You've completely missed the point.

I'm not arguing for a second that having all occupants of a car wear
seatbelts isn't an extremely efficacious safety measure that anyone
with half a brain cell would insist upon when they were driving.

The question was whether the state should *force* people to avoid
taking the risk.

If I go abseiling and trust my life to someone I know to be drunk or
incompetent , should that be illegal? If I choose to drive allowing
the person in the seat behind me not to wear a seatbelt, should
that be illegal?

Committing suizide _is_ illegal. The attempt gets punished.

The dead body gets locked up forever.
8-). I said: "the attempt gets punished", of course I meant "the failed
attempt gets punished"

Bye, Jojo
Aug 17 '08 #209
Antoninus Twink wrote:
On 17 Aug 2008 at 17:54, Kenny McCormack wrote:
>Antoninus Twink <no****@nospam. invalidwrote:
>>On 17 Aug 2008 at 13:14, Kenny McCormack wrote:
What is "abseiling" ? A typo?

I don't think so?

Then what is it?

$ dict abseil
1 definition found

From WordNet (r) 2.0 [wn]:

abseil
n : a descent down a nearly vertical surface by using a doubled
rope that is coiled around the body and attached to some
higher point
v : lower oneself with a double rope coiled around the body from
a mountainside; "The ascent was easy--roping down the
mountain would be much more difficult and dangerous";
"You have to learn how to abseil when you want to do
technical climbing" [syn: {rappel}, {rope down}]
Apparently lend from the German language, in which it does have exactly the
same meaning and even spelling.

Bye, Jojo
Aug 17 '08 #210

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